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by Ann Collins-2
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Re: Shared Bathroom Issue
by Robertson Zoe (Barnsley Hospital NHS Foundation Trust)
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Hi
This may be a very simplistic solution and also may not work but would a PIR/pressure mat triggered prompt do the job. I was thinking that if, when you enter the bathroom a prompt is triggered which reminds you to
shut the door, this could be a reasonably simple solution. Then once the door is shut either an automatic locking mechanism or some kind of external indication that the bathroom is in use could be triggered. It would mainly depend on whether a prompt would
be sufficient to trigger the independent users to shut the door.
Thanks
Zoe
From: A discussion list for Assistive Technology professionals. [ASSISTECH@...] On Behalf Of Ann Collins [ann.collins@...] Sent: 29 May 2009 12:28 To: ASSISTECH@... Subject: Shared Bathroom Issue Dear All
I am working on the renovation of a respite service for people with learning disabilities in North Somerset.
Two of the bedrooms share a bathroom so we need to find a solution which will mean that if one person is accessing the bathroom it will prevent the person in the other room from entering.
The scheme will accommodate a number of people who will access the bathroom independently and others who will always have support to do this.
Where people can access the bathroom independently we can not guarantee that they will understand that they need to shut the door in order to activate or release a locking mechanism.
The doors can not be automated as there will be a ceiling hoist put in place.
PIR use might not be possible as the hoist may be picked up as movement in the bathroom.
I would really appreciate any help with this and am more than happy to provide any additional information that you might need.
Thanks very much
Ann Collins
Assistive Technology Project Manager
0117 9528 212
07776 456 755
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Re: Shared Bathroom Issue
by Jeremy Linskell
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Hi Ann I’m not sure that a simple solution will deal with this because you have too many possible states to manage with simple cause and effect
solutions; and even if you can augment these with user judgement/interaction there are probably issues associated with the choice/setup of cueing signals, given the client group. I’m not quite sure why the hoist prevents the use of door openers, as these can be installed with safety stop sensors. But in any case
I would suggest that the solution might involve standard, passive door closers, with joint management of both electric/electronic locks. But as I inferred, this would probably require some logic to manage it in conjunction with whatever sensors were chosen;
off the top of my head … both locks cannot be unlocked at the same and the last door closed has to be the next one unlocked? Regards Jeremy Jeremy Linskell CEng, CSci, MIPEM Principal Clinical Scientist Electronic Assistive Technology Service NHS Tayside tel: 01382-496286 fax:01382-496322 From:
Dear All I am working on the renovation of a respite service for people with learning disabilities in
Two of the bedrooms share a bathroom so we need to find a solution which will mean that if one person is accessing the bathroom it will prevent the person in
the other room from entering. The scheme will accommodate a number of people who will access the bathroom independently and others who will always have support to do this.
Where people can access the bathroom independently we can not guarantee that they will understand that they need to shut the door in order to activate or release
a locking mechanism. The doors can not be automated as there will be a ceiling hoist put in place. PIR use might not be possible as the hoist may be picked up as movement in the bathroom. I would really appreciate any help with this and am more than happy to provide any additional information that you might need. Thanks very much Ann Collins Assistive Technology Project Manager 0117 9528 212 07776 456 755
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Re: Shared Bathroom Issue
by Jeremy Linskell
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Hi Ann Did you manage to get to a solution for this bathroom quandary? Cheers Jeremy Jeremy Linskell CEng, CSci, MIPEM Principal Clinical Scientist Electronic Assistive Technology Service NHS Tayside tel: 01382-496286 fax:01382-496322 From:
Dear All I am working on the renovation of a respite service for people with learning disabilities in
Two of the bedrooms share a bathroom so we need to find a solution which will mean that if one person is accessing the bathroom it will prevent the person in
the other room from entering. The scheme will accommodate a number of people who will access the bathroom independently and others who will always have support to do this.
Where people can access the bathroom independently we can not guarantee that they will understand that they need to shut the door in order to activate or release
a locking mechanism. The doors can not be automated as there will be a ceiling hoist put in place. PIR use might not be possible as the hoist may be picked up as movement in the bathroom. I would really appreciate any help with this and am more than happy to provide any additional information that you might need. Thanks very much Ann Collins Assistive Technology Project Manager 0117 9528 212 07776 456 755
******************************************************************************************************************** This message may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient please inform the sender that you have received the message in error before deleting it. Please do not disclose, copy or distribute information in this e-mail or take any action in reliance on its contents: to do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Thank you for your co-operation. NHSmail is the secure email and directory service available for all NHS staff in England and Scotland NHSmail is approved for exchanging patient data and other sensitive information with NHSmail and GSI recipients NHSmail provides an email address for your career in the NHS and can be accessed anywhere For more information and to find out how you can switch, visit www.connectingforhealth.nhs.uk/nhsmail ******************************************************************************************************************** [Linskell, Jeremy.vcf] BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Linskell;Jeremy FN:Linskell, Jeremy ORG:NHS Tayside TITLE:Principal Clinical Scientist TEL;WORK;VOICE:01382-496286 ADR;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:;;EAT Service=0D=0ATORT Centre=0D=0ANinewells Hospital;Dundee;;DD1 9SY;Unite= d Kingdom LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:EAT Service=0D=0ATORT Centre=0D=0ANinewells Hospital=0D=0ADundee DD1 9SY=0D= =0AUnited Kingdom EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:jeremy.linskell@... REV:20090203T142137Z END:VCARD |
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