Sil3512 (sii, SATA) driver on Sun Ultra60/blade 1000

[Robert Johannes]

Hi Mav,
I have been referred to you by Marius regarding the sii (Silicon Image)
ata driver on sparc64.  The card I have is a two-port SATA card with the
Sil3512 chipset.

You have perhaps seen some of my communication to the freebsd-sparc list
earlier, but briefly, here's the problem I have had with it.

UNDER REL_ENG 7:

I have had a silicon image Sil 3512 in the ultra 60, and attached two disk
drives.  The drives are seen by the ata driver.  I was able to lay a ufs
file system on them, and even copied files onto the drives, but the system
was not stable. I.e, I would copy files to the sata hard drives for a few
minutes before it would hang and remain that way till I did a hard reset
(power-off).  Usually there would be some message about the device
detaching from the system, and the /dev/ad* entries disappear.

I then take the Sil 3512 out of the ultra60 and put it in the Sun blade
1000, and attach the disk drives; upon booting, the drives are not seen by
the ata driver, although the controller is seen.  Remember, the drives are
seen with the same card in the ultra60.

REBUILD TO 8.0 BETA on the Sun Blade 1000:

After I upgraded the Sun blade 1000 to 8.0 BETA, the ata driver could now
see the disk attached to the Sil3512 controller, but the behaviour remains
pretty much like on the Ultra60 under 7 stable if I put any i/o on the
disks.

I have worked with Marius to get the ata-marvell driver sane for
big-endian sparc64, and that driver now works on the Sun blade 1000 under
8.0 BETA.  Before Marius fixed that driver, it was exhibiting the same
behaviour as the Sil3512 under 8.0 Beta; i.e, the controller is seen, but
no drives are seen, and the system wouldn't even finish booting if disks
were attached to the controller.

Is it possible to for  you to take a look at the Sil ata driver again
in-light of this information?

Thanks,

Robert
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[Alexander Motin-3]

Hi.

R J wrote:

> I have been referred to you by Marius regarding the sii (Silicon Image)
> ata driver on sparc64.  The card I have is a two-port SATA card with the
> Sil3512 chipset.
>
> You have perhaps seen some of my communication to the freebsd-sparc list
> earlier, but briefly, here's the problem I have had with it.
>
> UNDER REL_ENG 7:
>
> I have had a silicon image Sil 3512 in the ultra 60, and attached two
> disk drives.  The drives are seen by the ata driver.  I was able to lay
> a ufs file system on them, and even copied files onto the drives, but
> the system was not stable. I.e, I would copy files to the sata hard
> drives for a few minutes before it would hang and remain that way till I
> did a hard reset (power-off).  Usually there would be some message about
> the device detaching from the system, and the /dev/ad* entries disappear.
>
> I then take the Sil 3512 out of the ultra60 and put it in the Sun blade
> 1000, and attach the disk drives; upon booting, the drives are not seen
> by the ata driver, although the controller is seen.  Remember, the
> drives are seen with the same card in the ultra60.
>
> REBUILD TO 8.0 BETA on the Sun Blade 1000:
>
> After I upgraded the Sun blade 1000 to 8.0 BETA, the ata driver could
> now see the disk attached to the Sil3512 controller, but the behaviour
> remains pretty much like on the Ultra60 under 7 stable if I put any i/o
> on the disks.
>
> I have worked with Marius to get the ata-marvell driver sane for
> big-endian sparc64, and that driver now works on the Sun blade 1000
> under 8.0 BETA.  Before Marius fixed that driver, it was exhibiting the
> same behaviour as the Sil3512 under 8.0 Beta; i.e, the controller is
> seen, but no drives are seen, and the system wouldn't even finish
> booting if disks were attached to the controller.
>
> Is it possible to for  you to take a look at the Sil ata driver again
> in-light of this information?

I have only tested SiI3114 chip from this family and only on i386/amd64.
It worked fine for me. Unfortunately, I have neither Sil3512 controller
nor sparc64 hardware for testing. Driver mentions about some errata for
this chip, but I am not aware about it and have no card to test it.

Have you tried newer SiI3124/3132 cards family with new siis(4) or old
ata(4) driver?

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[Robert Johannes]

> Have you tried newer SiI3124/3132 cards family with new siis(4) or old
> ata(4) driver?


I have tried the Sil3124, but not with the new siis driver.  I tried it
with the ata driver;  I had the card with 4 ports, and when I tried it
with ata, it was exhibiting the same behaviour as the Sil3512 card in the
ultra 60.

But the Sil3124 card died, and not sure how that happened.  I still have
it, but the system doesn't see it atall.

How can I help?  I am willing to do testing utilizing the Sil3512 that I
have, and if I can get a hold of a working Sil3124, I can test with that
too.  I could probably provide remote access to a sparc64 box for testing,
but I will have to check on that.

Let me know how I can help.

Thanks,

Robert


On Thu, 24 Sep 2009, Alexander Motin wrote:

> Hi.
>
> R J wrote:
>> I have been referred to you by Marius regarding the sii (Silicon Image)
>> ata driver on sparc64.  The card I have is a two-port SATA card with the
>> Sil3512 chipset.
>>
>> You have perhaps seen some of my communication to the freebsd-sparc list
>> earlier, but briefly, here's the problem I have had with it.
>>
>> UNDER REL_ENG 7:
>>
>> I have had a silicon image Sil 3512 in the ultra 60, and attached two
>> disk drives.  The drives are seen by the ata driver.  I was able to lay
>> a ufs file system on them, and even copied files onto the drives, but
>> the system was not stable. I.e, I would copy files to the sata hard
>> drives for a few minutes before it would hang and remain that way till I
>> did a hard reset (power-off).  Usually there would be some message about
>> the device detaching from the system, and the /dev/ad* entries disappear.
>>
>> I then take the Sil 3512 out of the ultra60 and put it in the Sun blade
>> 1000, and attach the disk drives; upon booting, the drives are not seen
>> by the ata driver, although the controller is seen.  Remember, the
>> drives are seen with the same card in the ultra60.
>>
>> REBUILD TO 8.0 BETA on the Sun Blade 1000:
>>
>> After I upgraded the Sun blade 1000 to 8.0 BETA, the ata driver could
>> now see the disk attached to the Sil3512 controller, but the behaviour
>> remains pretty much like on the Ultra60 under 7 stable if I put any i/o
>> on the disks.
>>
>> I have worked with Marius to get the ata-marvell driver sane for
>> big-endian sparc64, and that driver now works on the Sun blade 1000
>> under 8.0 BETA.  Before Marius fixed that driver, it was exhibiting the
>> same behaviour as the Sil3512 under 8.0 Beta; i.e, the controller is
>> seen, but no drives are seen, and the system wouldn't even finish
>> booting if disks were attached to the controller.
>>
>> Is it possible to for  you to take a look at the Sil ata driver again
>> in-light of this information?
>
> I have only tested SiI3114 chip from this family and only on i386/amd64.
> It worked fine for me. Unfortunately, I have neither Sil3512 controller
> nor sparc64 hardware for testing. Driver mentions about some errata for
> this chip, but I am not aware about it and have no card to test it.
>
> Have you tried newer SiI3124/3132 cards family with new siis(4) or old
> ata(4) driver?
>
> --
> Alexander Motin
>
>

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[Alexander Motin-3]

R J wrote:

>
>> Have you tried newer SiI3124/3132 cards family with new siis(4) or old
>> ata(4) driver?
>
> I have tried the Sil3124, but not with the new siis driver.  I tried it
> with the ata driver;  I had the card with 4 ports, and when I tried it
> with ata, it was exhibiting the same behaviour as the Sil3512 card in
> the ultra 60.
>
> But the Sil3124 card died, and not sure how that happened.  I still have
> it, but the system doesn't see it atall.
>
> How can I help?  I am willing to do testing utilizing the Sil3512 that I
> have, and if I can get a hold of a working Sil3124, I can test with that
> too.  I could probably provide remote access to a sparc64 box for
> testing, but I will have to check on that.
>
> Let me know how I can help.

It would be nice to have some big-endian system for testing.

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[Boris Kochergin]

Alexander Motin wrote:

> R J wrote:
>  
>>> Have you tried newer SiI3124/3132 cards family with new siis(4) or old
>>> ata(4) driver?
>>>      
>> I have tried the Sil3124, but not with the new siis driver.  I tried it
>> with the ata driver;  I had the card with 4 ports, and when I tried it
>> with ata, it was exhibiting the same behaviour as the Sil3512 card in
>> the ultra 60.
>>
>> But the Sil3124 card died, and not sure how that happened.  I still have
>> it, but the system doesn't see it atall.
>>
>> How can I help?  I am willing to do testing utilizing the Sil3512 that I
>> have, and if I can get a hold of a working Sil3124, I can test with that
>> too.  I could probably provide remote access to a sparc64 box for
>> testing, but I will have to check on that.
>>
>> Let me know how I can help.
>>    
>
> It would be nice to have some big-endian system for testing.
>
>  

I can definitely provide remote access to a sparc64 machine. The ones I
have are PCI, though. Hopefully there are PCI variants of the hardware
you're testing.

-Boris
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[Alexander Motin-3]

spawk wrote:

> Alexander Motin wrote:
>> R J wrote:
>>  
>>>> Have you tried newer SiI3124/3132 cards family with new siis(4) or old
>>>> ata(4) driver?
>>>>      
>>> I have tried the Sil3124, but not with the new siis driver.  I tried it
>>> with the ata driver;  I had the card with 4 ports, and when I tried it
>>> with ata, it was exhibiting the same behaviour as the Sil3512 card in
>>> the ultra 60.
>>>
>>> But the Sil3124 card died, and not sure how that happened.  I still have
>>> it, but the system doesn't see it atall.
>>>
>>> How can I help?  I am willing to do testing utilizing the Sil3512 that I
>>> have, and if I can get a hold of a working Sil3124, I can test with that
>>> too.  I could probably provide remote access to a sparc64 box for
>>> testing, but I will have to check on that.
>>>
>>> Let me know how I can help.
>>>    
>>
>> It would be nice to have some big-endian system for testing.
>>
>>  
> I can definitely provide remote access to a sparc64 machine. The ones I
> have are PCI, though. Hopefully there are PCI variants of the hardware
> you're testing.

Most of newer hardware is PCIe. But SiI3124 is PCI-X and earlier
SiI3112/3114 are PCI ones (first is more interesting, as it uses new
driver and more functional). Also it would be good to check generic PCI
ATA controller, if there is some on-board.

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[Robert Johannes]

Boris,
We are talking about PCI sata controllers working in a sparc64 system.
The cards in particular,  Sil3512 and Sil3124 are PCI cards.

Alex, would remote access to a sparc64 be enough for you test on?  We
could do some coordinations ofcourse.

Robert

On Thu, 1 Oct 2009, spawk wrote:

> Alexander Motin wrote:
>> R J wrote:
>>
>>>> Have you tried newer SiI3124/3132 cards family with new siis(4) or old
>>>> ata(4) driver?
>>>>
>>> I have tried the Sil3124, but not with the new siis driver.  I tried it
>>> with the ata driver;  I had the card with 4 ports, and when I tried it
>>> with ata, it was exhibiting the same behaviour as the Sil3512 card in
>>> the ultra 60.
>>>
>>> But the Sil3124 card died, and not sure how that happened.  I still have
>>> it, but the system doesn't see it atall.
>>>
>>> How can I help?  I am willing to do testing utilizing the Sil3512 that I
>>> have, and if I can get a hold of a working Sil3124, I can test with that
>>> too.  I could probably provide remote access to a sparc64 box for
>>> testing, but I will have to check on that.
>>>
>>> Let me know how I can help.
>>>
>>
>> It would be nice to have some big-endian system for testing.
>>
>>
> I can definitely provide remote access to a sparc64 machine. The ones I have
> are PCI, though. Hopefully there are PCI variants of the hardware you're
> testing.
>
> -Boris
>
>

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