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[Tony Marston]

"Still Learnin'" <ssskibeh@...> wrote in message
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> Tony Marston wrote:
>
>> I have no respect for anyone who wastes time in trying to force others to
>> obey their petty rules.
>
> ...
>> The whole point about this particlar rule is that it has no purpose other
>> than to force everybody to conform to somebody's idea of perfection.
>
> You've been told more than twice, it isn't an arbitrary rule. It isn't
> a petty rule. It isn't about perfection.

It is arbitrary. It is petty. It is about someone's idea of perfection.

> It's about clarity. So that the threaded archives are intelligible
> instead of jumbled. So that the post-by-post emails properly read from
> top to bottom.

That's why other newsgroups allow top posting because the response in each
post is at the top, where the newsreader starts, so you don't have to scroll
over the text of the previous post to get to the important stuff.

If a thread contained 30 posts would you really want the text of all 30
contained in the same message? How difficult would it be to separate one
message from another?

> It's also about courtesy, not dropping dingleberries dozens or scores
> of lines long (and some of you others could stand to snip the extraneous
> even though you do properly bottom-post).

So what are the rules about snipping then?

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> Like has been said: if you don't play by the playground rules, don't
> be surprised if the other kids don't want to play with you.
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[Mike Potter-2]

Tony Marston wrote:

>> You've been told more than twice, it isn't an arbitrary rule. It isn't
>> a petty rule. It isn't about perfection.
>
> It is arbitrary. It is petty. It is about someone's idea of perfection.

One of us clearly manifests a reality gap. How many people do you
have siding with your position, on this list?

>> It's about clarity. So that the threaded archives are intelligible
>> instead of jumbled. So that the post-by-post emails properly read from
>> top to bottom.
>
> That's why other newsgroups allow top posting because the response in each
> post is at the top, where the newsreader starts, so you don't have to scroll
> over the text of the previous post to get to the important stuff.

This is not a newsgroup. It is an email list that archives emails
on the php.net web site, and has a newsgroup subscribed.

> If a thread contained 30 posts would you really want the text of all 30
> contained in the same message? How difficult would it be to separate one
> message from another?

What broken program (or script) puts the text of 30 posts into the
same post? You seem to be grasping at straws.

>> It's also about courtesy, not dropping dingleberries dozens or scores
>> of lines long (and some of you others could stand to snip the extraneous
>> even though you do properly bottom-post).
>
> So what are the rules about snipping then?

You're the 30-year professional, figure them out. I'm Still Learnin'

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[Tony Marston]

        My sincerest apologies.  I have been a complete jackass this entire
time and every single one of you has been correct.  From this point
forward I vow to keep my God damned mouth shut unless spoken to.

        You see, I have been struggling with defining my sexual identity
and trying to come to terms with my preference toward glittery and
sparkly shoes.  Unfortunately my choice of stockings does not bode
well for this preference.  But I will be damned if the rules of
fashion will dictate what does and does not go well together.

        So I am off to fight a different and winnable battle.

        I love you all so very much.


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[Phpster]

On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Tony
Marston<tony@...> wrote:
>
>
>        My sincerest apologies.  I have been a complete jackass this entire
> time and every single one of you has been correct.  From this point
> forward I vow to keep my God damned mouth shut unless spoken to.
>
>        You see, I have been struggling with defining my sexual identity
> and trying to come to terms with my preference toward glittery and
> sparkly shoes.  Unfortunately my choice of stockings does not bode

Fishnet??

> well for this preference.  But I will be damned if the rules of
> fashion will dictate what does and does not go well together.
>
>        So I am off to fight a different and winnable battle.
>
>        I love you all so very much.
>
>
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[tedd-2]

At 9:03 PM +0100 7/9/09, Ashley Sheridan wrote:
>Also, I'd hardly call anyone here a jumped-up pipsqueak just because we aren't
>too old to go by new rules. The only reason I'm bringing your age into this
>is because you keep mentioning your last "30 years" online on mailing lists.
>There are older members than you on the list, and yet they find no problem
>following the rules that make this list easy for everyone to use.
>
>--
>Thanks,
>Ash


So someone played the age card and that woke me up...

Let's see -- the last 30 years on mailing lists?

Okay I remember the last 30 years, I had here just a second ago.

Ahhh, there they are -- 30 years would have taken it back to 1979,
right? Subtract the nine, carry the one, three from ten -- yep 1979.

In 1979, I was attending MSU working on my Masters when Magic Johnson
lead the MSU team to the AACP championship, or something of that
nature. Forgive me, I don't follow baseball. I had a classmate ask me
about Magic Johnson and I said that I never saw him preform -- I
thought he was a David Copperfield type.

In any event, I was using an Apple ][ computer to write my thesis and
that was unheard of at that time. In fact, the staff in the thesis
office actually came out and marvelled at my thesis submission in
original manuscript that did not contain any photocopies or even
white-outs. Mine was the first original manuscript thesis ever
submitted at MSU (or so they told me). So, that was before the common
word processor.

Now, do I remember email? No not really. As I understand it, email
came about under ARPANET and converted to the Internet in the early
80's. So unless he has been doing email and participating on
something other than what's known, I would have to say it's a bunch
of bull.

But what do I know -- I'm just an old fart who tries to follow the
rules. Now back to sleep zzzzz.

Cheers,

tedd

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[Daniel Brown-7]

On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 16:55, tedd<tedd.sperling@...> wrote:
>
> Now, do I remember email? No not really. As I understand it, email came
> about under ARPANET and converted to the Internet in the early 80's. So
> unless he has been doing email and participating on something other than
> what's known, I would have to say it's a bunch of bull.

    Actually, in Tony's defense, I don't think he ever said anything
about being on mailing lists or using email for thirty years, only
that he's been involved in computers and programming for that length
of time.  Which, much like yourself, is believable.

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[Daniel Brown-7]

On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 16:47, Bastien Koert<phpster@...> wrote:
>>
>>        My sincerest apologies.  I have been a complete jackass this entire
>> time and every single one of you has been correct.  From this point
>> forward I vow to keep my God damned mouth shut unless spoken to.

    Heh.  Methinks there be trickery afoot, and it's best to ignore
this rather than encourage it.  Better to keep a nice, clean,
above-the-belt fight.

    Pipsqueak out.

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[TS-8]

Hello. I have this code and the getFrame returns a GD truecolor image.

However, I want to convert to imagemagick after I get that frame from
ffmpeg.

Here's my code:

// GRAB A FRAME FROM THE VIDEO FOR A THUMB VIEW
$video = new ffmpeg_movie($data_temp, false);
$frame = $video->getFrame(90); //returns a ffmpeg_frame() object
$frame_full = $frame->toGDImage(); // Returns a truecolor GD image of the
frame.

// Here is where it fails so I'm assuming I need to convert the $frame_full
into something Imagick friendly. Any ideas? Or am I not returning any data
to the frame_full to process?

$frame_full = new Imagick($frame_full);
// get dimensions
$frame_height = $frame_full->getImageHeight();
$frame_width = $frame_full->getImageWidth();


ERROR:

<b>Fatal error</b>:  Uncaught exception 'ImagickException' with message 'Can
not process empty Imagick object' in
/home/httpd/html/domain.com/public_html/upload/albums.php:214
Stack trace:
#0 /home/httpd/html/domain.com/public_html/upload/albums.php(214):
Imagick->getimageheight()
#1 /home/httpd/html/domain.com/public_html/upload/albums.php(26):
upload_content(Object(ADODB_mysql), '58669', '77', 'my videos', 'video')
#2 {main}
  thrown in <b>/home/httpd/html/domain.com/public_html/upload/albums.php</b>
on line <b>214</b><br />


Thanks for any help, T


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[Tony Marston]

This post did not come from me. The headers contain this:
Received: from [74.54.247.2] ([74.54.247.2:59280]
helo=mail.caracol-cream.com)

Very funny.

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""(the fake) Tony Marston"" <tony@...> wrote in message
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>
>
> My sincerest apologies.  I have been a complete jackass this entire
> time and every single one of you has been correct.  From this point
> forward I vow to keep my God damned mouth shut unless spoken to.
>
> You see, I have been struggling with defining my sexual identity
> and trying to come to terms with my preference toward glittery and
> sparkly shoes.  Unfortunately my choice of stockings does not bode
> well for this preference.  But I will be damned if the rules of
> fashion will dictate what does and does not go well together.
>
> So I am off to fight a different and winnable battle.
>
> I love you all so very much.
>

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[Tony Marston]

"Still Learnin'" <ssskibeh@...> wrote in message
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> Tony Marston wrote:
>
>>> You've been told more than twice, it isn't an arbitrary rule. It isn't
>>> a petty rule. It isn't about perfection.
>>
>> It is arbitrary. It is petty. It is about someone's idea of perfection.
>
> One of us clearly manifests a reality gap. How many people do you
> have siding with your position, on this list?
>
>>> It's about clarity. So that the threaded archives are intelligible
>>> instead of jumbled. So that the post-by-post emails properly read from
>>> top to bottom.
>>
>> That's why other newsgroups allow top posting because the response in
>> each post is at the top, where the newsreader starts, so you don't have
>> to scroll over the text of the previous post to get to the important
>> stuff.
>
> This is not a newsgroup. It is an email list that archives emails
> on the php.net web site, and has a newsgroup subscribed.

It *is* a newsgroup because I can access it through my newsreader. I can
recieve copies of posts in my email client, but I can only post using my
newsreader.

>> If a thread contained 30 posts would you really want the text of all 30
>> contained in the same message? How difficult would it be to separate one
>> message from another?
>
> What broken program (or script) puts the text of 30 posts into the
> same post? You seem to be grasping at straws.

When you hit "reply" in your newsreader what happens? It creates a new post
with the original message quoted in its entirety. Some newsreadrs then
posiition the cursor at the  top ready for your reply, while others position
it at the bottom. If this happens 30 times then the last post contains
copies of the all the previous 29 messages.

>>> It's also about courtesy, not dropping dingleberries dozens or scores
>>> of lines long (and some of you others could stand to snip the extraneous
>>> even though you do properly bottom-post).
>>
>> So what are the rules about snipping then?
>
> You're the 30-year professional, figure them out. I'm Still Learnin'

Why should I have to figure it out? Surely some little Hitler has created a
rule so that the rest of us sheep don't have to think for ourselves?

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[Ashley Sheridan-3]

On Thursday 09 July 2009 22:00:14 Daniel Brown wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 16:47, Bastien Koert<phpster@...> wrote:
> >>        My sincerest apologies.  I have been a complete jackass this
> >> entire time and every single one of you has been correct.  From this
> >> point forward I vow to keep my God damned mouth shut unless spoken to.
>
>     Heh.  Methinks there be trickery afoot, and it's best to ignore
> this rather than encourage it.  Better to keep a nice, clean,
> above-the-belt fight.
>
>     Pipsqueak out.
>
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Yeah, I thought so too. The headers don't match with his other emails, but
really it was the apology which gave it away!

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[HallMarc Websites]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: tedd [mailto:tedd.sperling@...]
> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 4:55 PM
> To: php-general@...; ash@...
> Subject: Re: [PHP] Obeying the rules (was Simple login form with
> cookies)
>
> At 9:03 PM +0100 7/9/09, Ashley Sheridan wrote:
> >Also, I'd hardly call anyone here a jumped-up pipsqueak just because
> we aren't
> >too old to go by new rules. The only reason I'm bringing your age into
> this
> >is because you keep mentioning your last "30 years" online on mailing
> lists.
> >There are older members than you on the list, and yet they find no
> problem
> >following the rules that make this list easy for everyone to use.
> >
> >--
> >Thanks,
> >Ash
>
>
> So someone played the age card and that woke me up...
>
> Let's see -- the last 30 years on mailing lists?
>
> Okay I remember the last 30 years, I had here just a second ago.
>
> Ahhh, there they are -- 30 years would have taken it back to 1979,
> right? Subtract the nine, carry the one, three from ten -- yep 1979.
>
> In 1979, I was attending MSU working on my Masters when Magic Johnson
> lead the MSU team to the AACP championship, or something of that
> nature. Forgive me, I don't follow baseball. I had a classmate ask me
> about Magic Johnson and I said that I never saw him preform -- I
> thought he was a David Copperfield type.
>
> In any event, I was using an Apple ][ computer to write my thesis and
> that was unheard of at that time. In fact, the staff in the thesis
> office actually came out and marvelled at my thesis submission in
> original manuscript that did not contain any photocopies or even
> white-outs. Mine was the first original manuscript thesis ever
> submitted at MSU (or so they told me). So, that was before the common
> word processor.
>
> Now, do I remember email? No not really. As I understand it, email
> came about under ARPANET and converted to the Internet in the early
> 80's. So unless he has been doing email and participating on
> something other than what's known, I would have to say it's a bunch
> of bull.
>
> But what do I know -- I'm just an old fart who tries to follow the
> rules. Now back to sleep zzzzz.
>
> Cheers,
>
> tedd
>
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I was whistling and wondering when someone would catch that obvious load of
BS. And I'm running out of popcorn!  


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[PJ-14]

Tony Marston wrote:

> There are too many people in this newsgroup with the idea that you  MUST
> obey the rules, whatever they are, WITHOUT QUESTION. I do not subscribe to
> this notion. I have been working in IT (or DP as it was originally called)
> for over 30 years, and in that time I have worked with many groups, and each
> group has had its own version "the rules" (aka "guidelines" or "standards").
> When moving to a new group the new rules will always be different, and will
> sometimes contradict what you had before. Why is this? Why do some groups
> say "do A instead of B" while others say "do B instead of A"? Does it make a
> difference?
>
> The problem partially lies in the way in which the rules are created. It
> starts with some wise ass saying
> (1) Without rules there will be anarchy, so we must have rules.
> (2) There are no such things as bad rules.
> (3) Do not allow any choices. If there is a choice between A and B then
> choose one as the standard. It doesn't matter which one.
> (4) Everybody must be the same, nobody is allowed to be different.
> (5) The rules must be obeyed without question.
> (6) If a rule causes a problem then you must work around it, you cannot
> change the rule.
>
> Item (5) usually exists because the author of the rule cannot justify its
> existence. He just flipped a coin and it came down tails instead of heads,
> so that's it. Any moron can make rules like this.
>
> Some people just cannot understand that sometimes a rule was created for a
> certain set of circumstances, but if the circumstances change then the rule
> needs changing in order to keep up with the times. Because they do not
> understand why the rule was created in the first place, they do not see that
> it needs changing. They also do not have the intelligence to see how the
> rule might be changed to suit the new circumstances.
>
> I have fought against arbitrary and stupid rules for decades, and I will
> keep fighting till the day I die. If you have a problem with that, then so
> be it.
>
>  

Yea Tony... I'm with you all the way.
but... I think we're fighting a losing battle... I recall some
confrontations with parking rule enforcers - why can't you park in an
area that normally is forbidden but when you park there in a situation
where obviously and with common sense you will not be obstructing anyone
or anything? You can't win that and then we have gone so far boyond such
needless intolerance and stupidity that I can no longer detect our
little planet throught all the muddied rules & regulations.... one
manifestation of utterly stupid and useless law, rule or whatever is the
use of those little stickers on fruits and vegetables... you may know
where the little thing comes from but the ways of contamination are so
multitudinous that tracing the contamination is virtually impossible...
did anyone ever find the person that laced those Tylenol pills so many
years ago? ;-)

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[Arno Kuhl]

I'm sure those who've been on this list a while muttered "here we go
again..." when this thread started. Personally I think if there was a poll
about this the bell curve would have some on the left demanding we all top
post, many on the right of the curve demanding we all bottom post, and a
solid bulge in the middle representing the great unwashed "couldn't give a
damn" folks (and probably "couldn't give a damn" to enter the debate). On
the very few occasions I've had anything to contribute I've generally bottom
posted, mostly because I've seen this debate before and partly because I
think it's easier for some people, but I'd place myself in the middle of the
bell curve. I think most people on this list are more than smart enough to
quickly figure out the thread in a post regardless whether the previous
person top posted or not. Most of the regular responders bottom post which
makes up the bulk, but I think if you look at the variety of people who post
it's about 50/50, and most times it doesn't cause any problem at all. I
agree that rules are important, but some are more important than others, and
I think the top-posting rule is pretty low in the list of priorities, more a
useful guide than a rule. Things like personal attacks and attempted mail
spoofing are more important - both happened during the course of this thread
but hardly raised an eyebrow. I also agree that context plays a big part,
because once a thread starts getting complicated with many responses then
bottom posting definitely makes it easier to follow, but most threads don't
get to that stage. Just my 2c.

Cheers
Arno


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[abdulazeez alugo]

> To: php-general@...
> From: tony@...
> Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 22:37:44 +0100
> Subject: Re: [PHP] Obeying the rules (was Simple login form with cookies)
>
>
> "Still Learnin'" <ssskibeh@...> wrote in message
> news:4A565C73.8090303@......
> > Tony Marston wrote:
> >
> >>> You've been told more than twice, it isn't an arbitrary rule. It isn't
> >>> a petty rule. It isn't about perfection.
> >>
> >> It is arbitrary. It is petty. It is about someone's idea of perfection.
> >
> > One of us clearly manifests a reality gap. How many people do you
> > have siding with your position, on this list?
> >
> >>> It's about clarity. So that the threaded archives are intelligible
> >>> instead of jumbled. So that the post-by-post emails properly read from
> >>> top to bottom.
> >>
> >> That's why other newsgroups allow top posting because the response in
> >> each post is at the top, where the newsreader starts, so you don't have
> >> to scroll over the text of the previous post to get to the important
> >> stuff.
> >
> > This is not a newsgroup. It is an email list that archives emails
> > on the php.net web site, and has a newsgroup subscribed.
>
> It *is* a newsgroup because I can access it through my newsreader. I can
> recieve copies of posts in my email client, but I can only post using my
> newsreader.
>
> >> If a thread contained 30 posts would you really want the text of all 30
> >> contained in the same message? How difficult would it be to separate one
> >> message from another?
> >
> > What broken program (or script) puts the text of 30 posts into the
> > same post? You seem to be grasping at straws.
>
> When you hit "reply" in your newsreader what happens? It creates a new post
> with the original message quoted in its entirety. Some newsreadrs then
> posiition the cursor at the  top ready for your reply, while others position
> it at the bottom. If this happens 30 times then the last post contains
> copies of the all the previous 29 messages.
>
> >>> It's also about courtesy, not dropping dingleberries dozens or scores
> >>> of lines long (and some of you others could stand to snip the extraneous
> >>> even though you do properly bottom-post).
> >>
> >> So what are the rules about snipping then?
> >
> > You're the 30-year professional, figure them out. I'm Still Learnin'
>
> Why should I have to figure it out? Surely some little Hitler has created a
> rule so that the rest of us sheep don't have to think for ourselves?
>
> --
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> http://www.tonymarston.net
> http://www.radicore.org 
>
>

Someone has got to pay for this!!!
How dare you interrupt my 30years vampiric sleep over such trivial issue as top posting?. Now Tony you've been a good lad but this has got to end now! What's all the fuss about you not been able to abide by the rules here? If you can't abide, then simply leave (methinks the person that sent the mail in your name was actually trying to do you a favour).
On the other hand, Daniel, what happened to that button with which you can ban any defauters on the list? is it broken?
Moreover, there seem to be one point that everybody's been missing all the while. since this argument started (or specifically somewhere along the line), Marston actually started following the rules. He has stopped top-posting without him even knowing it. Check his last few replies and you'll see.

The sun is up now so I got to return to my coven.

No more arguments guys.

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