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Small Neo Baroque Organ[Forgive me if this gets sent twice.]
Dear jOrgan users: Here is a project I've been working on, free for your use. Small Neo Baroque Organ, based on a Schlicker instrument, built in the mid 1960's. The jOrgan model has two manuals and pedal. Twenty-one stops. The only additions I made to the Schlicker were a Spitzfloete 4' on the Great. I also added a full transposer. The jOrgan disposition is made to be used with a soundcard. It could be adapted to work with Fluidsynth. The disposition and soundfont are together in a zip file. http://www.geocities.com/pcstratman/organ/organ.html The three demo MP3s have a little crackle in them. -- _______________________________________ Paul C. Stratman pcstratman@... ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ _______________________________________________ jOrgan-user mailing list jOrgan-user@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jorgan-user |
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Re: Small Neo Baroque OrganUnfortunately, Geocities has a limit on how much data can be transferred in an hour.
If you get an error message, try again later. Paul On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 2:00 PM, Paul Stratman <pcstratman@...> wrote:
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Re: Small Neo Baroque OrganHere it is on another server.
http://ftp.pwp.att.net/p/a/pastorstratman/ The disposition was created in jOrgan 3.3
On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 5:16 PM, Paul Stratman <pcstratman@...> wrote:
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Re: Small Neo Baroque Organ
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Re: Small Neo Baroque OrganHi Paul,
Thanks for sharing! I don't get an error message when unzipping the files, but I do get the "no valid disposition file" when trying load the disposition into jOrgan 3.3.2. What version of jOrgan was the disposition created in? GrahamG On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 7:37 AM, Andy & Nola Aston <andynola@...> wrote:
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Re: Small Neo Baroque OrganSince I do not have a soundfont-capable sound card, I had no choice but
to convert Paul's Small Neo-Baroque Organ to Fluidsynth. Both the disposition file AND the soundfont had to be modified. But now it works great! No crack up sounds on my system under Fludisynth! The transposer does not work with Fluidsynth. Possibly Fluidsynth ignores the MIDI Continuous Controller RPN 100/101 and CC 6 sequence used to set "Master Coarse Tuning". As I could not get the bank/patch numbering scheme used in the soundfont and disposition to work with Fluidsynth, I edited the soundfont (with Viena) such that all the presets were designated in bank 0, and all the patch numbers were designated uniquely within bank zero, i.e., bank 00b, patch 00p became bank 000, patch 0bp for each of the presets in the soundfont. Possibly Fluidsynth ignores MIDI CC 0 (bank select) messages. Of course, the corresponding MIDI messages for each Rank in the disposition had to be adjusted accordingly for the modified numbering scheme. Lynn ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Stratman wrote: > Here it is on another server. > > http://ftp.pwp.att.net/p/a/pastorstratman/ > > The disposition was created in jOrgan 3.3 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ _______________________________________________ jOrgan-user mailing list jOrgan-user@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jorgan-user |
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Re: Small Neo Baroque OrganFluidsynth should recognize the different banks. Just change bank 20, 21 and 22 (I don't remember what number I used) to banks 0, 1, and 2.
Glad it works for you. I knew the transposer wouldn't work in Fluidsynth. The tremolo and swell probably need some adjustment in the Fluidsynth conversion. Paul On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 10:04 PM, Lynn Walls <lwalls@...> wrote: Since I do not have a soundfont-capable sound card, I had no choice but -- __________________________________ Pastor Paul C. Stratman St. Stephen's Ev. Lutheran Church (WELS) Beaver Dam, Wisconsin http://www.saintstephen.org pastorstratman@... pcstratman@... ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ _______________________________________________ jOrgan-user mailing list jOrgan-user@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jorgan-user |
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Re: Small Neo Baroque OrganYou're probably wondering why I have "PEDAL TRANSPOSE" as a coupler. My pedalboard is homemade, using a cheap eKeys 37 keyboard, with an old pedalboard wired to the eKeys contacts. "PEDAL TRANSPOSE" makes the adjustment so I don't have to transpose each stop and pedal coupler. For those with more modern pedalboards, set the coupler to "0".
I also use a Behringer FCB1010 foot controller, and three M-Audio keyboards. I'm sure everyone has to make adjustments to make someone elses disposition work on their system. Paul.
On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 10:26 PM, Paul Stratman <pcstratman@...> wrote:
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Re: Small Neo Baroque OrganHm, the disposition works fine here.
Could someone please send me the contents of the debug log after receiving the "no valid disposition" message? (Menu->View->Debug) Sven
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Re: Small Neo Baroque OrganYes...the Swell, for sure, needs adjustment. Moving the Swell controller
from full closed to full open barely makes any difference in the sound level. I haven't worked with the Tremolo. But I did turn it on once while I was testing and thought to myself that I wasn't really sure if it was on or not! I did not know for sure whether Fluidsynth responded to bank-select CC0 commands, so I simply put everything on bank 0. I didn't userstand how your disposition's bank settings (CC0: 10, 11, 12) were being mapped to a soundfont whose presets were designated for banks 0, 1, and 2. But since Fluidsynth was not making any sound with your as-distributed disposition and soundfont configuration, I simply took the expeditious way out and converted everything to bank 0 -- which I understood. Lynn ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Fluidsynth should recognize the different banks. Just change bank 20, 21 > and > 22 (I don't remember what number I used) to banks 0, 1, and 2. > > Glad it works for you. > > I knew the transposer wouldn't work in Fluidsynth. The tremolo and swell > probably need some adjustment in the Fluidsynth conversion. > > Paul > > On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 10:04 PM, Lynn Walls <lwalls@...> wrote: > >> Since I do not have a soundfont-capable sound card, I had no choice but >> to convert Paul's Small Neo-Baroque Organ to Fluidsynth. Both the >> disposition file AND the soundfont had to be modified. But now it works >> great! No crack up sounds on my system under Fludisynth! The transposer >> does not work with Fluidsynth. Possibly Fluidsynth ignores the MIDI >> Continuous Controller RPN 100/101 and CC 6 sequence used to set "Master >> Coarse Tuning". >> >> As I could not get the bank/patch numbering scheme used in the soundfont >> and disposition to work with Fluidsynth, I edited the soundfont (with >> Viena) such that all the presets were designated in bank 0, and all the >> patch numbers were designated uniquely within bank zero, i.e., >> bank 00b, patch 00p became bank 000, patch 0bp >> for each of the presets in the soundfont. Possibly Fluidsynth ignores >> MIDI CC 0 (bank select) messages. >> >> Of course, the corresponding MIDI messages for each Rank in the >> disposition had to be adjusted accordingly for the modified numbering >> scheme. >> >> >> Lynn >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Paul Stratman wrote: >> > Here it is on another server. >> > >> > http://ftp.pwp.att.net/p/a/pastorstratman/ >> > >> > The disposition was created in jOrgan 3.3 >> > >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's >> challenge >> Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great >> prizes >> Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the >> world >> http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ >> _______________________________________________ >> jOrgan-user mailing list >> jOrgan-user@... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jorgan-user >> > > > > -- > __________________________________ > Pastor Paul C. Stratman > St. Stephen's Ev. Lutheran Church (WELS) > Beaver Dam, Wisconsin > http://www.saintstephen.org > pastorstratman@... > pcstratman@... > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's > challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great > prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the > world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/_______________________________________________ > jOrgan-user mailing list > jOrgan-user@... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jorgan-user > -- "The dangerous tendency to join the herd begins in adolescence with respect for fashion, and continues through adulthood with respect for political correctness." ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ _______________________________________________ jOrgan-user mailing list jOrgan-user@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jorgan-user |
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Re: Small Neo Baroque OrganHi all,
For a simple tremulant using the fluidsynth extension and bank 0 remove all the SoundBlaster MIDI messages and add Engaged set 176 set 1 set 20 Disengaged set 176 set 1 set 0 Changing the 'set 20' will adjust the tremulant rate... GrahamG ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ _______________________________________________ jOrgan-user mailing list jOrgan-user@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jorgan-user |
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Re: Small Neo Baroque OrganPaul Stratman wrote:
> Fluidsynth should recognize the different banks. Just change bank 20, > 21 and 22 (I don't remember what number I used) to banks 0, 1, and 2. > > Glad it works for you. > > I knew the transposer wouldn't work in Fluidsynth. The tremolo and > swell probably need some adjustment in the Fluidsynth conversion. Hello Paul, Thanks for this info on the use of banks in FluidSynth, and for releasing the Small Neo Baroque Organ soundfont in the first place. The ranks synthesized with KlangSynth are surprisingly resemblant of real pipe sounds. Your disposition loaded ok using jOrgan 3.4 beta 1. I adapted it to use FluidSynth, requiring the above configuration setup. Since the modern skin i have here does not have a swell style, i modified it by borrowing this from the theater skin. It only requires to cut and paste the portion between -<style> <name>swell</name> and <style> from the .xml file of the theater skin into that of the modern skin, to add the corresponding .png files (swell0.png to swell9.png) to the ones already in the modern skin and to compress everything into a .zip file. The result is a swell style element that matches rather well with the overall look of the modern skin. If of any use, the modified modern skin and the disposition file configured for FluidSynth use can be emailed to anybody needing it, or if you prefer it added to your download server. If of interest, just let me know how i can best get it to you. Thanks again for the nice soundfont and best regards. Erik. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ _______________________________________________ jOrgan-user mailing list jOrgan-user@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jorgan-user All the best,
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Re: Small Neo Baroque OrganNew demo MP3s in stereo with no crackle.
Updated page, too. Note the informal "Terms of use." http://ftp.pwp.att.net/p/a/pastorstratman/ P. S. Erik, why don't you e-mail me the new skin, and I'll put it up. (I'll work on getting pictures of the Schlicker to Graham for an authentic graphic skin sometime in the future!) Paul On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Erik De Schrijver <erikds@...> wrote:
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Re: Small Neo Baroque OrganOn my system the "set 20" controls the trem DEPTH --- not the rate. I
haven't found a way to change the trem RATE with MIDI commands. Lynn --------------------------------------------------------- GrahamG wrote: > For a simple tremulant using the fluidsynth extension and bank 0 > remove all the SoundBlaster MIDI messages and add > Engaged set 176 set 1 set 20 > Disengaged set 176 set 1 set 0 > > Changing the 'set 20' will adjust the tremulant rate... ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ _______________________________________________ jOrgan-user mailing list jOrgan-user@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jorgan-user |
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Re: Small Neo Baroque OrganIn looking more closely at Paul's disposition, I noticed that he used the
PERIOD (.) character as the text for a "Label" element. I'm sure this was done in order to have at least one very small character as the text value in order to prevent jOrgan from inserting its default text value of "Label". What he really wanted, I'm sure, was something invisible. But the normal space character will not work. It is just ignored. This reminded me that there is a "Special" key sequence that generates a "hard space" value in text, so that you don't have to actually use a visible character like the period (.). Does anyone recall what this hard-space key entry sequence is? (I know it is something like ctrl-alt-space or ctrl-shift-space or the like...but it is hard to find in any of the meagre documentation.) I tried to find it in Bruce Miles' excellent jOrgan documentation, but his web site is all messed up right now. CLW ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ _______________________________________________ jOrgan-user mailing list jOrgan-user@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jorgan-user |
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Re: Small Neo Baroque OrganAFAIK, the only way to do it is to edit the Vibrato LFO in the soundfont
itself. I don't know of a way of doing it from within jOrgan (with a softsynth) Graham H. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Walls" <lwalls@...> To: <jorgan-user@...> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 11:42 PM Subject: Re: [jOrgan-user] Small Neo Baroque Organ > On my system the "set 20" controls the trem DEPTH --- not the rate. I > haven't found a way to change the trem RATE with MIDI commands. > > Lynn > --------------------------------------------------------- > > > GrahamG wrote: >> For a simple tremulant using the fluidsynth extension and bank 0 >> remove all the SoundBlaster MIDI messages and add >> Engaged set 176 set 1 set 20 >> Disengaged set 176 set 1 set 0 >> >> Changing the 'set 20' will adjust the tremulant rate... > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's > challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great > prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the > world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > _______________________________________________ > jOrgan-user mailing list > jOrgan-user@... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jorgan-user -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.19/1659 - Release Date: 9/8/2008 7:01 AM ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ _______________________________________________ jOrgan-user mailing list jOrgan-user@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jorgan-user |
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Re: Small Neo Baroque OrganI made an attempt at a Schlicker skin. Downloadable at my web page.
http://ftp.pwp.att.net/p/a/pastorstratman/ An updated disposition is being developed. Paul On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 10:59 AM, Paul Stratman <pcstratman@...> wrote:
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Re: Small Neo Baroque OrganThanks Paul, I'll be able to take a look at it this weekend... :-)
GrahamG Johannesburg, South Africa ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ _______________________________________________ jOrgan-user mailing list jOrgan-user@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jorgan-user |
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Re: Small Neo Baroque OrganDelete the one I sent you and try the one on the website. It should be better.
Paul On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 2:30 AM, Graham Goode <ggoode.sa@gmail.com> wrote: Thanks Paul, I'll be able to take a look at it this weekend... :-) -- __________________________________ Pastor Paul C. Stratman St. Stephen's Ev. Lutheran Church (WELS) Beaver Dam, Wisconsin http://www.saintstephen.org pastorstratman@... pcstratman@... ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ _______________________________________________ jOrgan-user mailing list jOrgan-user@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jorgan-user |
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Re: Small Neo Baroque OrganI made some revisions to a new Schlicker skin. See it and download it at
http://ftp.pwp.att.net/p/a/pastorstratman/ I also made a revised disposition to go with the new skin. Paul pcstratman@... ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ _______________________________________________ jOrgan-user mailing list jOrgan-user@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jorgan-user |
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