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by Cornelius Hald
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Hi,
I was wondering if it would be possible to get a test account for Snowy? I´m trying to implement support for the REST API into Conboy and I would like to test it against the real API. I know I could set up my own Snowy installation, but I don´t really have time for that, so a test account would really help me a lot! Thanks! Conny _______________________________________________ Tomboy-list mailing list Tomboy-list@... http://lists.beatniksoftware.com/listinfo.cgi/tomboy-list-beatniksoftware.com |
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Re: Snowy test account
by Sandy Armstrong
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On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 1:55 AM, Cornelius Hald <hald@...> wrote:
> Hi, > > I was wondering if it would be possible to get a test account for Snowy? I´m > trying to implement support for the REST API into Conboy and I would like to > test it against the real API. I know I could set up my own Snowy > installation, but I don´t really have time for that, so a test account would > really help me a lot! We do not have a demo instance set up anywhere yet. As soon as we do, you can definitely have an account! If you read the INSTALL in Snowy, it's actually not very time-consuming to set your own up. It takes about 2 minutes (including fetching Django from SVN). Lastly, the API is still an evolving spec, so don't be surprised if a few things change. For example, we added some new stuff to the wiki just the other day, but have not yet implemented it in Tomboy or Snowy (wait for the weekend). Additionally, we are about 95% sure that we will be switching to OAuth instead of basic HTTP authentication. This change will have an impact on the GUI you develop for setting up Snowy sync in Conboy. Once we have switched to OAuth and done some unit testing of security stuff, we'll set up a demo server. I'm hoping this will happen in the next week or so, but it's hard to guess since we do this in our spare time. Looking forward to all this interoperability! Sandy _______________________________________________ Tomboy-list mailing list Tomboy-list@... http://lists.beatniksoftware.com/listinfo.cgi/tomboy-list-beatniksoftware.com |
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Re: Snowy test account
by Cornelius Hald
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Sandy Armstrong wrote:
> We do not have a demo instance set up anywhere yet. As soon as we do, > you can definitely have an account! If you read the INSTALL in Snowy, > it's actually not very time-consuming to set your own up. It takes > about 2 minutes (including fetching Django from SVN). > That sounds good, I thought it´s much more work. In fact I was just thinking "webapp" and getting nightmares with many angry apaches in it ;) I´ll give it a try on the weekend. > Lastly, the API is still an evolving spec, so don't be surprised if a > few things change. For example, we added some new stuff to the wiki > just the other day, but have not yet implemented it in Tomboy or Snowy > (wait for the weekend). Additionally, we are about 95% sure that we > will be switching to OAuth instead of basic HTTP authentication. This > change will have an impact on the GUI you develop for setting up Snowy > sync in Conboy. > Thanks for the info about OAuth. I´ll read about it as soon as I can. One thing about the API: Wouldn´t it be nice to include the cursor position into the JSON? It´s not super important, but personally I like to see where I stopped editing. It would be nice to have that even when switching computers/devices. > Once we have switched to OAuth and done some unit testing of security > stuff, we'll set up a demo server. I'm hoping this will happen in the > next week or so, but it's hard to guess since we do this in our spare > time. > Great, that´s soon enough :) I hope I´ll have something working in about two weeks. The JSON stuff is mostly implemented but the REST part, authentication and the UI still needs to be done... > Looking forward to all this interoperability! > Me too! Conny _______________________________________________ Tomboy-list mailing list Tomboy-list@... http://lists.beatniksoftware.com/listinfo.cgi/tomboy-list-beatniksoftware.com |
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Re: Snowy test account
by Sandy Armstrong
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On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 7:18 AM, Cornelius Hald <hald@...> wrote:
> Sandy Armstrong wrote: >> >> We do not have a demo instance set up anywhere yet. As soon as we do, >> you can definitely have an account! If you read the INSTALL in Snowy, >> it's actually not very time-consuming to set your own up. It takes >> about 2 minutes (including fetching Django from SVN). >> > > That sounds good, I thought it愀 much more work. In fact I was just thinking > "webapp" and getting nightmares with many angry apaches in it ;) I��l give it > a try on the weekend. #tomboy, also we have a mailing list for snowy now: http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/snowy-list >> Lastly, the API is still an evolving spec, so don't be surprised if a >> few things change. For example, we added some new stuff to the wiki >> just the other day, but have not yet implemented it in Tomboy or Snowy >> (wait for the weekend). Additionally, we are about 95% sure that we >> will be switching to OAuth instead of basic HTTP authentication. This >> change will have an impact on the GUI you develop for setting up Snowy >> sync in Conboy. >> > > Thanks for the info about OAuth. I��l read about it as soon as I can. > One thing about the API: Wouldn�� it be nice to include the cursor position > into the JSON? It愀 not super important, but personally I like to see where I > stopped editing. It would be nice to have that even when switching > computers/devices. and would not be supported in Tomboy 0.14.x (we could definitely add support in 0.15.x, though). I can definitely see how it would be useful. Need to think a bit about the consequences of 0.14.x interoperability (it would be a pain if every time a 0.14.x client did a sync, it messed up your cursor position, for example). Thanks for the feedback, Sandy _______________________________________________ Tomboy-list mailing list Tomboy-list@... http://lists.beatniksoftware.com/listinfo.cgi/tomboy-list-beatniksoftware.com |
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Re: Snowy test account
by Cornelius Hald
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Sandy Armstrong wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 7:18 AM, Cornelius Hald <hald@...> wrote: > If you have any issues, feel free to ask for help in #snowy or > #tomboy, also we have a mailing list for snowy now: > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/snowy-list Thanks, I will! > Perhaps. It is not something that was ever supported in sync before, > and would not be supported in Tomboy 0.14.x (we could definitely add > support in 0.15.x, though). I can definitely see how it would be > useful. Need to think a bit about the consequences of 0.14.x > interoperability (it would be a pain if every time a 0.14.x client did > a sync, it messed up your cursor position, for example). Ah, I see. I wasn´t aware of that. In fact I never really used the current sync implementation (shame on me). A last question comes to mind: Are there plans to move the information that a note is pinned into the XML? Last time that I checked this was stored in gconf which makes it a bit more complicated to handle and IMO it´s just meta data like change date or tags. Maybe it could even be converted to a "System:SomeThing:Pinned" tag?! Cheers! Conny _______________________________________________ Tomboy-list mailing list Tomboy-list@... http://lists.beatniksoftware.com/listinfo.cgi/tomboy-list-beatniksoftware.com |
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Re: Snowy test account
by Sandy Armstrong
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On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 7:51 AM, Cornelius Hald <hald@...> wrote:
> A last question comes to mind: Are there plans to move the information that > a note is pinned into the XML? Last time that I checked this was stored in > gconf which makes it a bit more complicated to handle and IMO it´s just meta > data like change date or tags. Maybe it could even be converted to a > "System:SomeThing:Pinned" tag?! I've gone back and forth on this. We have a bug filed about it: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=433412 I think the majority opinion is to keep the pinned state *out* of the note XML. I don't think it's really any more complicated to handle, at least in Tomboy where it is encapsulated in the Note.IsPinned property. Sandy _______________________________________________ Tomboy-list mailing list Tomboy-list@... http://lists.beatniksoftware.com/listinfo.cgi/tomboy-list-beatniksoftware.com |
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Re: Snowy test account
by Cornelius Hald
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Sandy Armstrong wrote:
> I've gone back and forth on this. We have a bug filed about it: > > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=433412 > > I think the majority opinion is to keep the pinned state *out* of the note XML. > > I don't think it's really any more complicated to handle, at least in > Tomboy where it is encapsulated in the Note.IsPinned property. After reading the comments I see the conflict. I see pros and cons for both sharing and syncing but it´s always a user preference. A use case not mentioned in the bug would be: A small team is sharing project notes. There pinned notes could be used like sticky posts in a forum and therefor should be shared... Well, but it´s tricky. Even if you make it configurable whether or not the pinned state should be synchronized/shared, it would have to be configurable for each sync/share partner which quickly would be come a usability/UI nightmare. I´m not having any opinion about that subject anymore - please forget that I was asking ;) Conny _______________________________________________ Tomboy-list mailing list Tomboy-list@... http://lists.beatniksoftware.com/listinfo.cgi/tomboy-list-beatniksoftware.com |
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Re: Snowy test account
by Sandy Armstrong
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On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Cornelius Hald <hald@...> wrote:
> Sandy Armstrong wrote: >> >> I've gone back and forth on this. We have a bug filed about it: >> >> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=433412 >> >> I think the majority opinion is to keep the pinned state *out* of the note >> XML. >> >> I don't think it's really any more complicated to handle, at least in >> Tomboy where it is encapsulated in the Note.IsPinned property. > > After reading the comments I see the conflict. I see pros and cons for both > sharing and syncing but it愀 always a user preference. > > A use case not mentioned in the bug would be: > A small team is sharing project notes. There pinned notes could be used like > sticky posts in a forum and therefor should be shared... > > Well, but it愀 tricky. Even if you make it configurable whether or not the > pinned state should be synchronized/shared, it would have to be configurable > for each sync/share partner which quickly would be come a usability/UI > nightmare. Well, just keep in mind that we are not yet at the point where we are supporting any sort of note sharing between users. It is a good think to aim for, but right now it is a very fuzzy use case which has not been spec'd out. This reduces the complexity, for now. > I惴 not having any opinion about that subject anymore - please forget that I > was asking ;) :-P Sandy _______________________________________________ Tomboy-list mailing list Tomboy-list@... http://lists.beatniksoftware.com/listinfo.cgi/tomboy-list-beatniksoftware.com |
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