Spam Again

[Henry McGilton (Boulevardier)]

Does anybody know of any way to add to Mail App's rules?     Even simple
enhancements could do wonders.    Regular Expressions, for  
instance.    Or even
something as simple as Boolean Connectives instead of the naive All or  
Any
choice we have now.

I poked around on the web but didn't find anything substantial.    The  
only
potentially promising solution is/was JunkMatcher, but (1) it seems to  
have
not been worked on for several years, and (2) it won't even build . . .

I gave up on SpamSieve, as good as it is.   And I gave up on SpamFire  
from
Matterform.    And I gave up on PopMonitor --- it was so flakey, and  
now not
supported in any meaningful fashion . . .

     Many Thanks,
         . . . . . . . .    Henry



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[Bill Wisse]

On 5/11/2009, at 6:05 AM, Henry McGilton (Boulevardier) wrote:

> I gave up on SpamSieve, as good as it is.

My statistics in SpamSieve shows 99.4% correct.

Why would you give up on that?





Greetings from
/bill at 169 west , 19 south.



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[Erik J. Barzeski]

I too am running at 99.4%. SpamSieve - along with SpamAssassin on the server
end - mean I see about one or two spam per day with almost no false
positives per month.


"Bill Wisse" <wiswp@...> wrote on 11/5/09 1:31pm:
> On 5/11/2009, at 6:05 AM, Henry McGilton (Boulevardier) wrote:
>
>> I gave up on SpamSieve, as good as it is.
>
> My statistics in SpamSieve shows 99.4% correct.
>
> Why would you give up on that?



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[Henry McGilton (Boulevardier)]

On Nov 5, 2009, at 10:31 AM, Bill Wisse wrote:

>
> On 5/11/2009, at 6:05 AM, Henry McGilton (Boulevardier) wrote:
>
>> I gave up on SpamSieve, as good as it is.
>
> My statistics in SpamSieve shows 99.4% correct.
>
> Why would you give up on that?


Well, I did say SpamSieve is (very) good.    But at least the last time
I used SpamSieve for any length of time, it was showing me the same
Spam over and over again.    I wanted controls that would simply delete
known Spam from the server and not even download it.

As a for instance, after I've determined that mail addressed to 'Henry  
Wloch' is Spam, I
don't need a Spam Filter to download it any more . . .    It was Spam  
twelve
years ago, it's Spam now, and it's been Spam in all the intervening  
time . . .

That's why I started using PopMonitor --- you can select stuff to delete
from the server based on criteria you set.    But PopMonitor is / was  
more
flakey than a dandruff advert (crashing all the time; no longer  
supported) I gave up.

Based on what I've done over the past few months or so, my Spam load
(after my ISP has run their server-side tools) is down from the several
hundred per day to something more 'reasonable'.

I would just like to filter out all the garbage that is now coming to
postmaster and webmaster . . .    I could reduce it to a trickle if
Mail App rules had regular expressions and / or Boolean expressions.
Something like

   if 'To' is  (postmaster  OR  webmaster) AND 'From' contains
       (watches OR handbags OR Impotence OR Pizza  and so on)

Surely what I'm looking for is not that difficult ?    Then again,  
maybe if
it's so hard for people to understand . . .

   Cheers,
       . . . . . . . .    Henry
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[Cesar Alsina]

On Nov 5, 2009, at 10:35 PM, Henry McGilton (Boulevardier) wrote:

> I would just like to filter out all the garbage that is now coming to
> postmaster and webmaster . . .    I could reduce it to a trickle if
> Mail App rules had regular expressions and / or Boolean expressions.
> Something like
>
>  if 'To' is  (postmaster  OR  webmaster) AND 'From' contains
>      (watches OR handbags OR Impotence OR Pizza  and so on)
>
> Surely what I'm looking for is not that difficult ?    Then again,  
> maybe if
> it's so hard for people to understand . . .

I'm sure it's not an oversight from your part, but it's worth to  
mention that Apple's Mail offers a filtering system: They call it  
Rules in the Preferences. More than a dozen canned ifs (including all  
the ones you mention) are available, plus the chance to add obscure  
stuff to message headers... probably accepting a wide range of that  
geeky gibberish :-)

So, rule your incoming mail a little bit. Be tough. Works for me. YMMV.

... peace.

Cesar Alsina


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[LuKreme]

On 5-Nov-2009, at 22:55, Cesar Alsina wrote:
> I'm sure it's not an oversight from your part, but it's worth to  
> mention that Apple's Mail offers a filtering system: They call it  
> Rules in the Preferences. More than a dozen canned ifs (including  
> all the ones you mention) are available, plus the chance to add  
> obscure stuff to message headers... probably accepting a wide range  
> of that geeky gibberish :-)
>
> So, rule your incoming mail a little bit. Be tough. Works for me.  
> YMMV.


Mail.app rules allow either AND for all conditions or OR for all  
conditions.

They do not allow (this OR that) AND (foo OR bar OR ram)


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