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Specific option for outlook 2007 - courier-pop3
by Sébastien VINOT
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I'm trying to use courier (with both IMAP and POP). IMAP works fine and POP too with thunderbird. My problem is that Outlook 2007 duplicates some mails! I've done the next test: On a gentoo 2008 server, I have an account with some unread mails. I open Outlook 2007 (configured with the POP server and with the option "keep mails on server"). The result is that some mails are downloaded twice (but not all). I close outlook and then open Thunderbird (with similar configuration). I get then my mail perfectly. Of course I tried another POP server (gmail) with my outlook and this time it works fine. I also tried on 3 PCs my outlook and I get the same result. I tried to access my POP server directly with telnet and it works fine. How can I correct my server ? The PCs I'm using are working on Vista and outlook is SP2. The server is a Gentoo 2008 and courier-imap used is "4.0.6-r3". Thanks for your help Sebastien ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference _______________________________________________ courier-users mailing list courier-users@... Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users |
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Re: Specific option for outlook 2007 - courier-pop3
by Alexander Erameh
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I am suing Outlook Express with Courier IMAP and it works perfectly. Why
don't you use Outlook Express? Alexander -----Original Message----- From: Sébastien VINOT [mailto:sebastien.vinot@...] Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 9:13 AM To: courier-users@... Subject: Re: [courier-users] Specific option for outlook 2007 - courier-pop3 Thanks for the clue but unfortunately with or without the option I have the same result (with outlook I mean). I'm continuing investigating by using tcpdump on POP3 but I did not find multiple "RETR" when outlook gets multiple mails. Very strange ... Sebastien Le 7 oct. 09 à 09:55, Alexander Hotmail a écrit : > Remove the option "Keep Mails on Server" in Outlook. Courier IMAP > has an > Option that can be configured from the Server end to retain Mails on > the > Server for some time. > > Alexander > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sébastien VINOT [mailto:sebastien.vinot@...] > Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 8:18 AM > To: courier-users@... > Subject: [courier-users] Specific option for outlook 2007 - courier- > pop3 > > Hello, > > I'm trying to use courier (with both IMAP and POP). IMAP works fine > and POP too with thunderbird. My problem is that Outlook 2007 > duplicates some mails! > > I've done the next test: On a gentoo 2008 server, I have an account > with some unread mails. I open Outlook 2007 (configured with the POP > server and with the option "keep mails on server"). The result is that > some mails are downloaded twice (but not all). I close outlook and > then open Thunderbird (with similar configuration). I get then my mail > perfectly. > > Of course I tried another POP server (gmail) with my outlook and this > time it works fine. I also tried on 3 PCs my outlook and I get the > same result. > > I tried to access my POP server directly with telnet and it works > fine. > > How can I correct my server ? > > The PCs I'm using are working on Vista and outlook is SP2. > The server is a Gentoo 2008 and courier-imap used is "4.0.6-r3". > > > Thanks for your help > > Sebastien > > > -- > Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA > is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart > your > developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and > stay > ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference > _______________________________________________ > courier-users mailing list > courier-users@... > Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier- > users > -- Sébastien VINOT sebastien.vinot@... Tel: +33 (1) 48 54 03 42 Mobile : + 33 (6) 86 71 77 35 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference _______________________________________________ courier-users mailing list courier-users@... Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference _______________________________________________ courier-users mailing list courier-users@... Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users |
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Re: Specific option for outlook 2007 - courier-pop3
by Sébastien VINOT
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Well, as I said I did tests with Thunderbird (with POP) and it works
perfectly. The problem is that my customers want to use outlook 2007 (not the "Express" version). Moreover, even if the problem comes from outlook itself I don't understand why it works fine with gmail (with the POP server). Can this comes from Gentoo itself or another component ? In my mind, because mails are not duplicated on the server, the problem is somewhere in the system "POP - OUTLOOK". Is there a doc where the mail fetching process is explained (the use of the courierpop3dsizelist) aspecially concerning the identification of new mails. For info, I just did a new test with an older gentoo (wich runs Courier IMAP / POP) and that times this works. The configuration is the same than the other server except that the "bugged" one uses spam assassin. Anyway thanks, for your help :) Sebastien Le 7 oct. 09 à 11:45, Alexander Hotmail a écrit : > I am suing Outlook Express with Courier IMAP and it works perfectly. > Why > don't you use Outlook Express? > > Alexander > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sébastien VINOT [mailto:sebastien.vinot@...] > Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 9:13 AM > To: courier-users@... > Subject: Re: [courier-users] Specific option for outlook 2007 - > courier-pop3 > > Thanks for the clue but unfortunately with or without the option I > have the same result (with outlook I mean). > > I'm continuing investigating by using tcpdump on POP3 but I did not > find multiple "RETR" when outlook gets multiple mails. Very > strange ... > > Sebastien > > > > Le 7 oct. 09 à 09:55, Alexander Hotmail a écrit : > >> Remove the option "Keep Mails on Server" in Outlook. Courier IMAP >> has an >> Option that can be configured from the Server end to retain Mails on >> the >> Server for some time. >> >> Alexander >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Sébastien VINOT [mailto:sebastien.vinot@...] >> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 8:18 AM >> To: courier-users@... >> Subject: [courier-users] Specific option for outlook 2007 - courier- >> pop3 >> >> Hello, >> >> I'm trying to use courier (with both IMAP and POP). IMAP works fine >> and POP too with thunderbird. My problem is that Outlook 2007 >> duplicates some mails! >> >> I've done the next test: On a gentoo 2008 server, I have an account >> with some unread mails. I open Outlook 2007 (configured with the POP >> server and with the option "keep mails on server"). The result is >> that >> some mails are downloaded twice (but not all). I close outlook and >> then open Thunderbird (with similar configuration). I get then my >> perfectly. >> >> Of course I tried another POP server (gmail) with my outlook and this >> time it works fine. I also tried on 3 PCs my outlook and I get the >> same result. >> >> I tried to access my POP server directly with telnet and it works >> fine. >> >> How can I correct my server ? >> >> The PCs I'm using are working on Vista and outlook is SP2. >> The server is a Gentoo 2008 and courier-imap used is "4.0.6-r3". >> >> >> Thanks for your help >> >> Sebastien >> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -- >> Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA >> is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart >> your >> developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and >> stay >> ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference >> _______________________________________________ >> courier-users mailing list >> courier-users@... >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier- >> users >> > > -- > Sébastien VINOT > sebastien.vinot@... > Tel: +33 (1) 48 54 03 42 > Mobile : + 33 (6) 86 71 77 35 > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA > is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart > your > developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and > stay > ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference > _______________________________________________ > courier-users mailing list > courier-users@... > Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier- > users > -- Sébastien VINOT sebastien.vinot@... Tel: +33 (1) 48 54 03 42 Mobile : + 33 (6) 86 71 77 35 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference _______________________________________________ courier-users mailing list courier-users@... Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users |
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Re: Specific option for outlook 2007 - courier-pop3
by Ale2008
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Sébastien VINOT wrote:
> In my mind, because mails are not duplicated on the server, the > problem is somewhere in the system "POP - OUTLOOK". Is there a doc > where the mail fetching process is explained (the use of the > courierpop3dsizelist) aspecially concerning the identification of new > mails. POP3 is explained in http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1939. The "optionality" of UIDL and TOP is also mentioned in the short rfc1957. Outlook has always had this kind of problem, even with Exchange servers. I'd suggest to either use IMAP or clear the option of leaving old messages on the server. Yet another approach is http://en.kioskea.net/telecharger/telecharger-2659-duplicates-remover-for-outlook (presumably for servers that don't support IMAP.) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference _______________________________________________ courier-users mailing list courier-users@... Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users |
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Re: Specific option for outlook 2007 - courier-pop3
by Sébastien VINOT
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Thanks for the links. As far as I investigated the problem does not
come from the server and as you mentionned, Outlook seems to work not on a standard way. Moreover, I did new tests and I cannot reproduce the problem with the same outlook version on a Windows XP SP 3 ... Concerning removing the "keep messages on the server" does not help :( Le 9 oct. 09 à 09:17, Alessandro Vesely a écrit : > Sébastien VINOT wrote: >> In my mind, because mails are not duplicated on the server, the >> problem is somewhere in the system "POP - OUTLOOK". Is there a doc >> where the mail fetching process is explained (the use of the >> courierpop3dsizelist) aspecially concerning the identification of new >> mails. > > POP3 is explained in http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1939. The > "optionality" of UIDL and TOP is also mentioned in the short rfc1957. > > Outlook has always had this kind of problem, even with Exchange > servers. I'd suggest to either use IMAP or clear the option of > leaving old messages on the server. Yet another approach is > http://en.kioskea.net/telecharger/telecharger-2659-duplicates-remover-for-outlook > (presumably for servers that don't support IMAP.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA > is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart > your > developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and > stay > ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference > _______________________________________________ > courier-users mailing list > courier-users@... > Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier- > users -- Sébastien VINOT sebastien.vinot@... Tel: +33 (1) 48 54 03 42 Mobile : + 33 (6) 86 71 77 35 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference _______________________________________________ courier-users mailing list courier-users@... Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users |
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Re: Specific option for outlook 2007 - courier-pop3
by Ale2008
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Sébastien VINOT wrote:
>> [duplicated messages on outlook - pop3] > > Concerning removing the "keep messages on the server" does not help :( Does it download the same message twice _on the same session_? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference _______________________________________________ courier-users mailing list courier-users@... Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users |
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Re: Specific option for outlook 2007 - courier-pop3
by Sébastien VINOT
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Hello Alessandro,
I don't know how to see this. I did the next test: I dumped (with tcpdump) the POP3 traffic and there is not duplicate RETR command with the same id. I think that this means mails are not downloaded twice. If there is another way to test this, please tell me how. Thanks, sebastien Le 10 oct. 09 à 07:25, Alessandro Vesely a écrit : > Sébastien VINOT wrote: >>> [duplicated messages on outlook - pop3] >> >> Concerning removing the "keep messages on the server" does not >> help :( > > Does it download the same message twice _on the same session_? > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA > is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart > your > developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and > stay > ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference > _______________________________________________ > courier-users mailing list > courier-users@... > Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier- > users -- Sébastien VINOT sebastien.vinot@... Tel: +33 (1) 48 54 03 42 Mobile : + 33 (6) 86 71 77 35 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference _______________________________________________ courier-users mailing list courier-users@... Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users |
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Autoforward and Max Mail Size Facility
by Alexander Erameh
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Hi All, Where does one configure the following in the Courier Server?: ·
Auto-forward facility (E.g say a local user has a yahoo account that he wishes
to receive a copy of his local Mails) · Maximum
outgoing Mail size for Local users Thanks ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference _______________________________________________ courier-users mailing list courier-users@... Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users |
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Re: Autoforward and Max Mail Size Facility
by Milan Obuch-14
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On Saturday 10 October 2009, Alexander Hotmail wrote:
> Hi All, > > Where does one configure the following in the Courier Server?: > > . Auto-forward facility (E.g say a local user has a yahoo account that he > wishes to receive a copy of his local Mails) > There are some possibilities... You can use .courier file in relevant home directory to specify non-default delivery instructions for this mailbox (see dot-courier man page) or you can use maildrop filtering recipe to do it another way. In either case, be warned - in general mail forwarding without changing sender address may cause problem (spf checking being first one coming along). > . Maximum outgoing Mail size for Local users > I don't know whether it can be set per user, never tried that. There is sizelimit configuration file in etc directory, but this is global setting. Regards, Milan -- This address is used only for mailing list response. Do not send any personal messages to it, use milan in address instead. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference _______________________________________________ courier-users mailing list courier-users@... Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users |
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Re: Autoforward and Max Mail Size Facility
by Alexander Erameh
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Thanks for the .courier idea. I will try it.
But could you please be more specific about the size limit aspect? I have checked etc directory and etc/courier directory but could not find any size limit configuration -----Original Message----- From: Milan Obuch [mailto:courier-users@...] Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 11:21 AM To: courier-users@... Cc: Alexander Hotmail Subject: Re: Autoforward and Max Mail Size Facility On Saturday 10 October 2009, Alexander Hotmail wrote: > Hi All, > > Where does one configure the following in the Courier Server?: > > . Auto-forward facility (E.g say a local user has a yahoo account that he > wishes to receive a copy of his local Mails) > There are some possibilities... You can use .courier file in relevant home directory to specify non-default delivery instructions for this mailbox (see dot-courier man page) or you can use maildrop filtering recipe to do it another way. In either case, be warned - in general mail forwarding without changing sender address may cause problem (spf checking being first one coming along). > . Maximum outgoing Mail size for Local users > I don't know whether it can be set per user, never tried that. There is sizelimit configuration file in etc directory, but this is global setting. Regards, Milan -- This address is used only for mailing list response. Do not send any personal messages to it, use milan in address instead. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference _______________________________________________ courier-users mailing list courier-users@... Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users |
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Re: Autoforward and Max Mail Size Facility
by Sam Varshavchik
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Alexander Hotmail writes:
> « HTML content follows » > > Hi All, > > Where does one configure the following in the Courier Server?: > > · Auto-forward facility (E.g say a local user has a yahoo account that he > wishes to receive a copy of his local Mails) Define an alias. See the makealiases man page. > · Maximum outgoing Mail size for Local users There is no per-user maximum outgoing mail size. It is possible to set individual maximum message sizes based on the sender's IP address. See "sizelimit" in the courier(8) man page. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference _______________________________________________ courier-users mailing list courier-users@... Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users |
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Re: Autoforward and Max Mail Size Facility
by Ale2008
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Milan Obuch wrote:
> On Saturday 10 October 2009, Alexander Hotmail wrote: >> . Auto-forward facility (E.g say a local user has a yahoo account that he >> wishes to receive a copy of his local Mails) > > [...] or you can use maildrop filtering recipe to do it another way. > >> . Maximum outgoing Mail size for Local users As a scripting language, maildrop allows to check the message size and act accordingly. Checking spam rating before forwarding may also be a good idea... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference _______________________________________________ courier-users mailing list courier-users@... Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users |
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Re: Autoforward and Max Mail Size Facility
by Milan Obuch-14
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On Saturday 10 October 2009 13:08:45 Alexander Hotmail wrote:
> Thanks for the .courier idea. I will try it. > > But could you please be more specific about the size limit aspect? I have > checked etc directory and etc/courier directory but could not find any size > limit configuration > In etc/courier directory, there could be a file named sizelimit. If such file is not present, default size limit (10000000 I think) comes into effect. So you can just try create it with any method you are comfortable with and put desired value into it. This is global value, affecting all mails coming through your mail server. It seems you can do per sender IP size limiting, maybe in smtpaccess config file/directory, setting SIZELIMIT environment variable. Look at http://www.courier-mta.org/courier.html for some more description. If all your local users are in some, say private, address space, this method be of use for you. Milan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference _______________________________________________ courier-users mailing list courier-users@... Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users |
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MAIL AUTO-FORWARD
by Alexander Erameh
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Thanks.
I implemented the .courier and .forward and it works but not exactly the way I want it. I have also checked maildropfilter and it does the same thing. What I want to achieve is to keep a local copy and send a copy out, but what these things do is to send a copy out without keeping a local copy. Alexander ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference _______________________________________________ courier-users mailing list courier-users@... Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users |
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Re: MAIL AUTO-FORWARD
by Milan Obuch-14
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On Wednesday 14 October 2009 09:03:46 Alexander Hotmail wrote:
> Thanks. > I implemented the .courier and .forward and it works but not exactly the > way I want it. I have also checked maildropfilter and it does the same > thing. What I want to achieve is to keep a local copy and send a copy out, > but what these things do is to send a copy out without keeping a local > copy. > > Alexander > If you use .courier forwarding, you need two lines - one tells ./Maildir/ meaning save local copy, and the other &address-somewhere-else.com meaning send a copy to another location. Similar effect can be achieved with maildrop - line cc address-somewhere-else.com sends copy to that address and continues, so you will have a local copy as well. Again, please look at man pages/www docs for details. Regards, Milan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference _______________________________________________ courier-users mailing list courier-users@... Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users |
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