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State of Text Rendering

by Behdad Esfahbod-3 :: Rate this Message:

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Hi,

This is a few weeks old, from GUADEC, but it just occurred to me that I never
posted it here:

   http://behdad.org/text/

Hope people find it useful,
behdad
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Re: State of Text Rendering

by Petr Tomasek :: Rate this Message:

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On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 08:47:09PM -0400, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
> Hi,
>
> This is a few weeks old, from GUADEC, but it just occurred to me that I
> never posted it here:
>
>   http://behdad.org/text/
>
> Hope people find it useful,
> behdad

Hello Behdad,

I'm little confused. You write "Next step is to ... merge the Pango and Qt shapers".
Does it mean, that pango will be obsolete then? Or just it's shapers (pango modules?).

And what about SIL Graphite?
I thought, there was a module to bring the SIL Graphite features for fonts that
support it. Will this be impossible with the new approach?

Thanks for clarifying!
P.T.

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Re: State of Text Rendering

by Behdad Esfahbod-3 :: Rate this Message:

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On 08/20/2009 02:51 PM, Petr Tomasek wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 08:47:09PM -0400, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> This is a few weeks old, from GUADEC, but it just occurred to me that I
>> never posted it here:
>>
>>    http://behdad.org/text/
>>
>> Hope people find it useful,
>> behdad
>
> Hello Behdad,
>
> I'm little confused. You write "Next step is to ... merge the Pango and Qt shapers".
> Does it mean, that pango will be obsolete then? Or just it's shapers (pango modules?).

Just the shapers.  All the fc modules: basic-fc, arabic-fc, indic-fc,
hebrew-fc ..., will be replaced by a single basic-hb module.  Like what we do
on win32 and atsui right now.


> And what about SIL Graphite?
> I thought, there was a module to bring the SIL Graphite features for fonts that
> support it. Will this be impossible with the new approach?

No:

1) One still can add/install Pango modules,

2) Proper Graphite support will be added to HarfBuzz at some point.

behdad

> Thanks for clarifying!
> P.T.
>
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Re: State of Text Rendering

by Kenichi Handa :: Rate this Message:

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In article <4A8C9D0D.1030604@...>, Behdad Esfahbod <behdad@...> writes:

> This is a few weeks old, from GUADEC, but it just occurred to me that I never
> posted it here:

>    http://behdad.org/text/

It's is a wonderful survey!  And thank you for referring to
m17n in that page.  Could you add the fact that the latest
Emacs (Ver.23.1; released last month) uses m17n-lib for
Complex Text Layout?

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Re: State of Text Rendering

by Behdad Esfahbod-3 :: Rate this Message:

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On 08/21/2009 02:22 AM, Kenichi Handa wrote:

> In article<4A8C9D0D.1030604@...>, Behdad Esfahbod<behdad@...>  writes:
>
>> This is a few weeks old, from GUADEC, but it just occurred to me that I never
>> posted it here:
>
>>     http://behdad.org/text/
>
> It's is a wonderful survey!  And thank you for referring to
> m17n in that page.  Could you add the fact that the latest
> Emacs (Ver.23.1; released last month) uses m17n-lib for
> Complex Text Layout?

Done.

behdad

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Re: State of Text Rendering

by Kenichi Handa :: Rate this Message:

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In article <4A8EA82C.7050201@...>, Behdad Esfahbod <behdad@...> writes:

>>> http://behdad.org/text/
> >
> > It's is a wonderful survey!  And thank you for referring to
> > m17n in that page.  Could you add the fact that the latest
> > Emacs (Ver.23.1; released last month) uses m17n-lib for
> > Complex Text Layout?

> Done.

Thank you.

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