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Status of FedoraStudio
by Orcan Ogetbil-2
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Hi all,
I spent some time last week to finish modifying the .desktop files of Fedora's multimedia packages (both Audio and Video). This will bring two advantages to Fedora/PlanetCCRMA users when Fedora 12 is released: 1- We will have a "multimedia-menus" RPM package in Fedora. By installing this. your Multimedia/Sound&Video menu will be categorized nicely. 2- Since I tried to make the .desktop file Category entries compatible as much as possible with the PlanetCCRMA's menus package, Fedora packages will likely go to the correct submenu of the PlanetCCRMA menu. The goal was to make things easily accessible. Do not hesitate to file bugs or just bug me with email if there is something wrong. I'm sure something will be wrong since I went through hundreds of Fedora packages. Note that there is a multimedia-menus package that is in F-11's updates-testing. This package is for testing purposes only, as I didn't modify all the .desktop files in a stable F-11 release (people will get mad if I do). But with F-12, your menus are gonna rock! As usual, suggestions are welcome, since the primary target audience of the multimedia-menus RPM package is you folks. There are a few technical details Fernando and other PlanetCCRMA packagers might want to know: - One of the categories I used was "X-DigitalProcessing". About half of my way through Fedora packages, I realized that PlanetCCRMA was using the convention "X-Digital_Processing". Note the "_". My bad! As far as I can tell, this is the only incompatibility between Fedora and PlanetCCRMA. I would be glad if you guys can adjust things on the PlanetCCRMA side to work this around. - multimedia-menus package will not bring as many submenus as planetccrma-menus packages does. People didn't want too many submenus in Fedora's package. So I "merged" some of the PlanetCCRMA submenus into single menus in Fedora. (In mathematical language, there is almost a surjective (onto) but not bijective (one-to-one) map from PlanetCCRMA submenus to multimedia-menus of Fedora) - Reference: Complete list of categories I used in multimedia-menus can be found here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/FedoraStudio Cheers, Orcan _______________________________________________ PlanetCCRMA mailing list PlanetCCRMA@... http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma |
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libsndfile
by David Nielson
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Ardour3 has, for a long time, required version 1.0.18 of libsndfile
(which has been out for a while now.) Ardour2 recently started requiring it if you're going to build it yourself. Fedora is still offering 1.0.17 in its repositories, though libsndfile is up to 1.0.20 now. Can I request CCRMA make a package available of the newer version? Is that a bad idea? Should I pester Fedora about it? If so, where do I make the request? Thanks, David Nielson _______________________________________________ PlanetCCRMA mailing list PlanetCCRMA@... http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma |
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Re: libsndfile
by Orcan Ogetbil-2
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On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 5:38 AM, David Nielson wrote:
> Ardour3 has, for a long time, required version 1.0.18 of libsndfile > (which has been out for a while now.) Ardour2 recently started requiring > it if you're going to build it yourself. Fedora is still offering 1.0.17 > in its repositories, though libsndfile is up to 1.0.20 now. > > Can I request CCRMA make a package available of the newer version? Is > that a bad idea? Should I pester Fedora about it? If so, where do I make > the request? > > Thanks, > David Nielson > libsndfile-1.0.20 will be on Fedora-12. I suspect that it is ABI incompatible with libsndfile-1.0.17 and thus updating libsndfile in stable releases of Fedora would require a rebuilding of everything that depends on libsndfile. Therefore even having a package in PlanetCCRMA would break things on the Fedora side. Of course this analysis assumes ABI incompatibility. You can still try your chances by filing a bug at bugzilla.redhat.com. Orcan _______________________________________________ PlanetCCRMA mailing list PlanetCCRMA@... http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma |
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Re: libsndfile
by Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
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On Sun, 2009-10-04 at 15:14 -0400, Orcan Ogetbil wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 5:38 AM, David Nielson wrote: > > Ardour3 has, for a long time, required version 1.0.18 of libsndfile > > (which has been out for a while now.) Ardour2 recently started requiring > > it if you're going to build it yourself. Fedora is still offering 1.0.17 > > in its repositories, though libsndfile is up to 1.0.20 now. > > > > Can I request CCRMA make a package available of the newer version? Is > > that a bad idea? Should I pester Fedora about it? If so, where do I make > > the request? > > > > Thanks, > > David Nielson > > > > libsndfile-1.0.20 will be on Fedora-12. > > I suspect that it is ABI incompatible with libsndfile-1.0.17 and thus > updating libsndfile in stable releases of Fedora would require a > rebuilding of everything that depends on libsndfile. Therefore even > having a package in PlanetCCRMA would break things on the Fedora side. > > Of course this analysis assumes ABI incompatibility. I would be _very_ surprised if it broke abi compatibility. I'd ask on the libsndfile lists or directly in LAU or LAD... > You can still try > your chances by filing a bug at bugzilla.redhat.com. That'd be the thing to do. While I could throw a quick build I'd rather go through the proper channels in Fedora, otherwise there's no advantage of packages migrating to Fedora (and I _do_ really prefer that :-) -- Fernando _______________________________________________ PlanetCCRMA mailing list PlanetCCRMA@... http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma |
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Re: libsndfile
by David Nielson
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> I would be _very_ surprised if it broke abi compatibility. > I'd ask on the libsndfile lists or directly in LAU or LAD... There is no ABI incompatibility. >> You can still try >> your chances by filing a bug at bugzilla.redhat.com. I filed the bug yesterday I think. It's now been assigned to someone, and they say that it "should be doable" for F11 and Rawhide. F10 may be too close to end-of-life. So, it looks promising. Thanks, everyone for your support and encouragement. Getting involved really isn't as scary as I thought it would be. David Nielson _______________________________________________ PlanetCCRMA mailing list PlanetCCRMA@... http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma |
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Re: Status of FedoraStudio
by Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
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On Wed, 2009-09-30 at 02:10 -0400, Orcan Ogetbil wrote:
> Hi all, (sorry for the incredibly delayed response...) > I spent some time last week to finish modifying the .desktop files of > Fedora's multimedia packages (both Audio and Video). This will bring > two advantages to Fedora/PlanetCCRMA users when Fedora 12 is released: > > 1- We will have a "multimedia-menus" RPM package in Fedora. By > installing this. your Multimedia/Sound&Video menu will be categorized > nicely. > 2- Since I tried to make the .desktop file Category entries compatible > as much as possible with the PlanetCCRMA's menus package, Fedora > packages will likely go to the correct submenu of the PlanetCCRMA > menu. Thanks!! > The goal was to make things easily accessible. Do not hesitate to file > bugs or just bug me with email if there is something wrong. I'm sure > something will be wrong since I went through hundreds of Fedora > packages. Note that there is a multimedia-menus package that is in > F-11's updates-testing. This package is for testing purposes only, as > I didn't modify all the .desktop files in a stable F-11 release > (people will get mad if I do). But with F-12, your menus are gonna > rock! _Very good news_!... > As usual, suggestions are welcome, since the primary target audience > of the multimedia-menus RPM package is you folks. > > There are a few technical details Fernando and other PlanetCCRMA > packagers might want to know: > - One of the categories I used was "X-DigitalProcessing". About half > of my way through Fedora packages, I realized that PlanetCCRMA was > using the convention "X-Digital_Processing". Note the "_". My bad! No problem, I'll change this for the Fedora 12 versions of the packages I maintain (I used the "_" mainly because the menu structure is script generated in my package, so _ gets translated into a " " for the text of the menu). Thanks again! -- Fernando > As > far as I can tell, this is the only incompatibility between Fedora and > PlanetCCRMA. I would be glad if you guys can adjust things on the > PlanetCCRMA side to work this around. > - multimedia-menus package will not bring as many submenus as > planetccrma-menus packages does. People didn't want too many submenus > in Fedora's package. So I "merged" some of the PlanetCCRMA submenus > into single menus in Fedora. (In mathematical language, there is > almost a surjective (onto) but not bijective (one-to-one) map from > PlanetCCRMA submenus to multimedia-menus of Fedora) > - Reference: Complete list of categories I used in multimedia-menus > can be found here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/FedoraStudio > > Cheers, > Orcan _______________________________________________ PlanetCCRMA mailing list PlanetCCRMA@... http://ccrma-mail.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/planetccrma |
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