Status of NTPL switch and buildds

[Frans Pop-3]

Hi,

Could someone clarify the current status of the NTPL switch and the hppa
buildds?

It looks as if all buildds are currently down. Is that due to (issues with)
the switch to NTPL or unrelated?

TIA,
FJP


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[Domenico Andreoli-3]

On Wed, Nov 04, 2009 at 11:22:39PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote:
> Hi,

hi,

> Could someone clarify the current status of the NTPL switch and the hppa
> buildds?

the only thing i can say is that current eglibc has NTPL

> It looks as if all buildds are currently down. Is that due to (issues with)
> the switch to NTPL or unrelated?

well, my hppa box is in a pretty bad shape. after this morning update
apt broke badly and is unusable. and it also FTBFS. i'm not still not
sure about what broke what.

i will update later.

ciao,
Domenico

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[malat]

On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Domenico Andreoli <cavok@...> wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 04, 2009 at 11:22:39PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote:
>> Hi,
>
> hi,
>
>> Could someone clarify the current status of the NTPL switch and the hppa
>> buildds?
>
> the only thing i can say is that current eglibc has NTPL
>
>> It looks as if all buildds are currently down. Is that due to (issues with)
>> the switch to NTPL or unrelated?
>
> well, my hppa box is in a pretty bad shape. after this morning update
> apt broke badly and is unusable. and it also FTBFS. i'm not still not
> sure about what broke what.

there is an issue with pdiff files right now AFAIK:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2009/11/msg00225.html

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[Domenico Andreoli-3]

On Thu, Nov 05, 2009 at 10:52:59AM +0100, Mathieu Malaterre wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Domenico Andreoli <cavok@...> wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 04, 2009 at 11:22:39PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >
> > hi,
> >
> >> Could someone clarify the current status of the NTPL switch and the hppa
> >> buildds?
> >
> > the only thing i can say is that current eglibc has NTPL
> >
> >> It looks as if all buildds are currently down. Is that due to (issues with)
> >> the switch to NTPL or unrelated?
> >
> > well, my hppa box is in a pretty bad shape. after this morning update
> > apt broke badly and is unusable. and it also FTBFS. i'm not still not
> > sure about what broke what.
>
> there is an issue with pdiff files right now AFAIK:
>
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2009/11/msg00225.html

this is a different problem, indeed here apt segvs also with -o
Acquire::Pdiffs=false, which is anyway disabled in my config file

regards,
Domenico

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[Domenico Andreoli-3]

On Thu, Nov 05, 2009 at 12:25:20PM +0100, Domenico Andreoli wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 05, 2009 at 10:52:59AM +0100, Mathieu Malaterre wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Domenico Andreoli <cavok@...> wrote:
> > > On Wed, Nov 04, 2009 at 11:22:39PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote:
> > >> Hi,
> > >
> > > hi,
> > >
> > >> Could someone clarify the current status of the NTPL switch and the hppa
> > >> buildds?
> > >
> > > the only thing i can say is that current eglibc has NTPL
> > >
> > >> It looks as if all buildds are currently down. Is that due to (issues with)
> > >> the switch to NTPL or unrelated?
> > >
> > > well, my hppa box is in a pretty bad shape. after this morning update
> > > apt broke badly and is unusable. and it also FTBFS. i'm not still not
> > > sure about what broke what.
> >
> > there is an issue with pdiff files right now AFAIK:
> >
> > http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2009/11/msg00225.html
>
> this is a different problem, indeed here apt segvs also with -o
> Acquire::Pdiffs=false, which is anyway disabled in my config file

i had to downgrade libstdc++-4.4 to 4.4.2-1, which indeed was updated
today. the build of apt died during the g++ autoconf test but later
builds died elsewhere.

i'm going to submit a new bug report.

cheers,
Domenico

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[Carlos O'Donell-2]

On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Frans Pop <elendil@...> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Could someone clarify the current status of the NTPL switch and the hppa
> buildds?
>
> It looks as if all buildds are currently down. Is that due to (issues with)
> the switch to NTPL or unrelated?

The only issue that I am aware of is that gcj is broken with NPTL, and
I am investigating that.

If there are other serious issues please provide me with a test case.
I've been running the experimental eglibc with NPTL enabled for over
two months now.

Cheers,
Carlos.


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[Frans Pop-3]

On Thursday 05 November 2009, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Frans Pop <elendil@...> wrote:
> If there are other serious issues please provide me with a test case.
> I've been running the experimental eglibc with NPTL enabled for over
> two months now.

No, I have nothing specific, except maybe this.

I tried rebuilding xmms2 with an SMP kernel just to see if that would work
now with NPTL. Instead of failing with "wait: No child processes" fairly
late in the build [1] (which I could reproduce) it now reliably segfaults
early in the build at:

./waf configure --nocache --prefix=/usr --with-mandir=/usr/share/man --with-perl-archdir=/usr/lib/perl5
   --with-perl-binary=/usr/bin/perl --with-ruby-archdir=/usr/lib/ruby/1.8/hppa-linux
   --with-ruby-libdir=/usr/lib/ruby/1.8 --without-optionals=python --without-plugins=mac
make: *** [build-stamp] Segmentation fault

And I now also get a segfault with an UP kernel, but much later:

23:45:51 runner system command -> /usr/bin/gcc -g -O2 -g -O0 -fPIC -DPIC  -Idefault -I.. -Idefault/src/include
   -I../src/include -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -DUSE_TAGGING
   ../src/plugins/mp4/mp4ff/mp4util.c -c -o default/src/plugins/mp4/mp4ff/mp4util_1.o
make: *** [build-stamp] Segmentation fault

It used to build without problems with that same UP kernel.

This may be unrelated to NPTL though as there've been various other updates.

Cheers,
FJP

[1] https://buildd.debian.org/fetch.cgi?&pkg=xmms2&ver=0.6DrMattDestruction-5%2Bb1&arch=hppa&stamp=1254363843&file=log


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[Frans Pop-3]

Domenico Andreoli wrote:
> i had to downgrade libstdc++-4.4 to 4.4.2-1, which indeed was updated
> today. the build of apt died during the g++ autoconf test but later
> builds died elsewhere.

I ran into the same issue today. Both apt and aptitude started segfaulting
after upgrading libstdc++6 from 4.4.2-1 to 4.4.2-2.
After downgrading that plus three related packages it all worked again.

I see you filed #554574 for this. Thanks.

Cheers,
FJP


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[Carlos O'Donell-2]

On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Frans Pop <elendil@...> wrote:

> On Thursday 05 November 2009, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 5:22 PM, Frans Pop <elendil@...> wrote:
>> If there are other serious issues please provide me with a test case.
>> I've been running the experimental eglibc with NPTL enabled for over
>> two months now.
>
> No, I have nothing specific, except maybe this.
>
> I tried rebuilding xmms2 with an SMP kernel just to see if that would work
> now with NPTL. Instead of failing with "wait: No child processes" fairly
> late in the build [1] (which I could reproduce) it now reliably segfaults
> early in the build at:
>
> ./waf configure --nocache --prefix=/usr --with-mandir=/usr/share/man --with-perl-archdir=/usr/lib/perl5
>   --with-perl-binary=/usr/bin/perl --with-ruby-archdir=/usr/lib/ruby/1.8/hppa-linux
>   --with-ruby-libdir=/usr/lib/ruby/1.8 --without-optionals=python --without-plugins=mac
> make: *** [build-stamp] Segmentation fault
>
> And I now also get a segfault with an UP kernel, but much later:
>
> 23:45:51 runner system command -> /usr/bin/gcc -g -O2 -g -O0 -fPIC -DPIC  -Idefault -I.. -Idefault/src/include
>   -I../src/include -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include -DUSE_TAGGING
>   ../src/plugins/mp4/mp4ff/mp4util.c -c -o default/src/plugins/mp4/mp4ff/mp4util_1.o
> make: *** [build-stamp] Segmentation fault
>
> It used to build without problems with that same UP kernel.
>
> This may be unrelated to NPTL though as there've been various other updates.

This is 9th on my list of things to look at. I can reproduce this on
systems with or without NPTL, and with or without SMP. This has
something to do with python. If this becomes a blocking issue please
email me.

Cheers,
Carlos.


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[Carlos O'Donell-2]

On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 6:57 PM, Frans Pop <elendil@...> wrote:

> Domenico Andreoli wrote:
>> i had to downgrade libstdc++-4.4 to 4.4.2-1, which indeed was updated
>> today. the build of apt died during the g++ autoconf test but later
>> builds died elsewhere.
>
> I ran into the same issue today. Both apt and aptitude started segfaulting
> after upgrading libstdc++6 from 4.4.2-1 to 4.4.2-2.
> After downgrading that plus three related packages it all worked again.
>
> I see you filed #554574 for this. Thanks.

In general how does this happen? For example the eglibc builds will
fail if the failure list doesn't match the test results. Does the
debian libstdc++6 package (or whichever package produces the library,
gcc?) get uploaded without testing or without comparing the test to a
list of known xfails?

Cheers,
Carlos.


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