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Streblospio shrubsol..ei..ii

by Vasily Radashevsky :: Rate this Message:

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Dear all,
   
    Buchanan (1890) described new spionid worms from England and called them after a person who collected the worms, Mr. Shrubsole, as Hekaterobranchus shrubsolii (later referred to as Streblospio shrubsolii).
    "shrubsolii", with double "i" at the end, has widely been accepted by taxonomists and was also spelled this way by Olga Hartman (1959) in her " Catalogue of the Polychaetous Annelids of the World".
    My question is should we continue using this incorrect spelling or change the name to "shrubsolei", as it is required by the ICZN?
   
    Waiting for opinions!
    Vasily Radashevsky

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by Geoff Read :: Rate this Message:

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>>> On 10/05/2008 at 9:11 p.m., Vasily Radashevsky <radashevsky@...>  
>     Buchanan (1890) described new spionid worms from England and called them
> after a person who collected the worms, Mr. Shrubsole, as Hekaterobranchus
> shrubsolii (later referred to as Streblospio shrubsolii).
>     "shrubsolii", with double "i" at the end, has widely been accepted by
> taxonomists and was also spelled this way by Olga Hartman (1959) in her "
> Catalogue of the Polychaetous Annelids of the World".
>     My question is should we continue using this incorrect spelling or
> change the name to "shrubsolei", as it is required by the ICZN?
>    
>     Waiting for opinions!

Dear Vasily,

Who are we to give an opinion if it is indeed a mandatory change under the current ICZN code articles? Someone will use 'shrubsolei' and there is no going back. Of course we can ignore the change, but some smart referee will point out the error of our ways.

One could give an opinion on whether it is in general wise or useful still to require grammar-based changes to the text strings devised by original authors, text strings serving only as  human-friendly identifier tags for each entity, the entities as in this case possibly having a considerable literature over 100 years. So I will - it is neither. But since I am not a S. shrubsolii investigator this instance is not going to have any effect on me. If I were I would soon accommodate to the change.

Cheers,

Geoff









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RE: Streblospio shrubsol..ei..ii

by Andy Mackie :: Rate this Message:

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Vasily, Geoff

As I understand it, Buchanan has named the species for Shrubsole fafter latinising his name to Shrubsolius.  The specific name would then correctly be shrubsolii.

If the name wasn't first latinised then shrubsolei would be correct.

I see can no reason to change the original name shrubsolii. See articles 31.1.1 & 33.4 of the code

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RE: Streblospio shrubsol..ei..ii

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Dear all,

         Hekaterobranchus shrubsolii Buchanan, 1890, was published after the “British Association Code” of 1842, but before the “Regles internationales de la Nomenclature zoologique” of 1905 and the first edition of the “International Code of Zoological Nomenclature” (1961). One could argue, therefore, that Buchanan was not formally bound by any rules when she erected the name.

 

Personally, I am in favour of stability in nomenclature. Changing the name of a species from H. shrubsolii to H. shrubsolei after 118 years would mean that inexperienced people looking up the new version on the internet might miss most of the available information for the species. Also, the way I read the rules, they say that the name should not change.

 

If the name were to be erected today, it would certainly come under rule 31.1.2 of the fourth edition of the “International Code of Zoological Nomenclature” (1999), which points to the name being shrubsolei (although the example given in Article 31 suggests the original author of the name could drop the letter e if she wanted).

 

However, Article 32.5 lists “Spellings that must be corrected”, and this case is not covered therein (Incorrect ………… latinization ………… not to be considered inadvertent errors).

 

Article 33 states “The correction of an incorrect original spelling in accordance with Article 32.5 is a justified emendation ……………………… Any other emendation is an unjustified emendation ……………………”.

 

So, even though nowadays it would count as an “incorrect original spelling”, my opinion is that it should not be changed. I hope this helps!

 

Alex Muir.

 

P.S. Changing the subject slightly, Hartmann-Schroder synonymised Streblospio shrubsolii of Fauvel (1927), Friedrich (1940), Hartmann-Schroder (1971) and Kirkegaard (1996) with Streblospio benedicti Webster, 1879.

 

 

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Dear all,

   

    Buchanan (1890) described new spionid worms from England and called them after a person who collected the worms, Mr. Shrubsole, as Hekaterobranchus shrubsolii (later referred to as Streblospio shrubsolii).

    "shrubsolii", with double "i" at the end, has widely been accepted by taxonomists and was also spelled this way by Olga Hartman (1959) in her "Catalogue of the Polychaetous Annelids of the World".

    My question is should we continue using this incorrect spelling or change the name to "shrubsolei", as it is required by the ICZN?

   

    Waiting for opinions!

    Vasily Radashevsky

 

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