Stuck trying to reinstall Emacs 23.0.92 and setup dying each time

[KARR, DAVID (ATTCINW)]

I had set up Cygwin yesterday with the experimental Emacs 23.0.92.  I
had done other updates after that, forgetting the fact that since I'm
using an experimental package, I have to set the Emacs-related pages to
"Keep".  I'm now in a state where I have the 23.0.92 executable, but
with /usr/share/emacs/21.2.  So, now I'm trying to run setup again to
reinstall 23.0.92, or uninstall it, or anything.  No matter what I do,
setup dies hard, requiring a forced kill from task manager.

What can I do to clean up from this situation?

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[Jim Reisert AD1C]

As far as 1.7 is concerned, Emacs 23.0.92 is *not* an experimental
release.  Uncheck the experimental box, then install the software.

- Jim

On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:20 AM, KARR, DAVID (ATTCINW)<dk068x@...> wrote:

> I had set up Cygwin yesterday with the experimental Emacs 23.0.92.  I
> had done other updates after that, forgetting the fact that since I'm
> using an experimental package, I have to set the Emacs-related pages to
> "Keep".  I'm now in a state where I have the 23.0.92 executable, but
> with /usr/share/emacs/21.2.  So, now I'm trying to run setup again to
> reinstall 23.0.92, or uninstall it, or anything.  No matter what I do,
> setup dies hard, requiring a forced kill from task manager.
>
> What can I do to clean up from this situation?

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[KARR, DAVID (ATTCINW)]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-owner@... [mailto:cygwin-owner@...] On
> Behalf Of Jim Reisert AD1C
> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 10:15 AM
> To: cygwin@...
> Subject: Re: Stuck trying to reinstall Emacs 23.0.92 and setup dying
> each time
>
> As far as 1.7 is concerned, Emacs 23.0.92 is *not* an experimental
> release.  Uncheck the experimental box, then install the software.

Sorry, I should have made that clear.  I'm still on 1.5.  I'm not ready to make the jump to 1.7 yet.

> On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 10:20 AM, KARR, DAVID (ATTCINW)<dk068x@...>
> wrote:
>
> > I had set up Cygwin yesterday with the experimental Emacs 23.0.92.  I
> > had done other updates after that, forgetting the fact that since I'm
> > using an experimental package, I have to set the Emacs-related pages
> to
> > "Keep".  I'm now in a state where I have the 23.0.92 executable, but
> > with /usr/share/emacs/21.2.  So, now I'm trying to run setup again to
> > reinstall 23.0.92, or uninstall it, or anything.  No matter what I
> do,
> > setup dies hard, requiring a forced kill from task manager.
> >
> > What can I do to clean up from this situation?
>
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[Ken Brown-6]

On 7/1/2009 12:20 PM, KARR, DAVID (ATTCINW) wrote:
> I had set up Cygwin yesterday with the experimental Emacs 23.0.92.  I
> had done other updates after that, forgetting the fact that since I'm
> using an experimental package, I have to set the Emacs-related pages to
> "Keep".  I'm now in a state where I have the 23.0.92 executable, but
> with /usr/share/emacs/21.2.  So, now I'm trying to run setup again to
> reinstall 23.0.92, or uninstall it, or anything.  No matter what I do,
> setup dies hard, requiring a forced kill from task manager.
>
> What can I do to clean up from this situation?

Does http://sourceware.org/ml/cygwin/2008-04/msg00065.html help?  The
bug discussed there was supposed to have been fixed
(http://sourceware.org/ml/cygwin/2008-08/msg00128.html), but it wouldn't
hurt to see if that's the problem.

Ken

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[KARR, DAVID (ATTCINW)]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-owner@... [mailto:cygwin-owner@...] On
> Behalf Of Ken Brown
> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:42 PM
> To: cygwin@...
> Subject: Re: Stuck trying to reinstall Emacs 23.0.92 and setup dying
> each time
>
> On 7/1/2009 12:20 PM, KARR, DAVID (ATTCINW) wrote:
> > I had set up Cygwin yesterday with the experimental Emacs 23.0.92.

I
> > had done other updates after that, forgetting the fact that since
I'm
> > using an experimental package, I have to set the Emacs-related pages
> to
> > "Keep".  I'm now in a state where I have the 23.0.92 executable, but
> > with /usr/share/emacs/21.2.  So, now I'm trying to run setup again
to

> > reinstall 23.0.92, or uninstall it, or anything.  No matter what I
> do,
> > setup dies hard, requiring a forced kill from task manager.
> >
> > What can I do to clean up from this situation?
>
> Does http://sourceware.org/ml/cygwin/2008-04/msg00065.html help?  The
> bug discussed there was supposed to have been fixed
> (http://sourceware.org/ml/cygwin/2008-08/msg00128.html), but it
> wouldn't
> hurt to see if that's the problem.

Hmm, well it's a little hard to tell.  It's clear it's not exactly the
same thing, because my copy of "/etc/setup/cygrunsrv.lst.gz" isn't
corrupted, it simply doesn't exist.  Does that imply anything?

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[Ken Brown-6]

On 7/1/2009 5:31 PM, KARR, DAVID (ATTCINW) wrote:

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: cygwin-owner@... [mailto:cygwin-owner@...] On
>> Behalf Of Ken Brown
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:42 PM
>> To: cygwin@...
>> Subject: Re: Stuck trying to reinstall Emacs 23.0.92 and setup dying
>> each time
>>
>> On 7/1/2009 12:20 PM, KARR, DAVID (ATTCINW) wrote:
>>> I had set up Cygwin yesterday with the experimental Emacs 23.0.92.
> I
>>> had done other updates after that, forgetting the fact that since
> I'm
>>> using an experimental package, I have to set the Emacs-related pages
>> to
>>> "Keep".  I'm now in a state where I have the 23.0.92 executable, but
>>> with /usr/share/emacs/21.2.  So, now I'm trying to run setup again
> to
>>> reinstall 23.0.92, or uninstall it, or anything.  No matter what I
>> do,
>>> setup dies hard, requiring a forced kill from task manager.
>>>
>>> What can I do to clean up from this situation?
>> Does http://sourceware.org/ml/cygwin/2008-04/msg00065.html help?  The
>> bug discussed there was supposed to have been fixed
>> (http://sourceware.org/ml/cygwin/2008-08/msg00128.html), but it
>> wouldn't
>> hurt to see if that's the problem.
>
> Hmm, well it's a little hard to tell.  It's clear it's not exactly the
> same thing, because my copy of "/etc/setup/cygrunsrv.lst.gz" isn't
> corrupted, it simply doesn't exist.

cygrunsrv happened to be the package that the poster of that message was
having trouble with.  You should look at /etc/setup/emacs*.lst.gz.

Ken

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[KARR, DAVID (ATTCINW)]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-owner@... [mailto:cygwin-owner@...] On
> Behalf Of Ken Brown
> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:23 PM
> Cc: cygwin@...
> Subject: Re: Stuck trying to reinstall Emacs 23.0.92 and setup dying
> each time
>
> On 7/1/2009 5:31 PM, KARR, DAVID (ATTCINW) wrote:
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: cygwin-owner@... [mailto:cygwin-owner@...] On
> >> Behalf Of Ken Brown
> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:42 PM
> >> To: cygwin@...
> >> Subject: Re: Stuck trying to reinstall Emacs 23.0.92 and setup

dying

> >> each time
> >>
> >> On 7/1/2009 12:20 PM, KARR, DAVID (ATTCINW) wrote:
> >>> I had set up Cygwin yesterday with the experimental Emacs 23.0.92.
> > I
> >>> had done other updates after that, forgetting the fact that since
> > I'm
> >>> using an experimental package, I have to set the Emacs-related
> pages
> >> to
> >>> "Keep".  I'm now in a state where I have the 23.0.92 executable,
> but
> >>> with /usr/share/emacs/21.2.  So, now I'm trying to run setup again
> > to
> >>> reinstall 23.0.92, or uninstall it, or anything.  No matter what I
> >> do,
> >>> setup dies hard, requiring a forced kill from task manager.
> >>>
> >>> What can I do to clean up from this situation?
> >> Does http://sourceware.org/ml/cygwin/2008-04/msg00065.html help?
> The
> >> bug discussed there was supposed to have been fixed
> >> (http://sourceware.org/ml/cygwin/2008-08/msg00128.html), but it
> >> wouldn't
> >> hurt to see if that's the problem.
> >
> > Hmm, well it's a little hard to tell.  It's clear it's not exactly
> the
> > same thing, because my copy of "/etc/setup/cygrunsrv.lst.gz" isn't
> > corrupted, it simply doesn't exist.
>
> cygrunsrv happened to be the package that the poster of that message
> was
> having trouble with.  You should look at /etc/setup/emacs*.lst.gz.

Ok, so that shows that emacs-el.lst.gz was corrupted.  I deleted it,
then reran setup. I clicked "Exp", then "View", then scrolled down to
the three "emacs*" lines and set them all to "Reinstall" (the "Current"
column says "23.0.92-2") and clicked "Next".  It chugged for a bit, last
displaying "Uninstalling emacs-el", then reported "setup.exe has
encountered ...".  After dismissing the dialog, I looked at /etc/setup
again, and the corrupted "emacs-el.lst.gz" was there again.  I also
checked to see whether any other "*.lst.gz" files were corrupted, and
there were none.

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[Mark Harig]

Wed, 1 Jul 2009 15:37:09 -0700 David Karr wrote:

> Ok, so that shows that emacs-el.lst.gz was corrupted.  I deleted it,
> then reran setup. I clicked "Exp", then "View", then scrolled down to
> the three "emacs*" lines and set them all to "Reinstall" (the "Current"
> column says "23.0.92-2") and clicked "Next".  It chugged for a bit, last
> displaying "Uninstalling emacs-el", then reported "setup.exe has
> encountered ...".  After dismissing the dialog, I looked at /etc/setup
> again, and the corrupted "emacs-el.lst.gz" was there again.  I also
> checked to see whether any other "*.lst.gz" files were corrupted, and
> there were none.
>  

This message might be of some help to you:

http://sourceware.org/ml/cygwin/2008-06/msg00563.html

In particular, you could try downloading:

http://rapidshare.com/files/98717404/setup.exe

Perhaps one of the setup.exe experts could remark on
the advisability of trying this.  I used it with success
once in the past when my cygwin 1.5 installation became
corrupted.


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[Ken Brown-6]

On 7/1/2009 6:37 PM, KARR, DAVID (ATTCINW) wrote:
> Ok, so that shows that emacs-el.lst.gz was corrupted.  I deleted it,
> then reran setup. I clicked "Exp", then "View", then scrolled down to
> the three "emacs*" lines and set them all to "Reinstall" (the "Current"
> column says "23.0.92-2") and clicked "Next".  It chugged for a bit, last
> displaying "Uninstalling emacs-el", then reported "setup.exe has
> encountered ...".  After dismissing the dialog, I looked at /etc/setup
> again, and the corrupted "emacs-el.lst.gz" was there again.  I also
> checked to see whether any other "*.lst.gz" files were corrupted, and
> there were none.

Sorry, but I don't have a clue why that file is corrupted.  Could this
be http://cygwin.com/faq/faq.using.html#faq.using.bloda?  Here's a
recent example where that was suspected, but I don't know if the poster
ever solved the problem:

   http://sourceware.org/ml/cygwin/2009-05/msg00221.html

Ken

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[KARR, DAVID (ATTCINW)]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-owner@... [mailto:cygwin-owner@...] On
> Behalf Of Mark Harig
> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 4:43 PM
> To: cygwin@...
> Subject: RE: Stuck trying to reinstall Emacs 23.0.92 and setup dying
> each time
>
> Wed, 1 Jul 2009 15:37:09 -0700 David Karr wrote:
> > Ok, so that shows that emacs-el.lst.gz was corrupted.  I deleted it,
> > then reran setup. I clicked "Exp", then "View", then scrolled down to
> > the three "emacs*" lines and set them all to "Reinstall" (the
> "Current"
> > column says "23.0.92-2") and clicked "Next".  It chugged for a bit,
> last
> > displaying "Uninstalling emacs-el", then reported "setup.exe has
> > encountered ...".  After dismissing the dialog, I looked at
> /etc/setup
> > again, and the corrupted "emacs-el.lst.gz" was there again.  I also
> > checked to see whether any other "*.lst.gz" files were corrupted, and
> > there were none.
> >
>
> This message might be of some help to you:
>
> http://sourceware.org/ml/cygwin/2008-06/msg00563.html
>
> In particular, you could try downloading:
>
> http://rapidshare.com/files/98717404/setup.exe

If I understand this correctly, this modified version (over a year old now) only deals with not leaving the corrupted .gz file when setup fails.  It doesn't address the failure of setup.  It seems to me that the corrupted .gz file is just a symptom of another problem that may or not be addressed by this modified setup.exe.

I guess I'll try it anyway, as I'm sure not getting anywhere yet.

[Ken Brown-6]

On 7/1/2009 6:37 PM, KARR, DAVID (ATTCINW) wrote:
> Ok, so that shows that emacs-el.lst.gz was corrupted.  I deleted it,
> then reran setup. I clicked "Exp", then "View", then scrolled down to
> the three "emacs*" lines and set them all to "Reinstall" (the "Current"
> column says "23.0.92-2") and clicked "Next".  It chugged for a bit, last
> displaying "Uninstalling emacs-el", then reported "setup.exe has
> encountered ...".  After dismissing the dialog, I looked at /etc/setup
> again, and the corrupted "emacs-el.lst.gz" was there again.  I also
> checked to see whether any other "*.lst.gz" files were corrupted, and
> there were none.

One other thought:  You don't actually need emacs-el.  This just
provides source files for the emacs libraries, and you can always get
them from the emacs source if you find you need them later.  Can you
reinstall emacs and emacs-X11 and just "keep" emacs-el?

Ken

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[KARR, DAVID (ATTCINW)]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: cygwin-owner@... [mailto:cygwin-owner@...] On
> Behalf Of Ken Brown
> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 4:58 PM
> To: cygwin@...
> Subject: Re: Stuck trying to reinstall Emacs 23.0.92 and setup dying
> each time
>
> On 7/1/2009 6:37 PM, KARR, DAVID (ATTCINW) wrote:
> > Ok, so that shows that emacs-el.lst.gz was corrupted.  I deleted it,
> > then reran setup. I clicked "Exp", then "View", then scrolled down

to
> > the three "emacs*" lines and set them all to "Reinstall" (the
> "Current"
> > column says "23.0.92-2") and clicked "Next".  It chugged for a bit,
> last
> > displaying "Uninstalling emacs-el", then reported "setup.exe has
> > encountered ...".  After dismissing the dialog, I looked at
> /etc/setup
> > again, and the corrupted "emacs-el.lst.gz" was there again.  I also
> > checked to see whether any other "*.lst.gz" files were corrupted,
and
> > there were none.
>
> One other thought:  You don't actually need emacs-el.  This just
> provides source files for the emacs libraries, and you can always get
> them from the emacs source if you find you need them later.  Can you
> reinstall emacs and emacs-X11 and just "keep" emacs-el?

HA!  That did it.  Quite weird.  It sounds to me like there's something
about "emacs-el" that is corrupted at the source, rather than some
problem in setup.exe.

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[Ken Brown-6]

On 7/1/2009 8:04 PM, KARR, DAVID (ATTCINW) wrote:
>> One other thought:  You don't actually need emacs-el.  This just
>> provides source files for the emacs libraries, and you can always get
>> them from the emacs source if you find you need them later.  Can you
>> reinstall emacs and emacs-X11 and just "keep" emacs-el?
>
> HA!  That did it.  Quite weird.  It sounds to me like there's something
> about "emacs-el" that is corrupted at the source, rather than some
> problem in setup.exe.

I don't think so.  I just reinstalled emacs-el-23.0.92-2 without a problem.

Ken

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