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	Sugar on a Stick - and OLPCsound by Art Hunkins :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message I've been enjoying learning and working with Sugar on a Stick, which is Sugar (the OLPC's) software loaded onto a 1gb USB drive. Booting from this "stick" transforms any Mac, Linux or PC effectively into an OLPC (running Sugar). Makes a handy development system. At any rate, my new OurMusic activity runs fine on the OLPC, but aborts on SoaS (Sugar on a Stick). I then ran Victor's Waves activity, which exhibits the same behavior as did mine. Interestingly, the TamTam activities run fine on both systems. Also, the version of Csound, 5.08.91 is identical. (Probably irrelevent info: the version of libsndfile for SoaS is 1.0.17; however, between Sugar v 8.1 and 8.2.1 I note that the versions changed from 1.0.17-2.fc7 to 1.0.17-3.fc9 (Fedora core changing from 7 to 9).) I fear some incompatibility involving libsndfile and the Csound API, and perhaps csndsugui? At any rate, those of us using these tools with SoaS, are presently dead in the water. Below is the complete log generated by Waves.activity. Art Hunkins /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/sugar/util.py:25: DeprecationWarning: the sha module is deprecated; use the hashlib module instead import sha Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/sugar-activity", line 21, in <module> main.main() File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/sugar/activity/main.py", line 105, in main module = __import__(module_name) File "/home/liveuser/Activities/Waves.activity/waves.py", line 1, in <module> import csndsugui File "/home/liveuser/Activities/Waves.activity/csndsugui.py", line 36, in <module> import csnd File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/csnd.py", line 7, in <module> import _csnd ImportError: /usr/lib/libcsnd.so.5.1: undefined symbol: csoundGetInputBuffer ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Csound-devel mailing list Csound-devel@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel
	Re: Sugar on a Stick - and OLPCsound by Art Hunkins :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message Victor, Brian and Mike G. - I'd like to ask again regarding this SoaS log, and what it suggests about the crash of my OurMusic activity. The version of Csound is 5.08.91, libsndfile is 1.0.17. And as you can see Python 2.6 and libcsnd.so.5.1 are referenced in the log. Is the difficulty incompatible versions of Python and/or libsndfile/libcsnd.so.5.1? A member of the sugar-devel list suggested that the problem might well be solved with Csound5.10 (Fedora 11) which will be available through yum update later this week. (It's apparently ready to go.) What do you imagine? The log: /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/sugar/util.py:25: DeprecationWarning: the sha module is deprecated; use the hashlib module instead import sha Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/sugar-activity", line 21, in <module> main.main() File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/sugar/activity/main.py", line 105, in main module = __import__(module_name) File "/home/liveuser/Activities/OurMusic.activity/ourmusic.py", line 41, in <module> import csndsugui File "/home/liveuser/Activities/OurMusic.activity/csndsugui.py", line 36, in <module> import csnd File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/csnd.py", line 7, in <module> import _csnd ImportError: /usr/lib/libcsnd.so.5.1: undefined symbol: csoundGetInputBuffer Thanks - Art Hunkins ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Csound-devel mailing list Csound-devel@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel
	Re: Sugar on a Stick - and OLPCsound by Victor Lazzarini :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message The message is strange, but it does not say there is a Python version mismatch. However, having said that, the 5.08.91 rpm was built with 2.5 (unless what you have there is another build that somehow uses 2.6). What the message says is that the library module Python tried to load does not have one of the API functions. The reason for this I don't know. Victor ----- Original Message ----- From: Art Hunkins <abhunkin@...> Date: Monday, June 29, 2009 10:19 pm Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] Sugar on a Stick - and OLPCsound To: csound-devel@... > Victor, Brian and Mike G. - > > I'd like to ask again regarding this SoaS log, and what it > suggests about > the crash of my OurMusic activity. > > The version of Csound is 5.08.91, libsndfile is 1.0.17. And as > you can see > Python 2.6 and libcsnd.so.5.1 are referenced in the log. > > Is the difficulty incompatible versions of Python and/or > libsndfile/libcsnd.so.5.1? > > A member of the sugar-devel list suggested that the problem > might well be > solved with Csound5.10 (Fedora 11) which will be available > through yum > update later this week. (It's apparently ready to go.) What do > you imagine? > > The log: > > /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/sugar/util.py:25: > DeprecationWarning: the > sha module is deprecated; use the hashlib module instead > > import sha > > Traceback (most recent call last): > > File "/usr/bin/sugar-activity", line 21, in <module> > > main.main() > > File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/sugar/activity/main.py", > line 105, in > main > > module = __import__(module_name) > > File "/home/liveuser/Activities/OurMusic.activity/ourmusic.py", > line 41, in > <module> > > import csndsugui > > File "/home/liveuser/Activities/OurMusic.activity/csndsugui.py", > line 36, in > <module> > > import csnd > > File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/csnd.py", line 7, in > <module> > import _csnd > > ImportError: /usr/lib/libcsnd.so.5.1: undefined symbol: > csoundGetInputBuffer > > > Thanks - > > Art Hunkins > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------- > _______________________________________________ > Csound-devel mailing list > Csound-devel@... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel Dr Victor Lazzarini, Senior Lecturer, Dept. of Music, National University of Ireland, Maynooth ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Csound-devel mailing list Csound-devel@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel
	Re: Sugar on a Stick - and OLPCsound by Art Hunkins :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message Some parts of this message have been removed. Learn more about Nabble's security policy. I just noticed that the current OLPC build includes Python 2.5, whereas SoaS includes Python 2.6 Csound 5.08.91 is currently in both. Wouldn't this explain why 5.08.91 doesn't work on SoaS? And why 5.10 should? Art Hunkins ----- Original Message ----- From: Victor.Lazzarini@... To: csound-devel@... Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 5:38 PM Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] Sugar on a Stick - and OLPCsound The message is strange, but it does not say there is a Python version mismatch. However, having said that, the 5.08.91 rpm was built with 2.5 (unless what you have there is another build that somehow uses 2.6). What the message says is that the library module Python tried to load does not have one of the API functions. The reason for this I don't know. Victor ----- Original Message ----- From: Art Hunkins <abhunkin@...> Date: Monday, June 29, 2009 10:19 pm Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] Sugar on a Stick - and OLPCsound To: csound-devel@... > Victor, Brian and Mike G. - > > I'd like to ask again regarding this SoaS log, and what it > suggests about > the crash of my OurMusic activity. > > The version of Csound is 5.08.91, libsndfile is 1.0.17. And as > you can see > Python 2.6 and libcsnd.so.5.1 are referenced in the log. > > Is the difficulty incompatible versions of Python and/or > libsndfile/libcsnd.so.5.1? > > A member of the sugar-devel list suggested that the problem > might well be > solved with Csound5.10 (Fedora 11) which will be available > through yum > update later this week. (It's apparently ready to go.) What do > you imagine? > > The log: > > /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/sugar/util.py:25: > DeprecationWarning: the > sha module is deprecated; use the hashlib module instead > > import sha > > Traceback (most recent call last): > > File "/usr/bin/sugar-activity", line 21, in <module> > > main.main() > > File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/sugar/activity/main.py", > line 105, in > main > > module = __import__(module_name) > > File "/home/liveuser/Activities/OurMusic.activity/ourmusic.py", > line 41, in > <module> > > import csndsugui > > File "/home/liveuser/Activities/OurMusic.activity/csndsugui.py", > line 36, in > <module> > > import csnd > > File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/csnd.py", line 7, in > <module> > import _csnd > > ImportError: /usr/lib/libcsnd.so.5.1: undefined symbol: > csoundGetInputBuffer > > > Thanks - > > Art Hunkins > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------- > _______________________________________________ > Csound-devel mailing list > Csound-devel@... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel Dr Victor Lazzarini, Senior Lecturer, Dept. of Music, National University of Ireland, Maynooth ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Csound-devel mailing list Csound-devel@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Csound-devel mailing list Csound-devel@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel
	Re: Sugar on a Stick - and OLPCsound by Victor Lazzarini :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message Some parts of this message have been removed. Learn more about Nabble's security policy. Because the 5.10 rpm has a python2.6 dependency. But that might be the case for 5.08 too (I am not sure). ----- Original Message ----- From: abhunkin@... To: csound-devel@... Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 2:22 AM Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] Sugar on a Stick - and OLPCsound I just noticed that the current OLPC build includes Python 2.5, whereas SoaS includes Python 2.6 Csound 5.08.91 is currently in both. Wouldn't this explain why 5.08.91 doesn't work on SoaS? And why 5.10 should? Art Hunkins ----- Original Message ----- From: Victor.Lazzarini@... To: csound-devel@... Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 5:38 PM Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] Sugar on a Stick - and OLPCsound The message is strange, but it does not say there is a Python version mismatch. However, having said that, the 5.08.91 rpm was built with 2.5 (unless what you have there is another build that somehow uses 2.6). What the message says is that the library module Python tried to load does not have one of the API functions. The reason for this I don't know. Victor ----- Original Message ----- From: Art Hunkins <abhunkin@...> Date: Monday, June 29, 2009 10:19 pm Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] Sugar on a Stick - and OLPCsound To: csound-devel@... > Victor, Brian and Mike G. - > > I'd like to ask again regarding this SoaS log, and what it > suggests about > the crash of my OurMusic activity. > > The version of Csound is 5.08.91, libsndfile is 1.0.17. And as > you can see > Python 2.6 and libcsnd.so.5.1 are referenced in the log. > > Is the difficulty incompatible versions of Python and/or > libsndfile/libcsnd.so.5.1? > > A member of the sugar-devel list suggested that the problem > might well be > solved with Csound5.10 (Fedora 11) which will be available > through yum > update later this week. (It's apparently ready to go.) What do > you imagine? > > The log: > > /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/sugar/util.py:25: > DeprecationWarning: the > sha module is deprecated; use the hashlib module instead > > import sha > > Traceback (most recent call last): > > File "/usr/bin/sugar-activity", line 21, in <module> > > main.main() > > File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/sugar/activity/main.py", > line 105, in > main > > module = __import__(module_name) > > File "/home/liveuser/Activities/OurMusic.activity/ourmusic.py", > line 41, in > <module> > > import csndsugui > > File "/home/liveuser/Activities/OurMusic.activity/csndsugui.py", > line 36, in > <module> > > import csnd > > File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/csnd.py", line 7, in > <module> > import _csnd > > ImportError: /usr/lib/libcsnd.so.5.1: undefined symbol: > csoundGetInputBuffer > > > Thanks - > > Art Hunkins > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------- > _______________________________________________ > Csound-devel mailing list > Csound-devel@... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel Dr Victor Lazzarini, Senior Lecturer, Dept. of Music, National University of Ireland, Maynooth ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Csound-devel mailing list Csound-devel@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Csound-devel mailing list Csound-devel@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Csound-devel mailing list Csound-devel@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel
	Re: Sugar on a Stick - and OLPCsound by Art Hunkins :: Rate this Message: Reply to Author \| View Threaded \| Show Only this Message Some parts of this message have been removed. Learn more about Nabble's security policy. Here's the next chapter in the saga. Please note that this is not the Windows installation saga; it's the Linux/Sugar installation saga. In our last episode, we noted that Csound5.08 was (apparently?) incompatible with python2.6. At least this seemed a plausible explanation from the error log we saw. So, now Csound5.10 is available on Fedora(11) for download to SoaS. First, I try update csound; "can't find any csound". Second, install csound; it tries, but then says, "can't because it interferes with olpcsound" (OK, different name!) Third, erase olpcsound; good Fourth, install csound; good Then I run my Activity; it now crashes with the similar, but not exact, error log below. I thought perhaps I'd better start from scratch and did (reformat USB drive, etc). Thought probably the new SoaS iso incorporated Csound5.10. But no, I needed to essentially repeat the above steps, and ended with the same crash. The log: (any new ideas please?) /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/sugar/util.py:25: DeprecationWarning: the sha module is deprecated; use the hashlib module instead import sha Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/sugar-activity", line 21, in <module> main.main() File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/sugar/activity/main.py", line 105, in main module = __import__(module_name) File "/home/liveuser/Activities/OurMusic.activity/ourmusic.py", line 41, in <module> import csndsugui File "/home/liveuser/Activities/OurMusic.activity/csndsugui.py", line 36, in <module> import csnd ImportError: No module named csnd Art Hunkins ----- Original Message ----- From: Victor.Lazzarini@... To: abhunkin@... ; csound-devel@... Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:36 PM Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] Sugar on a Stick - and OLPCsound Because the 5.10 rpm has a python2.6 dependency. But that might be the case for 5.08 too (I am not sure). ----- Original Message ----- From: abhunkin@... To: csound-devel@... Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 2:22 AM Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] Sugar on a Stick - and OLPCsound I just noticed that the current OLPC build includes Python 2.5, whereas SoaS includes Python 2.6 Csound 5.08.91 is currently in both. Wouldn't this explain why 5.08.91 doesn't work on SoaS? And why 5.10 should? Art Hunkins ----- Original Message ----- From: Victor.Lazzarini@... To: csound-devel@... Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 5:38 PM Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] Sugar on a Stick - and OLPCsound The message is strange, but it does not say there is a Python version mismatch. However, having said that, the 5.08.91 rpm was built with 2.5 (unless what you have there is another build that somehow uses 2.6). What the message says is that the library module Python tried to load does not have one of the API functions. The reason for this I don't know. Victor ----- Original Message ----- From: Art Hunkins <abhunkin@...> Date: Monday, June 29, 2009 10:19 pm Subject: Re: [Cs-dev] Sugar on a Stick - and OLPCsound To: csound-devel@... > Victor, Brian and Mike G. - > > I'd like to ask again regarding this SoaS log, and what it > suggests about > the crash of my OurMusic activity. > > The version of Csound is 5.08.91, libsndfile is 1.0.17. And as > you can see > Python 2.6 and libcsnd.so.5.1 are referenced in the log. > > Is the difficulty incompatible versions of Python and/or > libsndfile/libcsnd.so.5.1? > > A member of the sugar-devel list suggested that the problem > might well be > solved with Csound5.10 (Fedora 11) which will be available > through yum > update later this week. (It's apparently ready to go.) What do > you imagine? > > The log: > > /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/sugar/util.py:25: > DeprecationWarning: the > sha module is deprecated; use the hashlib module instead > > import sha > > Traceback (most recent call last): > > File "/usr/bin/sugar-activity", line 21, in <module> > > main.main() > > File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/sugar/activity/main.py", > line 105, in > main > > module = __import__(module_name) > > File "/home/liveuser/Activities/OurMusic.activity/ourmusic.py", > line 41, in > <module> > > import csndsugui > > File "/home/liveuser/Activities/OurMusic.activity/csndsugui.py", > line 36, in > <module> > > import csnd > > File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/csnd.py", line 7, in > <module> > import _csnd > > ImportError: /usr/lib/libcsnd.so.5.1: undefined symbol: > csoundGetInputBuffer > > > Thanks - > > Art Hunkins > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------- > _______________________________________________ > Csound-devel mailing list > Csound-devel@... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel Dr Victor Lazzarini, Senior Lecturer, Dept. of Music, National University of Ireland, Maynooth ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Csound-devel mailing list Csound-devel@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Csound-devel mailing list Csound-devel@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Csound-devel mailing list Csound-devel@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Csound-devel mailing list Csound-devel@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/csound-devel