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by john_re :: Rate this Message:

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Get a VOIP headset, Install VOIP client SW, & join the global Ekiga
meeting this
Sunday Sept 20, 12N-3P Pacific Daylight Savings Time (UTC-8),
 3P-6P Eastern, (7P-10P UTC?)
http://sites.google.com/site/berkeleytip/remote-attendance

Lots of great, exciting new things for Ekiga users,
as we start Year 2 of the Global FSW GNU(Linux)/BSD,
Free HW, Free Culture, TIP meetings:
TIP = Talks, Installfest, Project/Programing Party.
Educational, Productive, Social.

Join with the meeting from your home via VOIP,
or create a local meeting at your local college wifi cafe.


=====
Quick announcement.  We're starting up BTIP year 2, for the 2009-10
school year.
http://sites.google.com/site/berkeleytip/home

September Videos: Puppet language, Python mystery talks, CampKDE
http://sites.google.com/site/berkeleytip/talk-videos

This year 2 we'll be focusing on
1) Inviting UC Berkeley students via poster/flyers
2) Getting local meetings going at California colleges
3) Getting invitations out to more American countries
4) Getting topic groups (OLPC, Python, KDE & GNOME, BSD, Ubuntu, etc)
having simultaneous meetings.
5) Improving our VOIP server, perhaps upgrading to FreeSwitch.

==
Come join the Sept 20 Sunday meeting, get on voip, chat, discuss the
videos, work on your own projects & share them with others, help educate
students, & help work on the group projects.

Join #berkeleytip on irc.freenode.net, & we'll help you get your VOIP HW
& SW working. :)

Join the mailing lists & say hi, tell us what you are interested in.
http://groups.google.com/group/BerkTIPGlobal

You are invited to forward this message anywhere it would be welcomed.
:)
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Re: Sunday 20th Global Ekiga Mtg via VOIP - BerkeleyTIP - for forwarding

by Bret Busby :: Rate this Message:

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On Sat, 19 Sep 2009, john_re wrote:

> Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 03:42:08 -0700
> From: john_re <john_re@...>
> Reply-To: Ekiga mailing list <ekiga-list@...>
> To: ekiga-list@...
> Subject: [Ekiga-list] Sunday 20th Global Ekiga Mtg via VOIP - BerkeleyTIP -
>     for forwarding
>
> Get a VOIP headset, Install VOIP client SW, & join the global Ekiga
> meeting this
> Sunday Sept 20, 12N-3P Pacific Daylight Savings Time (UTC-8),
> 3P-6P Eastern, (7P-10P UTC?)
> http://sites.google.com/site/berkeleytip/remote-attendance
>
> Lots of great, exciting new things for Ekiga users,
> as we start Year 2 of the Global FSW GNU(Linux)/BSD,
> Free HW, Free Culture, TIP meetings:
> TIP = Talks, Installfest, Project/Programing Party.
> Educational, Productive, Social.
>
> Join with the meeting from your home via VOIP,
> or create a local meeting at your local college wifi cafe.
>
>
> =====
> Quick announcement.  We're starting up BTIP year 2, for the 2009-10
> school year.
> http://sites.google.com/site/berkeleytip/home
>
> September Videos: Puppet language, Python mystery talks, CampKDE
> http://sites.google.com/site/berkeleytip/talk-videos
>
> This year 2 we'll be focusing on
> 1) Inviting UC Berkeley students via poster/flyers
> 2) Getting local meetings going at California colleges
> 3) Getting invitations out to more American countries
> 4) Getting topic groups (OLPC, Python, KDE & GNOME, BSD, Ubuntu, etc)
> having simultaneous meetings.
> 5) Improving our VOIP server, perhaps upgrading to FreeSwitch.
>
> ==
> Come join the Sept 20 Sunday meeting, get on voip, chat, discuss the
> videos, work on your own projects & share them with others, help educate
> students, & help work on the group projects.
>
> Join #berkeleytip on irc.freenode.net, & we'll help you get your VOIP HW
> & SW working. :)
>
> Join the mailing lists & say hi, tell us what you are interested in.
> http://groups.google.com/group/BerkTIPGlobal
>
> You are invited to forward this message anywhere it would be welcomed.
> :)
>

Ah, if only a version of Ekiga is available, that works with Ubuntu
8.04, that can be installed using the Ubuntu package management
system, ...

I can successfully make test calls, to sip:500@..., using Ekiga
v2.0.12, and I can look at my ugly face, using the Ekiga software in
video mode, but that is about all I can do with it. Ekiga v2.0.12 is the
latest version available via the Ubuntu 8.04 packages repository. I
understand that a later version, something like v3.0, allows the making
and answering, of realtime calls, but that version is not yet available
from the Ubuntu 8.04 packages repository.

--
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
..............

"So once you do know what the question actually is,
  you'll know what the answer means."
- Deep Thought,
   Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
   "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
   A Trilogy In Four Parts",
   written by Douglas Adams,
   published by Pan Books, 1992

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Re: Sunday 20th Global Ekiga Mtg via VOIP - BerkeleyTIP - for forwarding

by Shawn Adams-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Bret

Join in with Ekiga 2.0.12, I still use it - works fine.

If you see me online, give a shout,  you can then look at my ugly face
over video.

:)

field64@...

Best regards,


Bret Busby wrote:

> On Sat, 19 Sep 2009, john_re wrote:
>
>> Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 03:42:08 -0700
>> From: john_re <john_re@...>
>> Reply-To: Ekiga mailing list <ekiga-list@...>
>> To: ekiga-list@...
>> Subject: [Ekiga-list] Sunday 20th Global Ekiga Mtg via VOIP -
>> BerkeleyTIP -
>>     for forwarding
>>
>> Get a VOIP headset, Install VOIP client SW, & join the global Ekiga
>> meeting this
>> Sunday Sept 20, 12N-3P Pacific Daylight Savings Time (UTC-8),
>> 3P-6P Eastern, (7P-10P UTC?)
>> http://sites.google.com/site/berkeleytip/remote-attendance
>>
>> Lots of great, exciting new things for Ekiga users,
>> as we start Year 2 of the Global FSW GNU(Linux)/BSD,
>> Free HW, Free Culture, TIP meetings:
>> TIP = Talks, Installfest, Project/Programing Party.
>> Educational, Productive, Social.
>>
>> Join with the meeting from your home via VOIP,
>> or create a local meeting at your local college wifi cafe.
>>
>>
>> =====
>> Quick announcement.  We're starting up BTIP year 2, for the 2009-10
>> school year.
>> http://sites.google.com/site/berkeleytip/home
>>
>> September Videos: Puppet language, Python mystery talks, CampKDE
>> http://sites.google.com/site/berkeleytip/talk-videos
>>
>> This year 2 we'll be focusing on
>> 1) Inviting UC Berkeley students via poster/flyers
>> 2) Getting local meetings going at California colleges
>> 3) Getting invitations out to more American countries
>> 4) Getting topic groups (OLPC, Python, KDE & GNOME, BSD, Ubuntu, etc)
>> having simultaneous meetings.
>> 5) Improving our VOIP server, perhaps upgrading to FreeSwitch.
>>
>> ==
>> Come join the Sept 20 Sunday meeting, get on voip, chat, discuss the
>> videos, work on your own projects & share them with others, help educate
>> students, & help work on the group projects.
>>
>> Join #berkeleytip on irc.freenode.net, & we'll help you get your VOIP HW
>> & SW working. :)
>>
>> Join the mailing lists & say hi, tell us what you are interested in.
>> http://groups.google.com/group/BerkTIPGlobal
>>
>> You are invited to forward this message anywhere it would be welcomed.
>> :)
>>
>
> Ah, if only a version of Ekiga is available, that works with Ubuntu
> 8.04, that can be installed using the Ubuntu package management system, ...
>
> I can successfully make test calls, to sip:500@..., using Ekiga
> v2.0.12, and I can look at my ugly face, using the Ekiga software in
> video mode, but that is about all I can do with it. Ekiga v2.0.12 is the
> latest version available via the Ubuntu 8.04 packages repository. I
> understand that a later version, something like v3.0, allows the making
> and answering, of realtime calls, but that version is not yet available
> from the Ubuntu 8.04 packages repository.
>
> --
> Bret Busby
> Armadale
> West Australia
> ..............
>
> "So once you do know what the question actually is,
>  you'll know what the answer means."
> - Deep Thought,
>   Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
>   "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
>   A Trilogy In Four Parts",
>   written by Douglas Adams,
>   published by Pan Books, 1992
>
> ....................................................
> _______________________________________________
> ekiga-list mailing list
> ekiga-list@...
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
>


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Re: Sunday 20th Global Ekiga Mtg via VOIP - BerkeleyTIP - for forwarding

by john_re :: Rate this Message:

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On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 12:29:16 +0800 (WST), "Bret Busby" <bret@...> said:

> On Sat, 19 Sep 2009, john_re wrote:
>
> > Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 03:42:08 -0700
> > From: john_re <john_re@...>
> > Reply-To: Ekiga mailing list <ekiga-list@...>
> > To: ekiga-list@...
> > Subject: [Ekiga-list] Sunday 20th Global Ekiga Mtg via VOIP - BerkeleyTIP -
> >     for forwarding
> >
> > Get a VOIP headset, Install VOIP client SW, & join the global Ekiga
> > meeting this
> > Sunday Sept 20, 12N-3P Pacific Daylight Savings Time (UTC-8),
> > 3P-6P Eastern, (7P-10P UTC?)
> > http://sites.google.com/site/berkeleytip/remote-attendance
> >
> > Lots of great, exciting new things for Ekiga users,
> > as we start Year 2 of the Global FSW GNU(Linux)/BSD,
> > Free HW, Free Culture, TIP meetings:
> > TIP = Talks, Installfest, Project/Programing Party.
> > Educational, Productive, Social.
> >...

>
> Ah, if only a version of Ekiga is available, that works with Ubuntu
> 8.04, that can be installed using the Ubuntu package management
> system, ...

I used 804 a long time, then move up to KU 904 - works fine on my laptop & desktop.  If u want to use 804, great - but - tell me why u don't just upgrade to 904? thx.  that should work well.

BTW, join on irc.freenode.net #berkeleytip - that's the fast way to get problems solved & upgrades done, interactively. :)

>
> I can successfully make test calls, to sip:500@..., using Ekiga
> v2.0.12, and I can look at my ugly face, using the Ekiga software in
> video mode, but that is about all I can do with it. Ekiga v2.0.12 is the
> latest version available via the Ubuntu 8.04 packages repository. I
> understand that a later version, something like v3.0, allows the making
> and answering, of realtime calls, but that version is not yet available
> from the Ubuntu 8.04 packages repository.
>
> --
> Bret Busby
> Armadale
> West Australia
> ..............

Love to have an australian join BTIP on voip, or irc.
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Re: Sunday 20th Global Ekiga Mtg via VOIP - BerkeleyTIP - for forwarding

by Bret Busby :: Rate this Message:

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On Mon, 21 Sep 2009, john_re wrote:

> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 16:31:20 -0700
> From: john_re <john_re@...>
> To: Ekiga mailing list <ekiga-list@...>, ekiga-list@...,
>     bret@...
> Cc: BTG <BerkTIPGlobal@...>
> Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] Sunday 20th Global Ekiga Mtg via VOIP - BerkeleyTIP
>     - for forwarding
>
>
> On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 12:29:16 +0800 (WST), "Bret Busby" <bret@...> said:
>> On Sat, 19 Sep 2009, john_re wrote:
>>
>>> Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 03:42:08 -0700
>>> From: john_re <john_re@...>
>>> Reply-To: Ekiga mailing list <ekiga-list@...>
>>> To: ekiga-list@...
>>> Subject: [Ekiga-list] Sunday 20th Global Ekiga Mtg via VOIP - BerkeleyTIP -
>>>     for forwarding
>>>
>>> Get a VOIP headset, Install VOIP client SW, & join the global Ekiga
>>> meeting this
>>> Sunday Sept 20, 12N-3P Pacific Daylight Savings Time (UTC-8),
>>> 3P-6P Eastern, (7P-10P UTC?)
>>> http://sites.google.com/site/berkeleytip/remote-attendance
>>>
>>> Lots of great, exciting new things for Ekiga users,
>>> as we start Year 2 of the Global FSW GNU(Linux)/BSD,
>>> Free HW, Free Culture, TIP meetings:
>>> TIP = Talks, Installfest, Project/Programing Party.
>>> Educational, Productive, Social.
>>> ...
>
>>
>> Ah, if only a version of Ekiga is available, that works with Ubuntu
>> 8.04, that can be installed using the Ubuntu package management
>> system, ...
>
> I used 804 a long time, then move up to KU 904 - works fine on my laptop & desktop.  If u want to use 804, great - but - tell me why u don't just upgrade to 904? thx.  that should work well.
>

Ubuntu 8.04 is the latest Long Term Support version, and so is the
version likely to be the most stable, and which is likely to have the
least problems over time, with system upgrades "into the unknown",
which is what happens with the non-LTS versions.

To me, Ubuntu LTS versions, relative to the later versions that are not
LTS, is like the way that the Debian stable versions used to be (but not
the way it is now, where Debian stable, now, apparently, means Debian
testing, especially where a system upgrade is done, like from Debian 4
to Debian 5), relative to Debian testing.

It is about relative stability and support, both of which are more
reliable for the LTS versions of Ubuntu.

--
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
..............

"So once you do know what the question actually is,
  you'll know what the answer means."
- Deep Thought,
   Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
   "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
   A Trilogy In Four Parts",
   written by Douglas Adams,
   published by Pan Books, 1992

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Re: Sunday 20th Global Ekiga Mtg via VOIP - BerkeleyTIP - for forwarding

by Shawn Adams-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Bret

perhaps I missed something in the list - were you able to connect to BTIP ?

I think I wrote earlier - Ekiga 2.0.12 is fine, in my opinion, the best
version.

Best regards,


Bret Busby wrote:

> On Mon, 21 Sep 2009, john_re wrote:
>
>> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 16:31:20 -0700
>> From: john_re <john_re@...>
>> To: Ekiga mailing list <ekiga-list@...>, ekiga-list@...,
>>     bret@...
>> Cc: BTG <BerkTIPGlobal@...>
>> Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] Sunday 20th Global Ekiga Mtg via VOIP -
>> BerkeleyTIP
>>     - for forwarding
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 12:29:16 +0800 (WST), "Bret Busby"
>> <bret@...> said:
>>> On Sat, 19 Sep 2009, john_re wrote:
>>>
>>>> Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 03:42:08 -0700
>>>> From: john_re <john_re@...>
>>>> Reply-To: Ekiga mailing list <ekiga-list@...>
>>>> To: ekiga-list@...
>>>> Subject: [Ekiga-list] Sunday 20th Global Ekiga Mtg via VOIP -
>>>> BerkeleyTIP -
>>>>     for forwarding
>>>>
>>>> Get a VOIP headset, Install VOIP client SW, & join the global Ekiga
>>>> meeting this
>>>> Sunday Sept 20, 12N-3P Pacific Daylight Savings Time (UTC-8),
>>>> 3P-6P Eastern, (7P-10P UTC?)
>>>> http://sites.google.com/site/berkeleytip/remote-attendance
>>>>
>>>> Lots of great, exciting new things for Ekiga users,
>>>> as we start Year 2 of the Global FSW GNU(Linux)/BSD,
>>>> Free HW, Free Culture, TIP meetings:
>>>> TIP = Talks, Installfest, Project/Programing Party.
>>>> Educational, Productive, Social.
>>>> ...
>>
>>>
>>> Ah, if only a version of Ekiga is available, that works with Ubuntu
>>> 8.04, that can be installed using the Ubuntu package management
>>> system, ...
>>
>> I used 804 a long time, then move up to KU 904 - works fine on my
>> laptop & desktop.  If u want to use 804, great - but - tell me why u
>> don't just upgrade to 904? thx.  that should work well.
>>
>
> Ubuntu 8.04 is the latest Long Term Support version, and so is the
> version likely to be the most stable, and which is likely to have the
> least problems over time, with system upgrades "into the unknown", which
> is what happens with the non-LTS versions.
>
> To me, Ubuntu LTS versions, relative to the later versions that are not
> LTS, is like the way that the Debian stable versions used to be (but not
> the way it is now, where Debian stable, now, apparently, means Debian
> testing, especially where a system upgrade is done, like from Debian 4
> to Debian 5), relative to Debian testing.
>
> It is about relative stability and support, both of which are more
> reliable for the LTS versions of Ubuntu.
>
> --
> Bret Busby
> Armadale
> West Australia
> ..............
>
> "So once you do know what the question actually is,
>  you'll know what the answer means."
> - Deep Thought,
>   Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
>   "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
>   A Trilogy In Four Parts",
>   written by Douglas Adams,
>   published by Pan Books, 1992
>
> ....................................................
> _______________________________________________
> ekiga-list mailing list
> ekiga-list@...
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/ekiga-list
>


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Re: Sunday 20th Global Ekiga Mtg via VOIP - BerkeleyTIP - for forwarding

by Terry D. Cudney :: Rate this Message:

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Hi all,

   Was this meeting accessible via voip?

   I tried using linphone, another linux softphone. I got connected to all the sip uri's listed on the website, but all I got was silence.

   Thanks,

   --terry

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Re: Sunday 20th Global Ekiga Mtg via VOIP - BerkeleyTIP - for forwarding

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On Thu, 24 Sep 2009 17:05:12 -0400, "Terry D. Cudney" <terry.cudney@...> said:
> Hi all,
>
>    Was this meeting accessible via voip?
>
>    I tried using linphone, another linux softphone. I got connected to
>    all the sip uri's listed on the website, but all I got was silence.
>
>    Thanks,

The meetings are always accessible via voip. :)  - I don't know who was on voip this past meeting.  I was too busy doing meeting preparation stuff to get on voip myself, this past sunday.

One should always first join on #berkeleytip on irc.freenode.net.  That's the place to find out the latest details for the meeting, like which voip server we're on, & what channel, etc.

http://sites.google.com/site/berkeleytip/remote-attendance

Drop by the irc channel any day, even non meeting days.  Our next regularly scheduled BTIP meeting is Sat Oct 3, 12Noon - 3P PDST UTC-8 are the scheduled topic hours.

The 12Noon hour is the specifically Ekiga/ & all voip topics discussion hour.  & anyone is free to talk abot these issues at any time, in addition to that specifically topiced hour.

Schedule:
http://sites.google.com/site/berkeleytip/home

Hope you all join in voip on Oct 3. :)
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Re: Sunday 20th Global Ekiga Mtg via VOIP - BerkeleyTIP - for forwarding

by Bret Busby :: Rate this Message:

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On Thu, 24 Sep 2009, Shawn Adams wrote:

> Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 20:31:05 +0200
> From: Shawn Adams <shawn_adams@...>
> Reply-To: Ekiga mailing list <ekiga-list@...>
> To: Ekiga mailing list <ekiga-list@...>
> Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] Sunday 20th Global Ekiga Mtg via VOIP - BerkeleyTIP
>     - for forwarding
>
> Bret
>
> perhaps I missed something in the list - were you able to connect to BTIP ?
>
> I think I wrote earlier - Ekiga 2.0.12 is fine, in my opinion, the best
> version.
>
> Best regards,
>
>
> Bret Busby wrote:
>> On Mon, 21 Sep 2009, john_re wrote:
>>
>>> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 16:31:20 -0700
>>> From: john_re <john_re@...>
>>> To: Ekiga mailing list <ekiga-list@...>, ekiga-list@...,
>>>     bret@...
>>> Cc: BTG <BerkTIPGlobal@...>
>>> Subject: Re: [Ekiga-list] Sunday 20th Global Ekiga Mtg via VOIP -
>>> BerkeleyTIP
>>>     - for forwarding
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 12:29:16 +0800 (WST), "Bret Busby"
>>> <bret@...> said:
>>>> On Sat, 19 Sep 2009, john_re wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 03:42:08 -0700
>>>>> From: john_re <john_re@...>
>>>>> Reply-To: Ekiga mailing list <ekiga-list@...>
>>>>> To: ekiga-list@...
>>>>> Subject: [Ekiga-list] Sunday 20th Global Ekiga Mtg via VOIP -
>>>>> BerkeleyTIP -
>>>>>     for forwarding
>>>>>
>>>>> Get a VOIP headset, Install VOIP client SW, & join the global Ekiga
>>>>> meeting this
>>>>> Sunday Sept 20, 12N-3P Pacific Daylight Savings Time (UTC-8),
>>>>> 3P-6P Eastern, (7P-10P UTC?)
>>>>> http://sites.google.com/site/berkeleytip/remote-attendance
>>>>>
>>>>> Lots of great, exciting new things for Ekiga users,
>>>>> as we start Year 2 of the Global FSW GNU(Linux)/BSD,
>>>>> Free HW, Free Culture, TIP meetings:
>>>>> TIP = Talks, Installfest, Project/Programing Party.
>>>>> Educational, Productive, Social.
>>>>> ...
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ah, if only a version of Ekiga is available, that works with Ubuntu
>>>> 8.04, that can be installed using the Ubuntu package management
>>>> system, ...
>>>
>>> I used 804 a long time, then move up to KU 904 - works fine on my
>>> laptop & desktop.  If u want to use 804, great - but - tell me why u
>>> don't just upgrade to 904? thx.  that should work well.
>>>
>>
>> Ubuntu 8.04 is the latest Long Term Support version, and so is the
>> version likely to be the most stable, and which is likely to have the
>> least problems over time, with system upgrades "into the unknown", which
>> is what happens with the non-LTS versions.
>>
>> To me, Ubuntu LTS versions, relative to the later versions that are not
>> LTS, is like the way that the Debian stable versions used to be (but not
>> the way it is now, where Debian stable, now, apparently, means Debian
>> testing, especially where a system upgrade is done, like from Debian 4
>> to Debian 5), relative to Debian testing.
>>
>> It is about relative stability and support, both of which are more
>> reliable for the LTS versions of Ubuntu.
>>
>> --
>> Bret Busby
>> Armadale
>> West Australia
>> ..............
>>
>> "So once you do know what the question actually is,
>>  you'll know what the answer means."
>> - Deep Thought,
>>   Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
>>   "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
>>   A Trilogy In Four Parts",
>>   written by Douglas Adams,
>>   published by Pan Books, 1992
>>
>> ....................................................
>

Hello.

I did not take part.

Unfortunately, the timezone here being UTC +8, the time of the meeting,
was 0400 here, as is, apparently, the one being held within the next 24
hours.

At present, I am a bit ill, so I will probably also miss this one.

Maybe, better luck for me, next time.

--
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
..............

"So once you do know what the question actually is,
  you'll know what the answer means."
- Deep Thought,
   Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
   "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
   A Trilogy In Four Parts",
   written by Douglas Adams,
   published by Pan Books, 1992

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