tag:old.nabble.com,2006:forum-14811 2009-11-08T14:33:25Z Insights from Teachers of English as a Foreign Language in China. <a href="http://teflchina.org/welcome" target="_top" rel="nofollow">Welcome page + List Rules</a>. tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26259084 2009-11-08T14:33:25Z 2009-11-08T14:33:25Z Margaret Orleans-2 <br><br>--- On Mon, 11/9/09, karenstanleyma &lt;<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26259084&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow">karen.stanley@...</a>&gt; wrote: <br><br><br>&gt; In five or six years, lucky folks in <br>&gt; China will be able to go to a Disney theme park...hmmm.... <br><br>Will they have ironed out the problems that got HongKong Disneyland its bad press, like visitors unwilling to stand in such long lines that their all-day passports aren't worth the price? <br><br>--Peg <br><br><br><p>From forum: <a href="http://old.nabble.com/TEFLChina-%28life%29-f14813.html" embed="fixTarget[14813]" target="_top" >TEFLChina (life)</a></p> tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26256513 2009-11-08T10:30:04Z 2009-11-08T10:30:04Z karenstanleyma-3 In five or six years, lucky folks in China will be able to go to a Disney theme park...hmmm.... <br><br><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/04/business/global/04disney.html?emc=tnt&tntemail1=y" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/04/business/global/04disney.html?emc=tnt&tntemail1=y</a><br>or <br><a href="http://tinyurl.com/y9mmcpp" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/y9mmcpp</a><br><br>excerpt: <br>----------- <br>...The agreement for a Shanghai Disneyland is a landmark deal that carries enormous cultural and financial implications. Analysts estimate the initial park — not including hotels and resort infrastructure — will cost $3.5 billion, making it one of the largest-ever foreign investments in China. <br><br>The initial resort, with a mix of shopping areas, hotels and a Magic Kingdom-style theme park, will sprawl across 1,000 acres of the city's Pudong district... <br>------------ <br><br>Karen <br><br><br><br><br><p>From forum: <a href="http://old.nabble.com/TEFLChina-%28life%29-f14813.html" embed="fixTarget[14813]" target="_top" >TEFLChina (life)</a></p> tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26256441 2009-11-08T09:31:08Z 2009-11-08T09:31:08Z Marcy Bauman Nothing that recent, but this summer I was unable to create any google <br>groups. <br><br>Marcy Bauman <br><br>On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 Terence wrote: <br>Is anyone having trouble accessing their Google Groups sites in the past week? <br><p>From forum: <a href="http://old.nabble.com/TEFLChina-%28life%29-f14813.html" embed="fixTarget[14813]" target="_top" >TEFLChina (life)</a></p> tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26250930 2009-11-07T20:22:02Z 2009-11-07T20:22:02Z Alan Simpson-2 Yushu, SE Qinghai province. <br><br>Dave, please enlarge on life in such an out of the way place. It's a tiny town on my map & not mentioned in my guide books. <br><br>Daily life, food (I'm sure western food is not available), your students, living conditions, etc. <br><br>&nbsp; <br><br>I sometimes have an urge to do what you have done, but when I cycle through small Chinese towns I feel living conditions would be fairly bleak. <br><br>Alan Simpson <br><br><br>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] <br><br><p>From forum: <a href="http://old.nabble.com/TEFLChina-%28life%29-f14813.html" embed="fixTarget[14813]" target="_top" >TEFLChina (life)</a></p> tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26250945 2009-11-07T18:50:29Z 2009-11-07T18:50:29Z Terence Egan It makes interesting reading to compare his excited statement upon leaving Microsoft to join Google and his recent statement about being the 'wrong fit' at Google. <br><br>I'm trying to track down the relevant quotes for my job-seeking students as it is very instructive. If anyone wants a copy of the two items, please email me. <br><br>Terence Egan <br><br><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/05/technology/internet/05google.html?emc=tnt&tntemail1=y" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/05/technology/internet/05google.html?emc=tnt&tntemail1=y</a><br>&gt; <br>&gt; September 5, 2009 <br>&gt; Chief of Google in China Leaving <br>&gt; By MIGUEL HELFT <br>&gt; <br>&gt; In what is likely to be seen as a blow to Google's ambitions in China, Kai-Fu Lee, the prominent head of the company's operations there, is leaving to form a new venture. <br>&gt; <br><p>From forum: <a href="http://old.nabble.com/TEFLChina-%28life%29-f14813.html" embed="fixTarget[14813]" target="_top" >TEFLChina (life)</a></p> tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26250927 2009-11-07T18:45:45Z 2009-11-07T18:45:45Z Terence Egan Access to Google Blogger was closed down many months ago. Access to some photo sites was closed in early 2008 (or maybe before). <br><br>Is anyone having trouble accessing their Google Groups sites in the past week? <br><br>Terence Egan <br><p>From forum: <a href="http://old.nabble.com/TEFLChina-%28life%29-f14813.html" embed="fixTarget[14813]" target="_top" >TEFLChina (life)</a></p> tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26250922 2009-11-07T18:39:52Z 2009-11-07T18:39:52Z Terence Egan How much credence do universities give to students' personal statements? <br><br>I'm constantly providing references and filling out other universities'online forms. I'm surprised at their low-level recruitment practice in a time when almost every course touches on ethics, cheating and the importance of maintaining appropriate levels of governance and probity. <br><br>Are the universities aware that few Chinese teachers are willing to write a reference, instead giving the student carte blanche to write them? <br><br>Are they also aware that students open temporary email addreses in the teachers' names in order to respond to the universities' background checks? It should be mentioned (in defence of the students) that this is often done with the knowledge and 'blessings' of the teachers. <br><br>I've only been asked a couple of times in ten years to submit information using an official university email address. Requests to supply information on university letterhead (recently a student offered to 'assemble' one for me) are usually accompanied by an online alternative that requires no official documentation. Why bother with the charade of asking for a letterhead in the first place? <br><br>I have never been followed up for additional information or comment. As any decent recruiter knows, references are barely worth the paper they're written on. Carefully considered follow-up is critical &nbsp;to determine the true source of references and the veracity of the content. <br><br>We teach this stuff ... why do we never &nbsp;use it!!! <br><br>Terence Egan <br><p>From forum: <a href="http://old.nabble.com/TEFLChina-%28life%29-f14813.html" embed="fixTarget[14813]" target="_top" >TEFLChina (life)</a></p> tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26250918 2009-11-07T17:55:43Z 2009-11-07T17:55:43Z Terence Egan So much for his guanxi. It's always amusing to hear foreigners talk about how they are building guanxi. <br><br>I bought a nice apartment and renovated in central Beijing. It was a similarly arduous and annoying experience as in the article, however I had absolutely no guanxi. Even if I kidded myself that I did have some contacts, it wouldn't provide any comfort whatsoever. <br><br>We will always be 'the outsiders'. <br><br>Terence Egan <br><br>&gt; In China, an Apartment Renovation Presents New Challenges <br>&gt; <a href="http://tinyurl.com/ybkzqsc" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/ybkzqsc</a><br><p>From forum: <a href="http://old.nabble.com/TEFLChina-%28life%29-f14813.html" embed="fixTarget[14813]" target="_top" >TEFLChina (life)</a></p> tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26250914 2009-11-07T17:46:31Z 2009-11-07T17:46:31Z Terence Egan That's true (babies and diapers) for some Chinese Margaret. Others don't seem to have heard about it (the diversity of China again). <br><br>My wife had our daughter toilet-trained by the time she was 5 weeks old. She'd make her faces and then we'd sit her on the potty. All very tidy. The only time we used diapers was when we were making a long trip outside. Even then, that only continued for about 3 months. <br><br>I could count the number of soiling experiences we had on one hand and a couple of those were mistakes (LPG) and near misses. <br><br>Terence Egan <br><br><br>--- Margaret Orleans wrote: <br>Friends told us that diapers are unnecessary because babies make certain cries that tell their parents when they are ready to urinate or defecate, but our adopted daughter was probably using Chinese intonation patterns she had acquired _in utero_ and that's why we didn't recognize them. <br><p>From forum: <a href="http://old.nabble.com/TEFLChina-%28life%29-f14813.html" embed="fixTarget[14813]" target="_top" >TEFLChina (life)</a></p> tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26249100 2009-11-07T06:58:16Z 2009-11-07T06:58:16Z dk-5 &quot;Language Learning & Technology is a refereed journal which....seeks to <br>disseminate research to foreign and second language educators in the US and <br>around the world on issues related to technology and second language <br>education.&quot; <br><br><a href="http://llt.msu.edu/archives/by_topic.html" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://llt.msu.edu/archives/by_topic.html</a><br><br>I found this to be a very interesting resource of information for teachers <br>who want to learn more about using the technology in the classroom. <br><br>Dave Kees <br><br><br><br><p>From forum: <a href="http://old.nabble.com/TEFLChina-%28teach%29-f14810.html" embed="fixTarget[14810]" target="_top" >TEFLChina (teach)</a></p> tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26244881 2009-11-07T05:05:15Z 2009-11-07T05:05:15Z karenstanleyma-3 Those of us who can't buy $300,000 apartments in Dalian and then do a $60,000 renovation won't ever get this result, but I thought the story might be interesting anyway. <br><br>In China, an Apartment Renovation Presents New Challenges <br><br><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/05/garden/05reno.html?emc=tnt&tntemail1=y" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/05/garden/05reno.html?emc=tnt&tntemail1=y</a><br>or <br><a href="http://tinyurl.com/ybkzqsc" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/ybkzqsc</a><br><br>Karen <br><br><br><br><br><br><p>From forum: <a href="http://old.nabble.com/TEFLChina-%28life%29-f14813.html" embed="fixTarget[14813]" target="_top" >TEFLChina (life)</a></p> tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26244469 2009-11-06T22:55:35Z 2009-11-06T22:55:35Z Dave-208 &gt;Where are you Dave? <br>&gt;Alan S <br><br>Good question :-) <br>Yushu, SE Qinghai province. an ETP program at a vocational school, to get <br>kids past Gaokao English in 3 years. <br>There's other ETP programs in QInghai, the one at QInghai Normal Uni <br>obviously works extremely well - cos I meet the graduates. <br>ETP - English training program. <br><br>Yesterday, a little snow shower? during the outdoor drama show :-) Snow <br>here is round lumpies... <br><br>Dave Nevin <br><br><p>From forum: <a href="http://old.nabble.com/TEFLChina-%28life%29-f14813.html" embed="fixTarget[14813]" target="_top" >TEFLChina (life)</a></p> tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26244474 2009-11-06T21:22:25Z 2009-11-06T21:22:25Z Margaret Orleans-2 <br>--- On Sat, 11/7/09, karenstanleyma &lt;<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26244474&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow">karen.stanley@...</a>&gt; wrote: <br><br><br>&gt; I listened to a National Public Radio (US) clip that shows <br>&gt; there is some evidence that babies' cries tend to mimic the <br>&gt; common stress and intonation patterns in the language they <br>&gt; hear while in the womb. <br><br>Interesting. This throws some light on a child-rearing experience I had in China. &nbsp;Friends told us that diapers are unnecessary because babies make certain cries that tell their parents when they are ready to urinate or defecate, but our adopted daughter was probably using Chinese intonation patterns she had acquired _in utero_ and that's why we didn't recognize them. <br><br>Another interesting article--actually a multi-part interview--about children's brains and learning: <br><br>&lt;<a href="http://bigthink.com/bigthinkeditor/the-remarkable-intelligence-of-infants" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://bigthink.com/bigthinkeditor/the-remarkable-intelligence-of-infants</a>&gt; <br><br>--Peg <br><br>Karen: <br>&gt; <a href="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=120131516" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=120131516</a><br>&gt; <br><p>From forum: <a href="http://old.nabble.com/TEFLChina-%28life%29-f14813.html" embed="fixTarget[14813]" target="_top" >TEFLChina (life)</a></p> tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26240727 2009-11-06T16:20:31Z 2009-11-06T16:20:31Z karenstanleyma-3 I thought of the discussion on this list about young children exposed to multiple languages when I listened to a National Public Radio (US) clip that shows there is some evidence that babies' cries tend to mimic the common stress and intonation patterns in the language they hear while in the womb. <br><a href="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=120131516" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=120131516</a><br><br>brief excerpt: <br>--- <br>A new study of over a thousand recorded cries from 30 French newborns and 30 German newborns found differences in the cries' melody patterns. French cries tended to have a rising melody, while the German cries tended to have a falling melody. <br>--- <br><br>Karen <br><br><br><p>From forum: <a href="http://old.nabble.com/TEFLChina-%28life%29-f14813.html" embed="fixTarget[14813]" target="_top" >TEFLChina (life)</a></p> tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26225896 2009-11-05T17:56:04Z 2009-11-05T17:56:04Z Bishop Johnson I downloaded ExpressVPN here in China. It costs $12.95 per month, or $69.95 for 6 months. Great thing is they give you a U. S. I.P. address, so you can see stuff that is only available to U. S. residents <br><br>KTF <br>RAY <br><br>- Jada wrote: <br>Did you download your proxies while in your home country or in China? &nbsp;Also, did you have to pay for your proxy and if so, how much? <br><p>From forum: <a href="http://old.nabble.com/TEFLChina-%28life%29-f14813.html" embed="fixTarget[14813]" target="_top" >TEFLChina (life)</a></p> tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26219910 2009-11-05T11:49:09Z 2009-11-05T11:49:09Z Alan Simpson-2 Don, you should know it's all good news reported in China. <br><br>&nbsp;Alan Simpson <br><p>From forum: <a href="http://old.nabble.com/TEFLChina-%28life%29-f14813.html" embed="fixTarget[14813]" target="_top" >TEFLChina (life)</a></p> tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26220966 2009-11-05T11:09:39Z 2009-11-05T11:09:39Z Jada Rufo Aloha, <br><br>A question for all those who have Facebook (FB)and are in China. &nbsp;I see that several of my FB &nbsp;buddies both Chinese and expats are back on -- or at least the expats are back on and posting. &nbsp;My question is regarding proxies. &nbsp;Did you download your proxies while in your home country or in China? &nbsp;Also, did you have to pay for your proxy and if so, how much? <br><br>Jada Rufo <br><br><p>From forum: <a href="http://old.nabble.com/TEFLChina-%28life%29-f14813.html" embed="fixTarget[14813]" target="_top" >TEFLChina (life)</a></p> tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26221014 2009-11-05T10:43:43Z 2009-11-05T10:43:43Z Don williamson-2 Ha,ha...you're right but back in June a seminar I was to attend got canceled because the two U.S. guest professors arriving from the U.S. were on a plane landing in Beijing had one passenger with H1 symptoms and the officials quarantined everyone for ?? days and the profs never did arrive in Wuhan for the program. I never got a staight story from the Chinese profs running the program. <br><br>Don <br><br><br>&lt;&lt;&lt; On Thu, 11/5/09, alan wrote: <br>Don, you should know it's all good news reported in China. <br><p>From forum: <a href="http://old.nabble.com/TEFLChina-%28life%29-f14813.html" embed="fixTarget[14813]" target="_top" >TEFLChina (life)</a></p> tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26211789 2009-11-04T17:31:25Z 2009-11-04T17:31:25Z sewbirdchina I'm still puzzled as well Don and frankly don't remember if I had all three of the documents that you listed. We had documents sent to us and at that point were told to go ahead and apply for the visa. And yes, we requested Z. <br><br>Nancy, US <br><br>--- In <a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26211789&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow">TEFLChinaJob@...</a>, Don williamson &lt;willdon13@...&gt; wrote: <br>&gt; <br>&gt; Nancy...I think we discussed this before and I'm still puzzled? <br>&gt;   <br>&gt; 1) Did your Visa application to the Chinese Consulate here in the U.S. specify &quot;Z&quot; visa request? <br>&gt;   <br>&gt; 2) Did you have the three documents attached ?  Invite letter, PSB form and the presumed third one issued by the Prov. Ministery of Edc? I have never figured out the latter but it seemed our Univ. had no problem in getting these. <br>&gt;   <br><br><br><p>From forum: <a href="http://old.nabble.com/TEFLChina-%28job%29-f14812.html" embed="fixTarget[14812]" target="_top" >TEFLChina (job)</a></p> tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26207324 2009-11-04T16:39:14Z 2009-11-04T16:39:14Z Alan Simpson-2 Where are you Dave? <br>Alan Simpson <br><br>----------------- <br>Dave said: <br>A month after school started, a vocational school a long way from most <br>places, new technology appeared in the classrooms. <br>. <br>. <br>Chalk. <br><p>From forum: <a href="http://old.nabble.com/TEFLChina-%28life%29-f14813.html" embed="fixTarget[14813]" target="_top" >TEFLChina (life)</a></p> tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26207320 2009-11-04T14:57:57Z 2009-11-04T14:57:57Z Margaret Orleans-2 I've changed my response to Karen's post to the Teach list because I want to share a site that another teacher in Japan adapted (by simplifying a little of the language) into a lesson for students here. &nbsp;Unfortunately, I can't attach the handout he created, but it's been widely used as the basis of reading, writing, and discussion lessons. <br><br>&lt;<a href="http://www.harrisoncountyhealth.com/flu_prevention.htm" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.harrisoncountyhealth.com/flu_prevention.htm</a>&gt; <br><br>--Peg <br><br><br><br><p>From forum: <a href="http://old.nabble.com/TEFLChina-%28teach%29-f14810.html" embed="fixTarget[14810]" target="_top" >TEFLChina (teach)</a></p> tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26204929 2009-11-04T09:50:08Z 2009-11-04T09:50:08Z karenstanleyma-3 These every day practices to reduce the chances of getting the flu have been circulating for a while via email (I have received them from 3 different people), and are also available on multiple websites, so I thought I would share them with anyone who has not yet gotten them. <br><br>---------------------------------- <br>1. Frequent hand-washing (well highlighted in all official <br>communications). <br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <br>2. &quot;Hands-off-the-face&quot; approach. Resist the temptation to touch any <br>part of face unless necessary (as for eating or washing). <br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <br>3. *Gargle twice a day with warm salt water (use Listerine if you don't trust salt). <br>*H1N1 takes 2-3 days after initial infection in the throat / <br>nasal cavity to proliferate and show characteristic symptoms. Simple <br>gargling prevents proliferation. <br>Don't underestimate this simple, inexpensive and powerful preventive <br>method. <br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <br>4. Similar to 3 above, <br>*clean your nostrils at least once every day with warm salt water. <br>*Not everybody may be good at Jala Neti or Sutra Neti (very good Yoga asanas to clean nasal cavities), but <br>*blowing the nose hard once a day and swabbing both nostrils with cotton buds dipped in warm salt water is very effective in bringing down viral population. <br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <br>5. *Boost your natural immunity with foods that are rich in Vitamin C <br>*If you have to supplement with Vitamin C tablets, make sure that it also has Zinc to boost absorption. <br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <br>6. *Drink as much of hot liquids (tea, coffee, etc) as often as you can. <br>*Drinking warm liquids has the same effect as gargling, but in the <br>reverse direction. They wash off proliferating viruses from the throat into the stomach where they cannot survive or proliferate <br>---------------------------------- <br><br>Karen <br><br><br><p>From forum: <a href="http://old.nabble.com/TEFLChina-%28life%29-f14813.html" embed="fixTarget[14813]" target="_top" >TEFLChina (life)</a></p> tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26201086 2009-11-04T09:28:26Z 2009-11-04T09:28:26Z karenstanleyma-3 Forwarded from Linguist List. <br>---------------- <br><br>Full Title: English Education Today for Tomorrow: The Road Ahead <br>Short Title: ELC2010 <br><br>Date: 16-Apr-2010 - 18-Apr-2010 <br>Location: Shantou, Guangdong, China <br>Contact Person: Daniel Li <br>Meeting Email: <a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26201086&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow">elc2010@...</a> <br>[elc2010(at)stu.edu.cn] <br>Web Site: <a href="http://elc.stu.edu.cn/elc2010" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://elc.stu.edu.cn/elc2010</a>&nbsp; <br><br>Meeting Description: <br><br>English education has changed dramatically over the past decade, be it in language policy such as ELF (English as a Lingua Franca) and EIL (English as &nbsp;an International Language), in teaching purpose such as EMI (English as a Medium of Instruction) and ESP (English for Specific Purposes), or in teaching mode such as CMC (Computer-mediated Communication) and SALC (Self-access Language Center). <br>While many students, teachers and administrators are still struggling to fully absorb and implement those changes required by constantly evolving societies and globalized markets and afforded by sophisticated technologies and newly forged synergies, new developments are looming on the horizon. It is thus the purpose of this conference to attempt a critical survey of the current state of ELT across its subdisciplines, identify promising concepts, practices and tools, and sketch out the road ahead that needs to be charted in order to truly prepare the learner for challenges and opportunities that will present themselves in the years to come. <br><br>Second Call for Papers <br>Extended submission deadline: November 30, 2009 <br>Notification of acceptance: by December 31, 2009 <br><br>We invite researchers and practitioners to submit proposals in the following areas of ELT: <br><br>World Englishes, Intercultural Communication, Computer Assisted Language Learning, Testing Evaluation and Assessment, Teacher Training and Professional Development, English for Specific Purposes, English Medium Instruction, Curriculum Development, Materials Development, Learner Autonomy, Classroom Research, Classroom Practice, Program Management <br><br>Proposal Types <br>Papers (20min): Report on some recent unpublished research relevant to one of the strands of the conference <br>Posters (60min): Report on some work in progress related to one of the strands of the conference <br>Workshop (45min): Demonstration of some teaching, research or administrative tool, technique or process <br><br>Proposal Format <br>Title: A maximum of 10 words that summarizes the main idea of your presentation proposal type: Paper, poster or workshop <br><br>Abstract: A maximum of 300 words. Abstracts will be evaluated by the scientific committee based on relevance to the strand, originality of approach, clarity of purpose, organizational strength, and contribution to the field. <br><br>Summary: A maximum of 50 words, proof-read, ready to be published in the conference brochure. <br><br>Strand: One strand only which best describes the focus and content of your presentation <br><br>Technical requirements: Please let us know if you need anything beyond a digital projector. <br><br>Bio: In a separate attachment, please submit a 50 word bio for each presenter. <br>Contact information: In the body of the email message, please put your name, affiliation, email, phone, fax and postal address <br><br>Proposal submission guidelines: Only one proposal may be submitted by any one presenter. The proposal must conform to the guidelines specified below and reach the conference secretariat by the published deadline. <br><br>Online proposal submission will open October 1, 2009 at <br><a href="http://elc.stu.edu.cn/elc2010" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://elc.stu.edu.cn/elc2010</a>. <br><br>Proposal deadline: November 30, 2009, 11:59pm Beijing time. Notification of acceptance will be sent out by the end of December. <br><br>For further information, please visit our conference website at <br><a href="http://elc.stu.edu.cn/elc2010" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://elc.stu.edu.cn/elc2010</a><br><br><br><br><br><p>From forum: <a href="http://old.nabble.com/TEFLChina-%28teach%29-f14810.html" embed="fixTarget[14810]" target="_top" >TEFLChina (teach)</a></p> tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26201132 2009-11-04T06:00:03Z 2009-11-04T06:00:03Z Dave-208 <br>A month after school started, a vocational school a long way from most <br>places, new technology appeared in the classrooms. <br>. <br>. <br>Chalk. <br>. <br>. <br>Before that, we were expected to buy our own. It's 1rmb a box of 30. <br><br>But school has a nice as-new 30 seater bus, so the teachers can go home at <br>lunchtime without mixing with the great unwashed. (yes I know school may <br>use the bus for other purposes...) <br><br>Dave Nevin <br><br><br><p>From forum: <a href="http://old.nabble.com/TEFLChina-%28life%29-f14813.html" embed="fixTarget[14813]" target="_top" >TEFLChina (life)</a></p> tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26201094 2009-11-04T05:55:14Z 2009-11-04T05:55:14Z Dave-208 &gt;But...we recieve very little news on what's going on in China? I'm <br>&gt;wondering if it will be a factor in China's recruitment of new F.Ts? <br>&gt;Anyone want to remark?? <br><br>Judging by the number of job rss feeds I get, there's a shortage of <br>teachers, whthere caused by flu or Shanghai type necessary quals, it's <br>hard to say. <br><br>If you search for stories on the genuineness of Chinese medicine, and some <br>Indian medicine, you might not have much faith in any Chinese <br>injection...and just make soup with star anise, which is the source of the <br>medical ingredient, at least for Tamiflu. <br><br>but 2 or 3 nurses turned up at school today, 18 hours from Xining, and <br>gave all the teachers a free shot! so I rolled up my sleeve. No side <br>effects, 12 hours later. <br><br>Dave Nevin <br><br><p>From forum: <a href="http://old.nabble.com/TEFLChina-%28life%29-f14813.html" embed="fixTarget[14813]" target="_top" >TEFLChina (life)</a></p> tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26185714 2009-11-03T11:28:22Z 2009-11-03T11:28:22Z Jada Rufo Karen wrote: <br>The Center for Disease Control, a highly reputable entity in the US, has a FAQ on the safety of the H1N1 vaccine: <br><a href="http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/vaccination/vaccine_safety_qa.htm" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/vaccination/vaccine_safety_qa.htm</a><br><br>Another US-based source of information is: <br><a href="http://www.flu.gov/" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.flu.gov/</a><br><br>An Australian government source of information on the vaccine: <br><a href="http://www.h1n1vax.com.au/s1/cs/auvx/1247066989802/content/1247066992399/home.htm" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.h1n1vax.com.au/s1/cs/auvx/1247066989802/content/1247066992399/home.htm</a><br>&gt;&gt;&gt; <br><br><br>I'd like to add the World Health Organization's website. <br>  <br><a href="http://www.who.int/csr/disease/swineflu/frequently_asked_questions/what/en/index.html" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.who.int/csr/disease/swineflu/frequently_asked_questions/what/en/index.html</a><br><br><a href="http://www.who.int/csr/disease/swineflu/frequently_asked_questions/vaccine_preparedness/en/index.html" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.who.int/csr/disease/swineflu/frequently_asked_questions/vaccine_preparedness/en/index.html</a><br>  <br>Jada <br><p>From forum: <a href="http://old.nabble.com/TEFLChina-%28life%29-f14813.html" embed="fixTarget[14813]" target="_top" >TEFLChina (life)</a></p> tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26190537 2009-11-03T11:15:22Z 2009-11-03T11:15:22Z Don williamson-2 Nancy...I think we discussed this before and I'm still puzzled? <br>  <br>1) Did your Visa application to the Chinese Consulate here in the U.S. specify &quot;Z&quot; visa request? <br>  <br>2) Did you have the three documents attached ?  Invite letter, PSB form and the presumed third one issued by the Prov. Ministery of Edc? I have never figured out the latter but it seemed our Univ. had no problem in getting these. <br>  <br>As a side note to other listers: If you come to teach in China on one of the 'Camp Programs,'  You would do so on an &quot;F&quot; visa and only the invite letter is needed. In this case you don't recieve official work salary nor need open a bank account but rather are paid a cash stipend. Also, we came on an &quot;L&quot; visa for these programs when pre-post touring was set up as part of the deal. This was all handled by an agent here in the U.S. <br><br>But...as we all know...things change with time and place. <br><br>Don  <br><br>--- On Mon, 11/2/09, sewbirdchina &lt;<a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26190537&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow">sewbirdchina@...</a>&gt; wrote: <br>  <br>&gt; --- On Sat, 10/31/09, Ria Smit &lt;tryria@...&gt; wrote: <br><br>&gt; You cannot work and receive regular pay when you are here on an F <br>&gt; visa.  I have overcome it by &quot;tutoring&quot; in my home.  <br><br>Just for the record, last year my husband and I worked at top ranking university on a Fall semester contract, with an F visa. It was issued to us by the Chinese Consulate here in the US from an application accompanied by an official Chinese invitation to teach. <br><br>Why? I don't know and we weren't pleased because an F visa is a single entry visa which meant our plans for National Holiday had to be dropped. <br><br>Nancy, US <br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <br><p>From forum: <a href="http://old.nabble.com/TEFLChina-%28job%29-f14812.html" embed="fixTarget[14812]" target="_top" >TEFLChina (job)</a></p> tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26185660 2009-11-03T10:42:30Z 2009-11-03T10:42:30Z Gail Schacter-2 <a href="http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/alert-alerte/h1n1/fs-fi-seniors-aines-eng.php#s4" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/alert-alerte/h1n1/fs-fi-seniors-aines-eng.php#s4</a><br><br>Here's the info from the government of Canada site. <br><br>Gail Schacter <br><p>From forum: <a href="http://old.nabble.com/TEFLChina-%28life%29-f14813.html" embed="fixTarget[14813]" target="_top" >TEFLChina (life)</a></p> tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26184043 2009-11-03T10:07:37Z 2009-11-03T10:07:37Z karenstanleyma-3 MODERATOR NOTE: &nbsp;Because of the flood of &quot;conspiracy&quot; (and other) rumors about the H1N1 vaccine that abound on the internet, I'd like to ask people to cite reputable sources when discussing this topic in order to avoid unnecessary anxiety. <br>--------------------------- <br><br>The Center for Disease Control, a highly reputable entity in the US, has a FAQ on the safety of the H1N1 vaccine: <br><a href="http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/vaccination/vaccine_safety_qa.htm" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/vaccination/vaccine_safety_qa.htm</a><br><br>Another US-based source of information is: <br><a href="http://www.flu.gov/" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.flu.gov/</a><br><br>An Australian government source of information on the vaccine: <br><a href="http://www.h1n1vax.com.au/s1/cs/auvx/1247066989802/content/1247066992399/home.htm" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.h1n1vax.com.au/s1/cs/auvx/1247066989802/content/1247066992399/home.htm</a><br><br>I'm sure other people can come up with a reputable UK source. <br><br>Karen <br><br><p>From forum: <a href="http://old.nabble.com/TEFLChina-%28life%29-f14813.html" embed="fixTarget[14813]" target="_top" >TEFLChina (life)</a></p> tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26190546 2009-11-03T02:13:33Z 2009-11-03T02:13:33Z Dave-208 &gt;It's a pity no one at the Embassy suggested or offered a **6-month** <br>&gt;multiple entry F visa ... mate of mine just got one within the past 2 <br>&gt;weeks, but in Hong Kong <br>&gt;KTF <br>RAY <br><br>If you look in SCMP,the Hong Kong paper, agents advertise their ability to get you visas for up to 3 years, multi-entry. <br>I dont know how they/the Embassy decides who's eligible. I got 3 months <br>multi, for NZ passport, 3 hour service, plus a couple of Guiness at the <br>outside cafe while I waited. <br><br>Somewhere I still have the newspaper , rsvp if you want more details. <br><br>Dave Nevin <br><br><p>From forum: <a href="http://old.nabble.com/TEFLChina-%28job%29-f14812.html" embed="fixTarget[14812]" target="_top" >TEFLChina (job)</a></p> tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26176607 2009-11-03T00:52:25Z 2009-11-03T00:52:25Z Bishop Johnson It's a pity no one at the Embassy suggested or offered a **6-month** multiple entry F visa ... mate of mine just got one within the past 2 weeks, but in Hong Kong <br><br>KTF <br>RAY <br><br>--- In <a href="http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&post=26176607&i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow">TEFLChinaJob@...</a>, &quot;sewbirdchina&quot; &lt;sewbirdchina@...&gt; wrote: <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; Why? I don't know and we weren't pleased because an F visa is a single entry visa which meant our plans for National Holiday had to be dropped. <br>&gt; <br>&gt; Nancy, US <br>&gt; <br><br><br><p>From forum: <a href="http://old.nabble.com/TEFLChina-%28job%29-f14812.html" embed="fixTarget[14812]" target="_top" >TEFLChina (job)</a></p> tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26180686 2009-11-02T18:34:32Z 2009-11-02T18:34:32Z Jada Rufo I found out today on our local NPR station that our Govenor Linda Lingle is traveling to Asia, including China, to promote Hawaii tourism. &nbsp;She is expected to meet with Chinese tourism officials in Beijing and go on to Shanghai, Sanya, Haikou, Guangzhou, and Hong Kong. <br><br>While I would like to see more Chinese from the PRC visit Hawaii I don't think it was the right thing to do given our budget crisis here. &nbsp; <br><br>She should have stayed home. <br><br>One of the issues that the governor should have taken care of before leaving is this crazy idea of instigating a four day school week for Hawaii's students and teachers. &nbsp;Called &quot;Furlough Fridays&quot; its purpose is to save money to increase the state's budget. <br><br>We have become the butt of all educational jokes. &nbsp;Students here already score the lowest scores on national tests. &nbsp;This &quot;Furlough Friday&quot; just exacerbates the problem and presents us as being embiciles. <br><br>Maybe they are right. &nbsp;Two Fridays ago, on our first furlough, I saw some teenage boys skateboarding on the highway near the entrance of a subdivision during school hours. <br><br>I keep saying to myself that if Chinese schools had such a problem with their provincial budget shortfalls that school officials would NEVER cut school days to beef up the provinces coffers. &nbsp;They'd probably cut teacher's wages but NEVER have furloughs. <br><br>I also keep thinking to myself that in China, missed school days because of holidays like National Day and International Labor Day, would eventually be made up usually on Saturdays or Sundays. &nbsp;My former students would be screaming for an extra holiday but my former employers would be laughing at their counterparts in Hawaii. <br><br>I also wonder if any other states have had to take such drastic measures to their educational system. <br><br>For more information about what I call &quot;Furlough Friday Fiasco&quot; you can check out the following links: <br><br><a href="http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5g082ZQ-GSp4oHSwKghU8aLdTgx5QD9BKR9O02" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5g082ZQ-GSp4oHSwKghU8aLdTgx5QD9BKR9O02</a><br><a href="http://www.kitv.com/news/21486721/detail.html" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.kitv.com/news/21486721/detail.html</a><br><a href="http://abcnews.go.com/WN/hawaii-day-school-week-ease-recession-woes/story?id=8894574" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://abcnews.go.com/WN/hawaii-day-school-week-ease-recession-woes/story?id=8894574</a><br><a href="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=114330842&ft=1&f=1003" target="_top" rel="nofollow">http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=114330842&ft=1&f=1003</a><br><br>Jada Rufo <br><br><p>From forum: <a href="http://old.nabble.com/TEFLChina-%28life%29-f14813.html" embed="fixTarget[14813]" target="_top" >TEFLChina (life)</a></p> tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26175747 2009-11-02T15:05:12Z 2009-11-02T15:05:12Z sewbirdchina &gt; --- On Sat, 10/31/09, Ria Smit &lt;tryria@...&gt; wrote: <br><br>&gt; You cannot work and receive regular pay when you are here on an F <br>&gt; visa.  I have overcome it by &quot;tutoring&quot; in my home.  <br><br>Just for the record, last year my husband and I worked at top ranking university on a Fall semester contract, with an F visa. It was issued to us by the Chinese Consulate here in the US from an application accompanied by an official Chinese invitation to teach. <br><br>Why? I don't know and we weren't pleased because an F visa is a single entry visa which meant our plans for National Holiday had to be dropped. <br><br>Nancy, US <br><br><p>From forum: <a href="http://old.nabble.com/TEFLChina-%28job%29-f14812.html" embed="fixTarget[14812]" target="_top" >TEFLChina (job)</a></p> tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26180642 2009-11-02T14:33:41Z 2009-11-02T14:33:41Z Don williamson-2 Alan...I'm curious about what news coverage is occuring in China re. H1N1? <br>Here in the U.S. we are getting very exstensive coverage on the seriousness <br>for young people. But...we recieve very little news on what's going on in China? I'm wondering if it will be a factor in China's recruitment of new F.Ts? Anyone want to remark?? <br><br>Don <br><br><br>--- alan wrote: <br><br>Replying to my own post below, students & teachers will be vaccinated next month. <br>Any adverse reports about the vaccine? <br><p>From forum: <a href="http://old.nabble.com/TEFLChina-%28life%29-f14813.html" embed="fixTarget[14813]" target="_top" >TEFLChina (life)</a></p> tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26165221 2009-11-02T13:58:11Z 2009-11-02T13:58:11Z Alan Simpson-2 Replying to my own post below, students & teachers will be vaccinated next month. <br>Any adverse reports about the vaccine? <br>Alan Simpson <br><br>------------------ <br>I see vaccinations are being done in Beijing. <br>Are they students & teachers being offered this including foreign teachers? <br><p>From forum: <a href="http://old.nabble.com/TEFLChina-%28life%29-f14813.html" embed="fixTarget[14813]" target="_top" >TEFLChina (life)</a></p>