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	<title>Nabble - TEFLChina (life)</title>
	<updated>2009-12-20T18:19:45Z</updated>
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	<subtitle type="html">Discusses life as an English teacher in China -- language, food, travel, diplomacy, computers etc. &lt;a href=&quot;http://Wikigogy.org/TEFLChina_email_lists&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Welcome page + List Rules&lt;/a&gt;.</subtitle>
	
<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26869599</id>
	<title>(life) climate change and its potential social impact in China</title>
	<published>2009-12-20T18:19:45Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-20T18:19:45Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Dave-208</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&amp;gt;The result is that India and China face
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;enormous pressure to think like the Western great powers of 2009 and,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;It looks, as well, at how efforts to &amp;quot;leapfrog&amp;quot; into the thinking and
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;attitude of developed countries has an impact on family/generational
&lt;br&gt;relationships.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;ummh I don't have time to read it but so many uni grads are heading home
&lt;br&gt;to mummy and daddy so they can be 'close', which seems a Confucian
&lt;br&gt;thing...so the last 60-70 years have had little effect there... ?
&lt;br&gt;and so many are heading abroad...
&lt;br&gt;and even Beijing grads have problems with hukou...if they want to stay in BJ
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;or Shanghai? (I don't know about Shanghai)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;which leaves 1% ? suffering any impact of family relationships. 1% of uni
&lt;br&gt;grads..
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Dave Nevin
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26864822</id>
	<title>(life) Christmas Pudding?</title>
	<published>2009-12-20T03:16:33Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-20T03:16:33Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Terence Egan</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Has anyone sighted a Christmas pudding for sale in Beijing?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;7-11 is selling something that purports to be a Christmas cake, but I'm not sure of the contents.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Terence Egan
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26854119</id>
	<title>(life) climate change and its potential social impact in China</title>
	<published>2009-12-19T02:51:34Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-19T02:51:34Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>karenstanleyma-3</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">From:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/19/world/asia/19iht-currents.html?emc=tnt&amp;tntemail1=y&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/19/world/asia/19iht-currents.html?emc=tnt&amp;tntemail1=y&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is an interesting article that looks at the disparity, particularly in India and China, between national wealth and individual lack of wealth and how this affects the politics of environmental change.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;excerpt:
&lt;br&gt;------------------
&lt;br&gt;Together, that is $11.3 trillion worth of power being steered, if you divide income by population, by a $4,500-a-year mentality. The result is that India and China face enormous pressure to think like the Western great powers of 2009 and, simultaneously, like those great powers did 100 years ago, when they were focused on economic development and less interested in global justice.
&lt;br&gt;------------------
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It looks, as well, at how efforts to &amp;quot;leapfrog&amp;quot; into the thinking and attitude of developed countries has an impact on family/generational relationships.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Karen
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26851515</id>
	<title>(life) I need Teacher Help with my stories</title>
	<published>2009-12-18T08:09:31Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-18T08:09:31Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Mumeizama International</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Dear Teachers,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I'm taking GCE O-Level Edexcel English Language Exam in the first week of January. I've written some stories, I would like to invite your comments on them. Although my teacher has graded them, I need more impartial and tough evaluation. I will appreciate if you take some time out of your busy schedule to check and grade them according to the Edexcel standards. Please capitalize the changes.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Interested teachers may reply to the following address so I can send the stories.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Please reply to: &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26851515&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;office@...&lt;/a&gt; 
&lt;br&gt;A little urgent. =)
&lt;br&gt;Thank you!!
&lt;br&gt;Rumeng. 
&lt;br&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26842095</id>
	<title>(life) website with some free resources for learning Chinese</title>
	<published>2009-12-17T19:11:14Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-17T19:11:14Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Han Rita</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.echineselearning.com/free-trial/index.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.echineselearning.com/free-trial/index.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;is primarily a commercial website for learning Chinese, but it does have a few free resources under &amp;quot;Chinese Learning Resources&amp;quot; in the lower right-hand corner of the website. &amp;nbsp;This might be useful for list members who are trying to improve their Chinese.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;An example:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;eChineseLearning Newsletter  (December 16, 2009)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Highlights in This Issue
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1. Chinese Mini-Test---汉语迷你测试
&lt;br&gt;[&lt;a href=&quot;http://cts.vresp.com/c/?eChineseLearning/f15c57d814/TEST/fe7b93563f/p=642?ecl=emEEEEEE32hl01-1218&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://cts.vresp.com/c/?eChineseLearning/f15c57d814/TEST/fe7b93563f/p=642?ecl=emEEEEEE32hl01-1218&lt;/a&gt;]
&lt;br&gt;hànyǔ mínǐ cèshì Chinese Mini-Test
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2. Chinese Idiom Story for Kids---磨杵成针
&lt;br&gt;[&lt;a href=&quot;http://cts.vresp.com/c/?eChineseLearning/f15c57d814/TEST/07d0b8e9f2/p=412?ecl=emEEEEEE32hl02-1218&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://cts.vresp.com/c/?eChineseLearning/f15c57d814/TEST/07d0b8e9f2/p=412?ecl=emEEEEEE32hl02-1218&lt;/a&gt;]
&lt;br&gt; móchǔchéngzhēn  Grinding an Iron Pestle into a Needle
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;3. Chinese  Song for Teens---隐形的翅膀
&lt;br&gt;[&lt;a href=&quot;http://cts.vresp.com/c/?eChineseLearning/f15c57d814/TEST/f267e5a526/p=452?ecl=emEEEEEE32hl03-1218&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://cts.vresp.com/c/?eChineseLearning/f15c57d814/TEST/f267e5a526/p=452?ecl=emEEEEEE32hl03-1218&lt;/a&gt;]
&lt;br&gt;Yǐnxíng De Chìbǎng Invisible Wings
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;4. New Movie--花木兰
&lt;br&gt;[&lt;a href=&quot;http://cts.vresp.com/c/?eChineseLearning/f15c57d814/TEST/8b37547629/p=633?ecl=emEEEEEE32hl04-1218&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://cts.vresp.com/c/?eChineseLearning/f15c57d814/TEST/8b37547629/p=633?ecl=emEEEEEE32hl04-1218&lt;/a&gt;]
&lt;br&gt;Huā Mùlán Hua Mulan
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;5.
&lt;br&gt;[&lt;a href=&quot;http://cts.vresp.com/c/?eChineseLearning/f15c57d814/TEST/800d3d34cd/p=522ecl=emEEEEEE31hl05-1218&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://cts.vresp.com/c/?eChineseLearning/f15c57d814/TEST/800d3d34cd/p=522ecl=emEEEEEE31hl05-1218&lt;/a&gt;]
&lt;br&gt;Business---China's Most Valuable Brand
&lt;br&gt;[&lt;a href=&quot;http://cts.vresp.com/c/?eChineseLearning/f15c57d814/TEST/82deba8693/p=434?ecl=emEEEEEE32hl05-1218&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://cts.vresp.com/c/?eChineseLearning/f15c57d814/TEST/82deba8693/p=434?ecl=emEEEEEE32hl05-1218&lt;/a&gt;]
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Han Rita
&lt;br&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26842022</id>
	<title>(life) Medicals in Henan</title>
	<published>2009-12-17T18:58:31Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-17T18:58:31Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>melawrie</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hello everyone,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am working for a state university in Luoyang and with every contract renewal, I am forced to endure a complete physical, including the x-ray. Knowing how my risks of breast and lung cancer increase with every unnecessary x-ray, I have expressed concern to my waibans. They do not seem interested in assisting me, nor in the fact that they are aiding in increasing my cancer risk. Originally, they informed me that a complete physical is mandatory each year to renew my Foreign Expert's Certificate in Zhengzhou. This contradicts what I experienced in Beijing and it also contradicts what I know of other foreign teacher's experiences in other provinces. They have since made statements that I now doubt the original statement - that it is Zhengzhou who requires it.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I requested to speak to the Zhengzhou Foreign Expert's office. This was ignored. I asked if I could take the physical in Zhengzhou or Beijing. I was advised that this was not possible, but I suspect that my waiban never bothered to ask the question, because I know other foreign experts who have done their physical in Beijing for other provinces's documents.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I requested to speak to the doctor signing off on the physical here in Luoyang and got to speak to the bureaucrat who does the signing. She is not a doctor and advised me that &amp;quot;an x-ray is just like taking a photograph.&amp;quot; When I inquired as to why the TB skin test could not be done instead, she simply replied, &amp;quot;Not possible.&amp;quot; I loved this, as when one of my students actually did develop TB, they tested him with the skin test first, before giving him the x-ray.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So what I would like to know from teachers who have worked on a Z visa in Henan for more than 1 year, or from teachers who are knowledgeable regarding the regulations for the physical, is: a) do you require a physical every year and b) does that physical include the x-ray? c) what, if any options are open to me?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks in advance and happy holidays to all.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Michelle
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26757789</id>
	<title>(life) one effect of China's economic growth</title>
	<published>2009-12-12T05:54:58Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-12T05:54:58Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>karenstanleyma-3</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">An article that looks at &amp;quot;a sense of disquiet, even in developing Asian nations in Beijing's orbit, over the implications of China's swift, seemingly boundless economic growth.&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/10/world/asia/10jakarta.html?emc=tnt&amp;tntemail1=y&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/10/world/asia/10jakarta.html?emc=tnt&amp;tntemail1=y&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Karen
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26682497</id>
	<title>Re: (life) Re: An FET in Yushu</title>
	<published>2009-12-07T11:14:49Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-07T11:14:49Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Alan Simpson-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">I asked Dave to tell us about life in the Boonies, but after his report I admire what his doing but don't think I could handle it.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I smiled at having to buy the chalk.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Alan Simpson
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26682494</id>
	<title>(life) An FET in Yushu</title>
	<published>2009-12-07T06:20:16Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-07T06:20:16Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Dave-208</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&amp;gt;truely beyond nowhere ... how on earth did you find that job?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Twas advertised on Dave's ESLCafe...so check about March/April.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;Am I right in thinking David Nevin is engaged in a religious
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;calling?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;based on what I see here and what I experienced in Macau I do have
&lt;br&gt;'callings on religious' but this is not a forum for that:-) Watch 'The
&lt;br&gt;Life of Brian' or 'The Meaning of Life'.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yes a taste of reality, sometimes a little too tasty?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Dave Nevin
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26682512</id>
	<title>(life) Re: An FET in Yushu</title>
	<published>2009-12-07T04:07:11Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-07T04:07:11Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Nancy Buswell</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Wonderful report, Dave! Thanks for sharing. I think many of us have been wondering about your job way out there in Qinghai. 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Nancy way down south in Nanning
&lt;br&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26671471</id>
	<title>(life) FET in Yushu</title>
	<published>2009-12-06T16:25:33Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-06T16:25:33Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Margaret Curtis</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Isn't it incredible. &amp;nbsp;Am I right in thinking David Nevin is engaged in a religious calling? Is that near to where I might have been? &amp;nbsp;I am saving the letter for my colloquium. &amp;nbsp;A taste of reality! &amp;nbsp;If only I were young again.......It is a truly amazing letter.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Margaret Curtis
&lt;br&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26682496</id>
	<title>Re: (life) An FET in Yushu</title>
	<published>2009-12-06T15:43:33Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-06T15:43:33Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>mary kelley</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi Dave, Hang in there. I enjoyed your perspective. When you contract is up where will you go?
&lt;br&gt;Mary
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26670706</id>
	<title>(life) Re: An FET in Yushu</title>
	<published>2009-12-06T14:56:02Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-06T14:56:02Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>sewbirdchina</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;--- In &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26670706&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;TEFLChinaLife@...&lt;/a&gt;, &amp;quot;Dave&amp;quot; &amp;lt;nevin@...&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; An FET in Yushu, Qinghai
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;We're 18 hours by bus from Xining, or an hour by air
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Fascinating Dave. I've been to Xining and had it not been for my Chinese perceived old age, I thought that would be the ultimate experience for teaching. You are truely beyond nowhere ... how on earth did you find that job? 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Nancy, US
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26669722</id>
	<title>(life) An FET in Yushu</title>
	<published>2009-12-05T17:47:49Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-05T17:47:49Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Dave-208</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">An FET in Yushu, Qinghai
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There probably aren't many places in China where an FET can sit in his
&lt;br&gt;doorway at lunchtime, a brilliant blue sky with a hot sun, watching
&lt;br&gt;vultures soaring over grassy hills looking for something they can practise
&lt;br&gt;SkyBurial101 on. And watch yaks mooching across the hillsides, 500m away.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Where 'running water' is something in the river. Household water comes
&lt;br&gt;from a well, pumped into a bucket and carried inside, til it's scooped
&lt;br&gt;into pots/kettles or whatever. Some don't have a pump, have a bucket on a
&lt;br&gt;rope. And my pump/hose freezes now if I leave water in the hose.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Where a 'shower' is rain and if you want to soak in hot water, you go
&lt;br&gt;downtown (bus 1rmb) to a Japanese style bathhouse, which has a hot pool
&lt;br&gt;and steam room. Or you can go to a shower house, with cubicles..
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Where going to the toilet involves crossing the yard to the short-drop WC.
&lt;br&gt;3 steps up to a slot in the floor, in a little hut thing, a shortdrop,
&lt;br&gt;compared to New Zealand's traditional longdrops.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Traditional Tibetan houses are adobe/mud brick with a 'flat' roof, in a
&lt;br&gt;corner of a courtyard which invariably includes a Tibetan Mastiff,
&lt;br&gt;permanently chained up :-((, as watch-dog. The WC is built against the
&lt;br&gt;exterior courtyard wall, with a little door at street level.. We're told
&lt;br&gt;farmers used to buy townies' sh*t, clean out the shortdrop WCs. Now the
&lt;br&gt;farmers buy fertilizer and townies have to pay to have their WCs emptied.
&lt;br&gt;They don't pay. They don't empty. Hence the pong, and I suspect, hence the
&lt;br&gt;diarrhea in the NGO's bog. One local tells me flies don't spread disease
&lt;br&gt;:-) &amp;nbsp;First week in October is cool enough the flies have mostly gone, or
&lt;br&gt;it's too cold for them to wake up.
&lt;br&gt;Old town was built on gentle slopes on the north side of the valley.
&lt;br&gt;Houses all face the sun, south. Modern town spread onto the flat valley
&lt;br&gt;floor, which did have trees and grass. Old town has waterstands which the
&lt;br&gt;locals carry buckets to and from. The school lights fires around it's
&lt;br&gt;waterstands to melt the ice (December) so the kids can mop the floors..
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There's a 'modern Chinese' house, with a tiled gabled roof, which I
&lt;br&gt;suspect must be colder than the 40cm of earth/timber of the flat roof.
&lt;br&gt;These look 1950s/60s and some are quiet fancy inside, panelling and
&lt;br&gt;suchlike. Mine has a glasshouse attached, which gets pretty warm when the
&lt;br&gt;sun's out. 2 rooms, 6x6 metres, a kitchen and a brm.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And there's really modern, 2 or 3 years old, 2 storied, big double glazed
&lt;br&gt;windows, but with the same pumped water. Waste disposal? throw it out the
&lt;br&gt;door..some houses have a little drain to take it out to the street. &amp;nbsp;And
&lt;br&gt;the WC is still across the yard...with a little drain to the street.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kitchen is a 2 burner CNG gas cooker, and I borrowed an electric oven.
&lt;br&gt;Heating is the 'traditional' electric element, exposed wires, which would
&lt;br&gt;horrify an NZ electrician, but does work. I've got a 'Chinese' coal
&lt;br&gt;burning stove which was to be replaced with a Tibetan design, and I was
&lt;br&gt;supposed to get a load of dried yak dung but neither happened. (It's not
&lt;br&gt;cold yet). Yak dung burns pretty fast. It wasn't cold yet....
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Food is what you like, especially very large lumps of yak, or goats (they
&lt;br&gt;roam semi-wild through town/school) or fresh pork or chickens /frozen and
&lt;br&gt;some fish. Peanut butter, Dove chocolate, most veges and fruit. Potatoes,
&lt;br&gt;kumara, squash, greens (hothouses on edge of town), cilantro!
&lt;br&gt;A bunch of ladies sell yak milk, yak yoghurt in 3.5kgbuckets, and butter.
&lt;br&gt;Lots of Angel yeast for sale, bicarb and something I have to check on the
&lt;br&gt;'net - Mono-carb which is the local version of baking powder.
&lt;br&gt;The locals like moon cakes of the 5 Nuts/Wu ren variety so they're
&lt;br&gt;available all year, a good alternative for muesli bars/biscuits. They even
&lt;br&gt;add dates !
&lt;br&gt;Today I found cartons of frozen New Zealand mutton, which is pretty funny
&lt;br&gt;considering where this place is. It was enormously fatty...I'll try
&lt;br&gt;roasting some. The same guy has lumps of yak and a mincer, so I bought 2
&lt;br&gt;pounds of minced yak/ground beef to you'se Americans.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So living here is a bit like holidays in a cabin/bach/mountain hut back in
&lt;br&gt;the '50s.
&lt;br&gt;We're 18 hours by bus from Xining, or an hour by air, 1300rmb. Town is
&lt;br&gt;3700m asl and the hills up to 5,000m, so it's not a huge mountain
&lt;br&gt;landscape, just high up. Trees will grow if nothing eats them, there's a
&lt;br&gt;few protected copse and woodlots I imagine belong to temples so they can
&lt;br&gt;rebuild. And a few cypress sp. on cliffs where the goats can't get them,
&lt;br&gt;but otherwise it's all grass, for about 500 miles west, or further.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The local drivers still think they're riding a horse. Consequently if they
&lt;br&gt;do a U-turn in traffic, the other horses will notice and give way. So far,
&lt;br&gt;in a month, I've only seen one bump! Yesterday one of the Black Car
&lt;br&gt;People, in a Cadillac(but a small one) decided to join traffic in front of
&lt;br&gt;our taxi. Our taxi had a CD holder on the back of the sun visor and a
&lt;br&gt;small screen on the rear-vision mirror, but he wasnt' giving way to a
&lt;br&gt;Cadillac. Trucks and big buses tend to think they're a bigger horse, hence
&lt;br&gt;a lot of loud honking. I doubt a loaded truck stops very quickly.... Down
&lt;br&gt;town has little sandwich boards in the middle of the street, No Honking!
&lt;br&gt;But the horses' owners are pretty tolerant of sudden u-turns, and of 
&lt;br&gt;cars/bikes/3wheelers/goats/yaks/people blocking half the street. Some
&lt;br&gt;wait, some just drive on the other side of the road.
&lt;br&gt;Some don't wanta tire their horse, so they drive along happily at
&lt;br&gt;20m/h...and the guy who bought us back to town last week, 50-60km/h, but
&lt;br&gt;in the dark. His Landcruiser never gonna wear out, at that speed. But
&lt;br&gt;younger guys tend to drive faster and some taxi-vans go pretty fast, at
&lt;br&gt;least on the flat.
&lt;br&gt;Incidentally I haven't seen anyone rding a horse, it's all 150 and 200cc
&lt;br&gt;motorbikes..
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;School? This is an ETP program, accelerated to get kids through 6 years of
&lt;br&gt;middle/junior and high/senior school English in 3 years. So we're doing 2
&lt;br&gt;books a semester, at 2 units a week. &amp;nbsp;These are supposed to be bright kids
&lt;br&gt;and the better third of the class are doing well. The middle third keep up
&lt;br&gt;just, and the bottom third should be sent back to ordinary school, but
&lt;br&gt;that's not on the NGO's agenda.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My kids had G-T teaching last year, (Peace Corp tefl trained teacher) but
&lt;br&gt;this year its collaborative and communicative. Last year's tests were, use
&lt;br&gt;the past continuous perfect (whatever) to fill the gaps. This year, answer
&lt;br&gt;the question - what were you doing last Sunday? (Maybe G-T teach is okay
&lt;br&gt;for first year, those that paid attention can write a coherent paragraph,
&lt;br&gt;and I'm using Murphy/Azar to review the gaps)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Arts stream will sit Chinese Gaokao/CEE and science stream will sit
&lt;br&gt;Tibetan CEE. So the science kids don't officially have English class but I
&lt;br&gt;tutor them for an hour or so 3 evenings a week. Arts get 13 lessons a week
&lt;br&gt;of English and a movie, if they come.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kids are from all over Yushu prefecture, which might be the size of NZ.
&lt;br&gt;They take 30 a year but the selection process is not obvious...They are
&lt;br&gt;supposed to be the brightest and best but that isn't obvious either.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Classrooms have a blackboard. And a CD player, which I haven't used. The
&lt;br&gt;local NGO has a large room, with a big TV so we can play a movie on
&lt;br&gt;Saturday - that's the extent of their listening :-( apart from listening
&lt;br&gt;to us... &amp;nbsp;There's a report of a large room with a projector/AV and I must
&lt;br&gt;see if I can use it. Dunno if it has sound.
&lt;br&gt;We buy our own chalk at 1rmb a box.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I was interested to come here partly cos they're Buddhist and hence have
&lt;br&gt;avoided the Confucian Heritage Culture which leads to rote learning,
&lt;br&gt;copying, and learning about a subject without learning to use it. I
&lt;br&gt;suspect Buddhist learning may in fact be similar to Confucian but I won't
&lt;br&gt;comment til I've been here longer. The kids do have an openness/eagerness
&lt;br&gt;that I don't recall from Changsha or Macau. Some were, but more of these
&lt;br&gt;are so. They have a laziness too....but if they can sell &amp;nbsp;a mastiff for
&lt;br&gt;500,000rmb, who needs schooling??? Or get a year's income from one month
&lt;br&gt;digging caterpillar fungus...
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There's an ETP program in Xining, at Xining Normal U. The results I've
&lt;br&gt;talked to, are very good. There's also a surprising number of adults who
&lt;br&gt;have been to India and learnt English there. Taxi drivers, security
&lt;br&gt;guards, others, monks, a variety have done the Indian thing.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We have weekly meetings, 3 FETs, the NGO, 3 class teachers and 2-3
&lt;br&gt;students from each class. Very democratic except the school doesn't tell
&lt;br&gt;us anything, like the last 4 Saturdays they've have other activities and
&lt;br&gt;classes were cancelled. This last Saturday, we said there's a test. No
&lt;br&gt;result, Fail. All of mine turned up. As there was no electriticity that
&lt;br&gt;morning, I wrote it on the board... and as they'd been square bashing from
&lt;br&gt;9am-1230 (in brilliant sunshine at minus 5 celsius) and the test was at
&lt;br&gt;1pm, I only wrote 2/3 and scored it out of 20.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The school is an attached high school to a vocational school. It's lazy.
&lt;br&gt;The last 5 Saturday's classes have been cancelled for disinfection, drama
&lt;br&gt;show, marching, concert and this week's excuse - dancing. While I disliked
&lt;br&gt;the Hunan schools' fixation with study, study, and exam results, the
&lt;br&gt;opposite is equally damaging to student's chances of getting to
&lt;br&gt;university. However the chatty S3 student thinks having a life is more
&lt;br&gt;important than getting square eyes. Incidentally very few wear glasses -
&lt;br&gt;an indication of lack of study?
&lt;br&gt;And they all have light brown eyes.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;They don't think ! &amp;nbsp;They are suffering from Chinese trained teachers, just
&lt;br&gt;do the exercises, learn the answers, so I spend &amp;quot;half my time&amp;quot; getting
&lt;br&gt;them to think what they're doing, read the instructions.... &amp;nbsp;.. more on
&lt;br&gt;that later..and the outgoing S2 who comes to English Corner tells me her
&lt;br&gt;English class, in another high school, is non-speaking :-((
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Dave Nevin
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26660298</id>
	<title>(life) Taishan:  old &quot;western-inspired&quot; homes</title>
	<published>2009-12-05T14:58:46Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-05T14:58:46Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>karenstanleyma-3</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">This article about crumbling old homes modeled to some extent after western fortresses/towers has interesting photos. &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/04/world/asia/04taishan.html?emc=tnt&amp;tntemail1=y&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/04/world/asia/04taishan.html?emc=tnt&amp;tntemail1=y&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;or
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://tinyurl.com/yguab7n&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://tinyurl.com/yguab7n&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;excerpt:
&lt;br&gt;----------------
&lt;br&gt;Most were built in the early 20th century by overseas Chinese who returned from abroad with newfound wealth and an abiding fear of being parted from that wealth by bandits. So up went the fortress towers, an architectural amalgamation of Chinese mansion and European medieval castle. 
&lt;br&gt;----------------
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It appears, as the houses age and many of the owners have left, the structures are falling into ruin.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Karen
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26656473</id>
	<title>(life) Shanghai Automotive (SAIC) and General Motors (GM)</title>
	<published>2009-12-05T07:12:38Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-05T07:12:38Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>karenstanleyma-3</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">General Motors sold an additional 1% of its China operation to Shanghai Automotive Industry Corporation, giving SAIC 51% (a controlling interest).
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/05/business/global/05gm.html?emc=tnt&amp;tntemail1=y&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/05/business/global/05gm.html?emc=tnt&amp;tntemail1=y&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;or
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://tinyurl.com/yj9jxg2&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://tinyurl.com/yj9jxg2&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In addition, GM and SAIC have a set up a separate joint venture. &amp;nbsp;Since GM is contributing its India operations to that venture, it means that SAIC will essentially have a 50% interest in GM operations in India.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Karen
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26636090</id>
	<title>Re: (life) EnglishUK E-petition - if you agree please sign</title>
	<published>2009-12-04T07:29:18Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-04T07:29:18Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Alan Simpson-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Moderator Note: &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;I think there's room for some debate on this, but if it begins to go on too long, gets too far afield, or becomes too heated, I may politely bring it to an end.
&lt;br&gt;Karen
&lt;br&gt;--------------------------------------
&lt;br&gt;I just read that one in four people in the entire population of England is now in education or training, according to a BBC report.
&lt;br&gt;The figures mean that for every two people in work, there are more than one person in education.
&lt;br&gt;Hardly sustainable.
&lt;br&gt;Alan Simpson
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26643246</id>
	<title>Re: (life) EnglishUK E-petition</title>
	<published>2009-12-04T02:55:34Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-04T02:55:34Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Stephanie Noke</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">As I am not based in UK, I checked with some experienced professionals and good friends in the industry in UK, and according to them, there are good points in the new Tier 4 legislation (only approved schools, students have to show they have sufficient funds to cover living expenses) but it does exclude new entrants who are not approved (do not have premises, accreditation, are sole traders, ...). &amp;nbsp;It will also exclude some students who do not have sufficient funds to cover the proscribed living expenses (set at 600 GBP per month outside London and 800 GBP per month in London). &amp;nbsp;If this reduces the number of students coming in, it could be difficult in the industry. &amp;nbsp;There may be other reasons but these are the main two we identified.
&lt;br&gt;Stephanie
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ----- Original Message -----
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; From: &amp;quot;Marc Anthony&amp;quot; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26643246&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;amitofo2006@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I cannot tell from the petition's rhetoric how this legislation threatens
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; the &amp;quot;English language teaching sector.&amp;quot; &amp;nbsp; Perhaps the poster would explain
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; why this legislation would restrict &amp;quot;bona-fide students&amp;quot; and threaten the
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; ESL industry in the UK.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; What are these changes exactly?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26636069</id>
	<title>Re: (life) Santa's New Elves: A Politically Incorrect Christmas</title>
	<published>2009-12-03T12:30:44Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-03T12:30:44Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>sheila swanson</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Jada, 
&lt;br&gt;Thanks for the reminder.
&lt;br&gt;Sheila
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So the next time you shop 
&lt;br&gt;At big box retail 
&lt;br&gt;Stores like Wal*mart or Kmart 
&lt;br&gt;That have a big sale 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Remember the girls 
&lt;br&gt;Who made your toys 
&lt;br&gt;Cause they work for so little 
&lt;br&gt;For us big boys 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Merry Christmas to all on the boards!
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jada Rufo
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26614394</id>
	<title>Re: (life) EnglishUK E-petition - if you agree please sign</title>
	<published>2009-12-02T07:45:05Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-02T07:45:05Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Marc Anthony-2</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">I cannot tell from the petition's rhetoric how this legislation threatens
&lt;br&gt;the &amp;quot;English language teaching sector.&amp;quot; &amp;nbsp; Perhaps the poster would explain
&lt;br&gt;why this legislation would restrict &amp;quot;bona-fide students&amp;quot; and threaten the
&lt;br&gt;ESL industry in the UK.
&lt;br&gt;What are these changes exactly?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;M. Anthony
&lt;br&gt;Taiwan
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hi!
&lt;br&gt;Forgive me for sending this to a China list, but English teaching in
&lt;br&gt;UK is under threat and needs all the help it can get. &amp;nbsp;If you are a
&lt;br&gt;British citizen or resident and care about the English Teaching
&lt;br&gt;&amp;quot;industry&amp;quot; surviving in UK, please check this out and sign it.
&lt;br&gt;Stephanie
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26610826</id>
	<title>(life) EnglishUK E-petition - if you agree please sign</title>
	<published>2009-12-02T04:06:33Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-02T04:06:33Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Stephanie Noke</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Happy UAE National Day!
&lt;br&gt;Further to my earlier message, unfortunately the link to the petition was missing. &amp;nbsp;Here is the original message with the link plus details again from the petiion creator. &amp;nbsp;If you agree and are eligible, please sign. &amp;nbsp;Thanks.
&lt;br&gt;Stephanie
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hi!
&lt;br&gt;Forgive me for sending this to a China list, but English teaching in
&lt;br&gt;UK is under threat and needs all the help it can get.  If you are a
&lt;br&gt;British citizen or resident and care about the English Teaching
&lt;br&gt;&amp;quot;industry&amp;quot; surviving in UK, please check this out and sign it.
&lt;br&gt;Stephanie
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Below are details from petition creator:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;quot;The Government is on the threshold of destroying one of its
&lt;br&gt;strongest export industries, the English language teaching sector,
&lt;br&gt;worth billions of pounds annually to the UK in visible and
&lt;br&gt;invisible exports. Tier 4 of The PBS, launched in April, brought
&lt;br&gt;sweeping changes to the intl education sector. The govts aim was
&lt;br&gt;to rid the UK of bogus colleges, which were not just a security
&lt;br&gt;threat but also a blot on the UKs unassailable reputation in
&lt;br&gt;education. This work has not been completed. A further aim was to
&lt;br&gt;streamline the issuing of study visas. Some changes were welcome,
&lt;br&gt;others serve only to turn bona fide students away from the UK. The
&lt;br&gt;govt now aims to further restrict intl students from studying in
&lt;br&gt;the UK. That will devastate this vibrant and highly professional
&lt;br&gt;industry, leading to mass redundancies in language schools,
&lt;br&gt;secondary schools, colleges &amp; universities, with huge losses to the
&lt;br&gt;economy and Treasury. The English language is a crown Jewel  lets
&lt;br&gt;protect and nurture it!&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;------------------------------------------------------------------------
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;From:&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26610826&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;EnglishUK@...&lt;/a&gt; [mailto:&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26610826&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;EnglishUK@...&lt;/a&gt;]
&lt;br&gt;On Behalf Of Shane Wilkinson
&lt;br&gt;Sent: 23 November 2009 17:10
&lt;br&gt;To: &lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26610826&amp;i=2&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;EnglishUK@...&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;br&gt;Subject: [EnglishUK] E-petition PLEASE SIGN!! [Scanned]
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Petition is now live at &lt;a href=&quot;http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/PBSReview/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/PBSReview/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Please send to everyone (staff, suppliers, homestay providers and anyone
&lt;br&gt;else you can think of) so we can build a volume of signature.  Otherwise
&lt;br&gt;it will not be noticed.  We need to get it to the top 5.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Best wishes
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Shane
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;SHANE WILKINSON
&lt;br&gt;Managing Director
&lt;br&gt;Bournemouth Business School International
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&lt;br&gt;Accreditations &amp; Memberships: British Council, ISO 9000, English UK,
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26592017</id>
	<title>(life) File - List Help and Rules</title>
	<published>2009-12-01T05:44:47Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-01T05:44:47Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>TEFLChina (life) mailing list</name>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26569029</id>
	<title>Re: (life) Santa's New Elves: A Politically Incorrect Christmas</title>
	<published>2009-11-29T17:03:00Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-29T17:03:00Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>tanyujie</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jada wrote:
&lt;br&gt; 
&lt;br&gt;So the next time you shop
&lt;br&gt;At big box retail
&lt;br&gt;Stores like Wal*mart or Kmart
&lt;br&gt;That have a big sale...
&lt;br&gt; 
&lt;br&gt;I found myself in Kmart yesterday.  Could bring myself to purchase a damn thing!  Guess my conscious got the better of me.
&lt;br&gt; 
&lt;br&gt;Jada
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26564874</id>
	<title>(life) EnglishUK E-petition</title>
	<published>2009-11-29T10:26:50Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-29T10:26:50Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Stephanie Noke</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi!
&lt;br&gt;Forgive me for sending this to a China list, but English teaching in
&lt;br&gt;UK is under threat and needs all the help it can get.  If you are a
&lt;br&gt;British citizen or resident and care about the English Teaching
&lt;br&gt;&amp;quot;industry&amp;quot; surviving in UK, please check this out and sign it.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Stephanie
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Below are details from petition creator:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;quot;The Government is on the threshold of destroying one of its
&lt;br&gt;strongest export industries, the English language teaching sector,
&lt;br&gt;worth billions of pounds annually to the UK in visible and
&lt;br&gt;invisible exports. Tier 4 of The PBS, launched in April, brought
&lt;br&gt;sweeping changes to the intl education sector. The govts aim was
&lt;br&gt;to rid the UK of bogus colleges, which were not just a security
&lt;br&gt;threat but also a blot on the UKs unassailable reputation in
&lt;br&gt;education. This work has not been completed. A further aim was to
&lt;br&gt;streamline the issuing of study visas. Some changes were welcome,
&lt;br&gt;others serve only to turn bona fide students away from the UK. The
&lt;br&gt;govt now aims to further restrict intl students from studying in
&lt;br&gt;the UK. That will devastate this vibrant and highly professional
&lt;br&gt;industry, leading to mass redundancies in language schools,
&lt;br&gt;secondary schools, colleges &amp; universities, with huge losses to the
&lt;br&gt;economy and Treasury. The English language is a crown Jewel  lets
&lt;br&gt;protect and nurture it!&amp;quot;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26563147</id>
	<title>Re: (life) Santa's New Elves: A Politically Incorrect Christmas</title>
	<published>2009-11-28T22:04:57Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-28T22:04:57Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Stephanie Noke</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Jada, I love it. &amp;nbsp;Do I have your permission to send it to some other people who will or who need to appreciate it? &amp;nbsp;I will credit it to you of course.
&lt;br&gt;Stephanie
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Here's a parody that I wrote to get us into the holiday spirit.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Santa's New Elves: A Politically Incorrect Christmas
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; By Jada Rufo
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; With apologies to Clement Clark Moore
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Twas the night before the holiday
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; When all through the dorm
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Every factory girl was up
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Working up a storm
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Merry Christmas to all on the boards!
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Jada Rufo
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26558682</id>
	<title>(life) Santa's New Elves: A Politically Incorrect Christmas</title>
	<published>2009-11-28T16:51:26Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-28T16:51:26Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>tanyujie</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Here's a parody that I wrote to get us into the holiday spirit.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Santa's New Elves: A Politically Incorrect Christmas 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;By Jada Rufo 
&lt;br&gt;With apologies to Clement Clark Moore 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Twas the night before the holiday 
&lt;br&gt;When all through the dorm 
&lt;br&gt;Every factory girl was up 
&lt;br&gt;Working up a storm 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;They¡¯re not from the North Pole 
&lt;br&gt;As many would believe 
&lt;br&gt;But from places like Hunan, 
&lt;br&gt;Henan, and Jiangxi 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Their faces are not 
&lt;br&gt;Cream color white 
&lt;br&gt;But rather more yellow 
&lt;br&gt;And Asian in fright 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;They don¡¯t have names 
&lt;br&gt;Like Sunny or Lisa 
&lt;br&gt;But names like Xiao Mi, 
&lt;br&gt;Xiao Hong, or Xiao Da 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Their families are poor 
&lt;br&gt;With just enough to eat 
&lt;br&gt;Yet they somehow manage 
&lt;br&gt;To make toys on the cheap 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;They work in factories 
&lt;br&gt;In dire conditions 
&lt;br&gt;And they have to get by 
&lt;br&gt;On poor nutrition 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;They work 17 hours 
&lt;br&gt;That¡¯s 17 straight 
&lt;br&gt;On a long assembly line 
&lt;br&gt;And one bathroom break 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;They crank out the Tonkas 
&lt;br&gt;The Barbies and Wiis 
&lt;br&gt;They sew up your sneakers 
&lt;br&gt;And stuff your plushies 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;They crank out their quotas 
&lt;br&gt;Because if they don¡¯t 
&lt;br&gt;Their bosses will beat them 
&lt;br&gt;And pay them they won¡¯t 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So the next time you shop 
&lt;br&gt;At big box retail 
&lt;br&gt;Stores like Wal*mart or Kmart 
&lt;br&gt;That have a big sale 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Remember the girls 
&lt;br&gt;Who made your toys 
&lt;br&gt;Cause they work for so little 
&lt;br&gt;For us big boys 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Merry Christmas to all on the boards!
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jada Rufo
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26558170</id>
	<title>(life) Chinese Artist - AI WEIWEI</title>
	<published>2009-11-28T15:45:26Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-28T15:45:26Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>karenstanleyma-3</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">This is an article about a very interesting Chinese artist who has produced controversial art and voiced controversial opinions:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/28/world/asia/28weiwei.html?emc=tnt&amp;tntemail1=y&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/28/world/asia/28weiwei.html?emc=tnt&amp;tntemail1=y&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;or
&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://tinyurl.com/yjnch8c&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://tinyurl.com/yjnch8c&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;excerpt:
&lt;br&gt;---------------------
&lt;br&gt;At 52, Mr. Ai, a beefy, bearded man with an air of almost monastic composure, is an international figure in the art world, successful beyond what anyone might have predicted even a decade ago. He is a celebrated architect, a co-designer of Beijing's landmark Bird's Nest Olympic stadium, an installation artist and a documentary filmmaker with a 100-member staff.
&lt;br&gt;---------------------
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Karen
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</content>
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26537345</id>
	<title>Re: (life) for those celebrating Thanksgiving</title>
	<published>2009-11-26T17:59:28Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-26T17:59:28Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Thomas Krickl</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;--- On Wed, 11/25/09, Philip VanZandt &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26537345&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;vansos@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;HAVE A REALLY GREAT THANKSGIVING HOLIDAY!
&lt;br&gt;Phil VanZandt 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thank you, Phil. &amp;nbsp;For any Yank in Beijing who wants to celebrate Thanksgiving, the German deli in the Lido Hotel takes orders for turkeys and does the cooking too. &amp;nbsp;I introduced my Chinese and Australian colleagues to a Thanksgiving dinner this way. &amp;nbsp;It cost 535 rmb a few years ago for a 15-pound bird. &amp;nbsp;It was worth it. &amp;nbsp;Happy Thanksgiving to all.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Tom K.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26524105</id>
	<title>(life) for those celebrating Thanksgiving</title>
	<published>2009-11-25T09:33:29Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-25T09:33:29Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Philip VanZandt</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">HAVE A REALLY GREAT THANKSGIVING HOLIDAY!
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Phil VanZandt &amp;nbsp;		 	 &amp;nbsp; 		 &amp;nbsp;
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26511954</id>
	<title>Re: (life) EMS (was Slow Boat FROM China)</title>
	<published>2009-11-24T22:20:40Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-24T22:20:40Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Charlotte Edwards</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">I used EMS from HeBei (live 2 hrs. south of Beijing) to my mom in Wisconsin to send her my tax papers since I couldn't file online. I'm thinking it was about 160 or 180 yuan and took just under a week.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I was happy with the service. Even at the post office the papers were easy to fill out and I was there for just a few minutes.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;However my mom's mail carrier was unhappy since it messed up her route for the day. She told my mom that EMS packages must be delievered before 11am and my mom usually gets her mail at 2 or 3 pm.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Charlotte
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26511868</id>
	<title>Re: (life) Slow Boat FROM China</title>
	<published>2009-11-24T18:52:56Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-24T18:52:56Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>John Pullen</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi Jada - &amp;nbsp;Why are you changing locations again? &amp;nbsp;How many different places have you been over all these years? &amp;nbsp;Are you just trying many different schools for a special purpose?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;john     Life's a journey not a destination, help others along the way.
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26502999</id>
	<title>(life) EMS (was Slow Boat FROM China)</title>
	<published>2009-11-24T10:55:08Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-24T10:55:08Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>tanyujie</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Aloha,
&lt;br&gt; 
&lt;br&gt;Thanks to all who have responded to my question about snail mail from China.
&lt;br&gt; 
&lt;br&gt;I have another question.  An American friend of mine had a document sent to her in Oregon from China by her Chinese husband through EMS.  He had to pay an arm and a leg for it to be expressed to her within one week; about 200 RMB.
&lt;br&gt; 
&lt;br&gt;I've never used EMS and I was wondering about their services.  Are they reliable as my friend has told me?
&lt;br&gt; 
&lt;br&gt;Jada
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26472650</id>
	<title>Re: (life) getting chinese wife out of china</title>
	<published>2009-11-22T20:06:01Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-22T20:06:01Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>John Pullen</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">I know my wife does not expect to ever get anything as she is now an American Citizen and the Chinese passport was never returned to us. &amp;nbsp;In fact all of her possessions that were left in her apartment located in the Hospital dormitory disappeared. &amp;nbsp;Fat chance anything will come her way from the government.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;john     Life's a journey not a destination, help others along the way.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;Does you wife get anything for retirement after moving to another country?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; thanks
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Ron
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26472644</id>
	<title>(life) Re: Blogs Blocked</title>
	<published>2009-11-22T19:07:02Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-22T19:07:02Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Bishop Johnson</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Or you could use a VPN service. I use ExpressVPN (www.expressvpn.com) ... $12.95 amonth/$69.95 for 6. Money back guarantee; AND the IP address says you're in the U.S., so you can view a lot of the sites that don't work outside the U.S.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;KTF
&lt;br&gt;RAY
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26472640</id>
	<title>Re: (life) Slow Boat FROM China</title>
	<published>2009-11-22T17:57:10Z</published>
	<updated>2009-11-22T17:57:10Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>tanyujie</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sheila wrote:
&lt;br&gt; 
&lt;br&gt;Hopefully you'll get it soon, or a resend..... 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;I've asked my invitation to be re-sent so many times and I've asked it to be sent via Fedex or UPS because I have seen their vehicles several times rolling through my hometown.
&lt;br&gt; 
&lt;br&gt;I'm thinking maybe my letter is somewhere on the US mainland since it is cheaper to send stuff to Hawaii from Shanghai via New York?  Go figure that one out!
&lt;br&gt; 
&lt;br&gt;Jada
&lt;br&gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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