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Tcl/Tk on the iPhone
by Hans-Christoph Steiner
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Has anyone tried building Tcl/Tk on the iPhone? .hc ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Tcl-mac mailing list tcl-mac@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tcl-mac |
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Re: Tcl/Tk on the iPhone
by Uwe Kirschner
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Hi Hans,
wouldn't that require moving from Carbon to Cocoa? There was quite a bit of discussion about the future of Carbon on this mailing list a while ago. kind regards, Uwe On 16.03.2008, at 23:12, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > Has anyone tried building Tcl/Tk on the iPhone? > > .hc > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > ---- > > If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Tcl-mac mailing list > tcl-mac@... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tcl-mac ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Tcl-mac mailing list tcl-mac@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tcl-mac |
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Re: Tcl/Tk on the iPhone
by Hans-Christoph Steiner
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Right, I forgot that. I wonder if there is X11 for iPhone. Then Tcl/ Tk could be built for that. It seems there used to be, but now there is the official SDK... .hc On Mar 17, 2008, at 4:14 AM, Uwe Kirschner wrote: > Hi Hans, > wouldn't that require moving from Carbon to Cocoa? > > There was quite a bit of discussion about the future of Carbon on > this mailing list a while ago. > > kind regards, > Uwe > > > On 16.03.2008, at 23:12, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > >> >> Has anyone tried building Tcl/Tk on the iPhone? >> >> .hc >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >> -- >> ---- >> >> If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >> --- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Tcl-mac mailing list >> tcl-mac@... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tcl-mac > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Tcl-mac mailing list > tcl-mac@... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tcl-mac ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- You can't steal a gift. Bird gave the world his music, and if you can hear it, you can have it. - Dizzy Gillespie ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Tcl-mac mailing list tcl-mac@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tcl-mac |
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Re: Tcl/Tk on the iPhone
by Jim Ingham
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You are right that there is no Carbon on the phone. But also the
iPhone UIKit (the marketing name is Cocoa Touch) isn't the same as Cocoa, it's got different upper level event & drawing models. Both are ObjC and as you get into the lower layers they start looking the same, but there would be differences in the ports to Cocoa & Cocoa Touch. Jim On Mar 17, 2008, at 1:14 AM, Uwe Kirschner wrote: > Hi Hans, > wouldn't that require moving from Carbon to Cocoa? > > There was quite a bit of discussion about the future of Carbon on > this mailing list a while ago. > > kind regards, > Uwe > > > On 16.03.2008, at 23:12, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > >> >> Has anyone tried building Tcl/Tk on the iPhone? >> >> .hc >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -- >> ---- >> >> If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> --- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Tcl-mac mailing list >> tcl-mac@... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tcl-mac > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Tcl-mac mailing list > tcl-mac@... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tcl-mac ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Tcl-mac mailing list tcl-mac@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tcl-mac |
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Re: Tcl/Tk on the iPhone
by Damon Courtney
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I think you're looking more at doing what the guy who wrote
PalmTcl did. Which was basically creating a Tcl layer with hooks into the guts to make writing apps really pleasant. Then, you can use Tcl to write your apps, but you don't get Tk, you use the native routines to do whatever. Mind you, you could model your new interface after Tk and get pretty decent results. Not sure why you'd wanna' do this other than just writing in Tcl instead of ObjC, because you're going to end up writing a bunch of ObjC to get it all up and running anyway. 0-] In the end, it would be kinda' cool. Everyone will hate you because you didn't choose Python, Ruby or language of the week though. 0-] I would probably base the work around Jim though (not Jim Ingham, the Jim language) so that you can get Tcl's syntax in a very small footprint. D On Mar 20, 2008, at 12:14 PM, Jim Ingham wrote: > You are right that there is no Carbon on the phone. But also the > iPhone UIKit (the marketing name is Cocoa Touch) isn't the same as > Cocoa, it's got different upper level event & drawing models. Both > are ObjC and as you get into the lower layers they start looking the > same, but there would be differences in the ports to Cocoa & Cocoa > Touch. > > Jim > > On Mar 17, 2008, at 1:14 AM, Uwe Kirschner wrote: >> Hi Hans, >> wouldn't that require moving from Carbon to Cocoa? >> >> There was quite a bit of discussion about the future of Carbon on >> this mailing list a while ago. >> >> kind regards, >> Uwe >> >> >> On 16.03.2008, at 23:12, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >> >>> >>> Has anyone tried building Tcl/Tk on the iPhone? >>> >>> .hc >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> -- >>> ---- >>> >>> If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> --- >>> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >>> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >>> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Tcl-mac mailing list >>> tcl-mac@... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tcl-mac >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Tcl-mac mailing list >> tcl-mac@... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tcl-mac > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Tcl-mac mailing list > tcl-mac@... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tcl-mac ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Tcl-mac mailing list tcl-mac@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tcl-mac |
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Re: Tcl/Tk on the iPhone
by J. Todd Slack-Moehrle
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Hi All,
I have some free time, I could port from Carbon to Cocoa, I have done this many a times for other companies. Does anyone think this would be a good idea and a worthwhile undertaking? I have the next 6+ months... -Jason On 3/20/08 10:14 AM, "Jim Ingham" <jingham@...> wrote: > You are right that there is no Carbon on the phone. But also the > iPhone UIKit (the marketing name is Cocoa Touch) isn't the same as > Cocoa, it's got different upper level event & drawing models. Both > are ObjC and as you get into the lower layers they start looking the > same, but there would be differences in the ports to Cocoa & Cocoa > Touch. > > Jim > > On Mar 17, 2008, at 1:14 AM, Uwe Kirschner wrote: >> Hi Hans, >> wouldn't that require moving from Carbon to Cocoa? >> >> There was quite a bit of discussion about the future of Carbon on >> this mailing list a while ago. >> >> kind regards, >> Uwe >> >> >> On 16.03.2008, at 23:12, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >> >>> >>> Has anyone tried building Tcl/Tk on the iPhone? >>> >>> .hc >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> -- >>> ---- >>> >>> If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> --- >>> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >>> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >>> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Tcl-mac mailing list >>> tcl-mac@... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tcl-mac >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Tcl-mac mailing list >> tcl-mac@... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tcl-mac > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Tcl-mac mailing list > tcl-mac@... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tcl-mac ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Tcl-mac mailing list tcl-mac@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tcl-mac |
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Re: Tcl/Tk on the iPhone
by Tim Jones-2
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On Mar 20, 2008, at 3:54 PM, J. Todd Slack wrote: > Hi All, > > I have some free time, I could port from Carbon to Cocoa, I have > done this many a times for other companies. Does anyone think this > would be a good idea and a worthwhile undertaking? I have the next 6 > + months... If you were to accomplish that, many, many, many TCL/TK fans would worship you openly at Starbucks shops all over this planet :-). And, you could probably get your own channel on Sirius. Such a success would definitely move me more into the TCL/TK camp for more than simple tools. Tim ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Tcl-mac mailing list tcl-mac@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tcl-mac |
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Re: Tcl/Tk on the iPhone
by J. Todd Slack-Moehrle
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Hi Tim, Well if enough people here think that it would be beneficial, I am happy to work on it and blog my progress. I have the next 6+ months at least of down time from corporate BS. Maybe people here can help me formulate a game plan? Jason On 3/20/08 4:10 PM, "Tim Jones" <tjmac@...> wrote: > > On Mar 20, 2008, at 3:54 PM, J. Todd Slack wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> I have some free time, I could port from Carbon to Cocoa, I have >> done this many a times for other companies. Does anyone think this >> would be a good idea and a worthwhile undertaking? I have the next 6 >> + months... > > If you were to accomplish that, many, many, many TCL/TK fans would > worship you openly at Starbucks shops all over this planet :-). And, > you could probably get your own channel on Sirius. > > Such a success would definitely move me more into the TCL/TK camp for > more than simple tools. > > Tim > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Tcl-mac mailing list > tcl-mac@... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tcl-mac ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Tcl-mac mailing list tcl-mac@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tcl-mac |
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Re: Tcl/Tk on the iPhone
by Jim DeVona
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On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 7:14 PM, J. Todd Slack
<mailinglists@...> wrote: > Hi Tim, > > Well if enough people here think that it would be beneficial, I am happy to > work on it and blog my progress. I have the next 6+ months at least of down > time from corporate BS. > > Maybe people here can help me formulate a game plan? > > Jason Although I am not knowledgeable about the particular challenges of porting Tcl/Tk to Cocoa (for the iPhone or the Mac), I get the impression it would be a valuable step in the long-range life of Tcl/Tk on the Mac, and therefore a welcome effort. I see that some Cocoa work has been listed as an idea for a Google "Summer of Code" project. I don't know much about that program, but the description is here: http://wiki.tcl.tk/20832#pagetoc8a734dd7 I remember there have been a few threads in the past year or so about Cocoa, such as http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Mail/Message/tcl-mac/3505520 Kevin Walzer has written about the Tcl/Tk Carbon/Cocoa issue, too: http://www.codebykevin.com/blosxom.cgi Jim ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Tcl-mac mailing list tcl-mac@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tcl-mac |
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Re: Tcl/Tk on the iPhone
by Kevin Walzer-5
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J. Todd Slack wrote:
> Hi Tim, > > Well if enough people here think that it would be beneficial, I am happy to > work on it and blog my progress. I have the next 6+ months at least of down > time from corporate BS. > > Maybe people here can help me formulate a game plan? > > Jason > Not sure what the game plan should be, but I for one salute your efforts. Perhaps Daniel Steffen or Jim Ingham can chime in with more detail about possible approaches to take. -- Kevin Walzer Code by Kevin http://www.codebykevin.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Tcl-mac mailing list tcl-mac@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tcl-mac |
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Re: Tcl/Tk on the iPhone
by Steve Landers
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On 21/03/2008, at 7:54 AM, J. Todd Slack wrote: > Hi All, > > I have some free time, I could port from Carbon to Cocoa, I have > done this > many a times for other companies. Does anyone think this would be a > good > idea and a worthwhile undertaking? Is the Pope a Catholic? Jason, if you've got the time and the interest then I'm sure that many many people will appreciate the effort. Steve > On 3/20/08 10:14 AM, "Jim Ingham" <jingham@...> wrote: > >> You are right that there is no Carbon on the phone. But also the >> iPhone UIKit (the marketing name is Cocoa Touch) isn't the same as >> Cocoa, it's got different upper level event & drawing models. Both >> are ObjC and as you get into the lower layers they start looking the >> same, but there would be differences in the ports to Cocoa & Cocoa >> Touch. >> >> Jim >> >> On Mar 17, 2008, at 1:14 AM, Uwe Kirschner wrote: >>> Hi Hans, >>> wouldn't that require moving from Carbon to Cocoa? >>> >>> There was quite a bit of discussion about the future of Carbon on >>> this mailing list a while ago. >>> >>> kind regards, >>> Uwe >>> >>> >>> On 16.03.2008, at 23:12, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Has anyone tried building Tcl/Tk on the iPhone? >>>> >>>> .hc >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> -- >>>> ---- >>>> >>>> If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> --- >>>> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >>>> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >>>> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Tcl-mac mailing list >>>> tcl-mac@... >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tcl-mac >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >>> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >>> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Tcl-mac mailing list >>> tcl-mac@... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tcl-mac >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Tcl-mac mailing list >> tcl-mac@... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tcl-mac > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Tcl-mac mailing list > tcl-mac@... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tcl-mac ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Tcl-mac mailing list tcl-mac@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tcl-mac |
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Re: Tcl/Tk on the iPhone
by David Zolli
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Le 20 mars 08 à 23:54, J. Todd Slack a écrit :
> I have some free time, I could port from Carbon to Cocoa, I have > done this > many a times for other companies. Does anyone think this would be a > good > idea and a worthwhile undertaking? I have the next 6+ months... Of course it is! I have no skill to help you for this (except testing) but your effort will be very welcome all over the (mac || tcl)world. -- David Zolli kroc@... http://www.kroc.tk ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Tcl-mac mailing list tcl-mac@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tcl-mac |
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Re: Tcl/Tk on the iPhone
by Hans-Christoph Steiner
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I throw in my words of support, I think it sounds like a very good project to bring Tcl up to date. :) .hc On Mar 21, 2008, at 12:25 AM, Steve Landers wrote: > > On 21/03/2008, at 7:54 AM, J. Todd Slack wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> I have some free time, I could port from Carbon to Cocoa, I have >> done this >> many a times for other companies. Does anyone think this would be a >> good >> idea and a worthwhile undertaking? > > Is the Pope a Catholic? > > Jason, if you've got the time and the interest then I'm sure that many > many people will appreciate the effort. > > Steve > >> On 3/20/08 10:14 AM, "Jim Ingham" <jingham@...> wrote: >> >>> You are right that there is no Carbon on the phone. But also the >>> iPhone UIKit (the marketing name is Cocoa Touch) isn't the same as >>> Cocoa, it's got different upper level event & drawing models. Both >>> are ObjC and as you get into the lower layers they start looking the >>> same, but there would be differences in the ports to Cocoa & Cocoa >>> Touch. >>> >>> Jim >>> >>> On Mar 17, 2008, at 1:14 AM, Uwe Kirschner wrote: >>>> Hi Hans, >>>> wouldn't that require moving from Carbon to Cocoa? >>>> >>>> There was quite a bit of discussion about the future of Carbon on >>>> this mailing list a while ago. >>>> >>>> kind regards, >>>> Uwe >>>> >>>> >>>> On 16.03.2008, at 23:12, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Has anyone tried building Tcl/Tk on the iPhone? >>>>> >>>>> .hc >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> ---- >>>>> -- >>>>> ---- >>>>> >>>>> If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> ---- >>>>> --- >>>>> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >>>>> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >>>>> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Tcl-mac mailing list >>>>> tcl-mac@... >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tcl-mac >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> ------ >>>> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >>>> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >>>> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Tcl-mac mailing list >>>> tcl-mac@... >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tcl-mac >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> ----- >>> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >>> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >>> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Tcl-mac mailing list >>> tcl-mac@... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tcl-mac >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ---- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Tcl-mac mailing list >> tcl-mac@... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tcl-mac > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Tcl-mac mailing list > tcl-mac@... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tcl-mac ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Tcl-mac mailing list tcl-mac@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tcl-mac |
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Re: Tcl/Tk on the iPhone
by J. Todd Slack-Moehrle
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Hi All,
OK, well since a lot of people think this is worth while, I will start doing this and I will blog my progress. I will post a URL to the blog in a few days, I am re-arranging my web hosting now based upon some other business items. Feel free to contact me anytime for an update. -Jason On Mar 22, 2008, at 1:59 PM, Torsten Berg wrote: > >> I could port from Carbon to Cocoa, I have done this >> many a times for other companies. Does anyone think this would be a >> good idea and a worthwhile undertaking? >>> > > > This would be fantastic! It is definitely worth the work, however > hard it may be (I can't tell). > > Although it would be a great thing to have Tcl on the iPhone (would > make it even harder for me not to buy it) I woud propose to focus on > Tcl for the Mac in the first place. The user community is much larger > there, and I would assume help is nearer too. And, Tcl and Tk already > run on the Mac, so this is a good place to start, while the iPhone > doesn't even have Tcl now. Is there a Tcl version for the iPhone CPU > (ARM?) anyway? > > Torsten > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Tcl-mac mailing list > tcl-mac@... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tcl-mac ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Tcl-mac mailing list tcl-mac@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tcl-mac |
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Re: Tcl/Tk on the iPhone
by Jeff Hobbs
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Hi Jason,
Looking forward to watching the progress. FWIW, Tcl has been compiled for ARM processors before, but Linux or Windows/CE based. I imagine the Tcl part shouldn't be that hard. On the Cocoa/Tk side, that will be interesting. Feel free to mail the list or me directly if you have any compile issues. Cocoa is not an area I have much experience in, but it's all just code, right? I have a Mac and an iPod touch, but no iPhone, when it comes to testing. Jeff J. Todd Slack wrote: > Hi All, > > OK, well since a lot of people think this is worth while, I will start > doing this and I will blog my progress. > > I will post a URL to the blog in a few days, I am re-arranging my web > hosting now based upon some other business items. > > Feel free to contact me anytime for an update. > > -Jason > > > On Mar 22, 2008, at 1:59 PM, Torsten Berg wrote: > >>> I could port from Carbon to Cocoa, I have done this >>> many a times for other companies. Does anyone think this would be a >>> good idea and a worthwhile undertaking? >> >> This would be fantastic! It is definitely worth the work, however >> hard it may be (I can't tell). >> >> Although it would be a great thing to have Tcl on the iPhone (would >> make it even harder for me not to buy it) I woud propose to focus on >> Tcl for the Mac in the first place. The user community is much larger >> there, and I would assume help is nearer too. And, Tcl and Tk already >> run on the Mac, so this is a good place to start, while the iPhone >> doesn't even have Tcl now. Is there a Tcl version for the iPhone CPU >> (ARM?) anyway? >> >> Torsten ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Tcl-mac mailing list tcl-mac@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tcl-mac |
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Re: Tcl/Tk on the iPhone
by J. Todd Slack-Moehrle
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Hi Jeff,
Thanks! Anyone have any good ideas for a domain name to register for this? Jason On Mar 24, 2008, at 4:36 PM, Jeff Hobbs wrote: > Hi Jason, > > Looking forward to watching the progress. FWIW, Tcl has been > compiled for ARM processors before, but Linux or Windows/CE based. > I imagine the Tcl part shouldn't be that hard. On the Cocoa/Tk > side, that will be interesting. Feel free to mail the list or me > directly if you have any compile issues. Cocoa is not an area I > have much experience in, but it's all just code, right? I have a > Mac and an iPod touch, but no iPhone, when it comes to testing. > > Jeff > > J. Todd Slack wrote: >> Hi All, >> OK, well since a lot of people think this is worth while, I will >> start doing this and I will blog my progress. >> I will post a URL to the blog in a few days, I am re-arranging my >> web hosting now based upon some other business items. >> Feel free to contact me anytime for an update. >> -Jason >> On Mar 22, 2008, at 1:59 PM, Torsten Berg wrote: >>>> I could port from Carbon to Cocoa, I have done this >>>> many a times for other companies. Does anyone think this would be a >>>> good idea and a worthwhile undertaking? >>> >>> This would be fantastic! It is definitely worth the work, however >>> hard it may be (I can't tell). >>> >>> Although it would be a great thing to have Tcl on the iPhone (would >>> make it even harder for me not to buy it) I woud propose to focus on >>> Tcl for the Mac in the first place. The user community is much >>> larger >>> there, and I would assume help is nearer too. And, Tcl and Tk >>> already >>> run on the Mac, so this is a good place to start, while the iPhone >>> doesn't even have Tcl now. Is there a Tcl version for the iPhone CPU >>> (ARM?) anyway? >>> >>> Torsten ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Tcl-mac mailing list tcl-mac@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tcl-mac |
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Re: Tcl/Tk on the iPhone
by Tim Jones-2
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How about cocoatk.org or tkcocoa.org?
Tim On Mar 25, 2008, at 9:02 AM, J. Todd Slack wrote: > Hi Jeff, > > Thanks! > > Anyone have any good ideas for a domain name to register for this? > > Jason > On Mar 24, 2008, at 4:36 PM, Jeff Hobbs wrote: > >> Hi Jason, >> >> Looking forward to watching the progress. FWIW, Tcl has been >> compiled for ARM processors before, but Linux or Windows/CE based. >> I imagine the Tcl part shouldn't be that hard. On the Cocoa/Tk >> side, that will be interesting. Feel free to mail the list or me >> directly if you have any compile issues. Cocoa is not an area I >> have much experience in, but it's all just code, right? I have a >> Mac and an iPod touch, but no iPhone, when it comes to testing. >> >> Jeff >> >> J. Todd Slack wrote: >>> Hi All, >>> OK, well since a lot of people think this is worth while, I will >>> start doing this and I will blog my progress. >>> I will post a URL to the blog in a few days, I am re-arranging my >>> web hosting now based upon some other business items. >>> Feel free to contact me anytime for an update. >>> -Jason >>> On Mar 22, 2008, at 1:59 PM, Torsten Berg wrote: >>>>> I could port from Carbon to Cocoa, I have done this >>>>> many a times for other companies. Does anyone think this would >>>>> be a >>>>> good idea and a worthwhile undertaking? >>>> >>>> This would be fantastic! It is definitely worth the work, however >>>> hard it may be (I can't tell). >>>> >>>> Although it would be a great thing to have Tcl on the iPhone (would >>>> make it even harder for me not to buy it) I woud propose to >>>> focus on >>>> Tcl for the Mac in the first place. The user community is much >>>> larger >>>> there, and I would assume help is nearer too. And, Tcl and Tk >>>> already >>>> run on the Mac, so this is a good place to start, while the iPhone >>>> doesn't even have Tcl now. Is there a Tcl version for the iPhone >>>> CPU >>>> (ARM?) anyway? >>>> >>>> Torsten > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Tcl-mac mailing list > tcl-mac@... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tcl-mac > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Tcl-mac mailing list tcl-mac@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tcl-mac |
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Re: Tcl/Tk on the iPhone
by J. Todd Slack-Moehrle
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Hi All,
Actually, I am considering starting a corporation that focuses on improving open sourced solutions. It would be a not-for-profit organization.. My attorney has provided guidance. Can anyone think of a cool company name, that is where I am stumped. My business plan still uses "unknown Name" all over the place. Jason On Mar 25, 2008, at 9:14 AM, Tim Jones wrote: > How about cocoatk.org or tkcocoa.org? > > Tim > > > > On Mar 25, 2008, at 9:02 AM, J. Todd Slack wrote: >> Hi Jeff, >> >> Thanks! >> >> Anyone have any good ideas for a domain name to register for this? >> >> Jason >> On Mar 24, 2008, at 4:36 PM, Jeff Hobbs wrote: >> >>> Hi Jason, >>> >>> Looking forward to watching the progress. FWIW, Tcl has been >>> compiled for ARM processors before, but Linux or Windows/CE based. >>> I imagine the Tcl part shouldn't be that hard. On the Cocoa/Tk >>> side, that will be interesting. Feel free to mail the list or me >>> directly if you have any compile issues. Cocoa is not an area I >>> have much experience in, but it's all just code, right? I have a >>> Mac and an iPod touch, but no iPhone, when it comes to testing. >>> >>> Jeff >>> >>> J. Todd Slack wrote: >>>> Hi All, >>>> OK, well since a lot of people think this is worth while, I will >>>> start doing this and I will blog my progress. >>>> I will post a URL to the blog in a few days, I am re-arranging my >>>> web hosting now based upon some other business items. >>>> Feel free to contact me anytime for an update. >>>> -Jason >>>> On Mar 22, 2008, at 1:59 PM, Torsten Berg wrote: >>>>>> I could port from Carbon to Cocoa, I have done this >>>>>> many a times for other companies. Does anyone think this would >>>>>> be a >>>>>> good idea and a worthwhile undertaking? >>>>> >>>>> This would be fantastic! It is definitely worth the work, however >>>>> hard it may be (I can't tell). >>>>> >>>>> Although it would be a great thing to have Tcl on the iPhone >>>>> (would >>>>> make it even harder for me not to buy it) I woud propose to >>>>> focus on >>>>> Tcl for the Mac in the first place. The user community is much >>>>> larger >>>>> there, and I would assume help is nearer too. And, Tcl and Tk >>>>> already >>>>> run on the Mac, so this is a good place to start, while the iPhone >>>>> doesn't even have Tcl now. Is there a Tcl version for the iPhone >>>>> CPU >>>>> (ARM?) anyway? >>>>> >>>>> Torsten >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> --- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >> Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. >> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Tcl-mac mailing list >> tcl-mac@... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tcl-mac >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Tcl-mac mailing list > tcl-mac@... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tcl-mac ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Tcl-mac mailing list tcl-mac@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tcl-mac |
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Re: Tcl/Tk on the iPhone
by Hans-Christoph Steiner
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I've used Tcl/Tk on GNU/Linux ARM and it works well. .hc On Mar 24, 2008, at 7:36 PM, Jeff Hobbs wrote: > Hi Jason, > > Looking forward to watching the progress. FWIW, Tcl has been compiled > for ARM processors before, but Linux or Windows/CE based. I > imagine the > Tcl part shouldn't be that hard. On the Cocoa/Tk side, that will be > interesting. Feel free to mail the list or me directly if you have > any > compile issues. Cocoa is not an area I have much experience in, but > it's all just code, right? I have a Mac and an iPod touch, but no > iPhone, when it comes to testing. > > Jeff > > J. Todd Slack wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> OK, well since a lot of people think this is worth while, I will >> start >> doing this and I will blog my progress. >> >> I will post a URL to the blog in a few days, I am re-arranging my web >> hosting now based upon some other business items. >> >> Feel free to contact me anytime for an update. >> >> -Jason >> >> >> On Mar 22, 2008, at 1:59 PM, Torsten Berg wrote: >> >>>> I could port from Carbon to Cocoa, I have done this >>>> many a times for other companies. Does anyone think this would be a >>>> good idea and a worthwhile undertaking? >>> >>> This would be fantastic! It is definitely worth the work, however >>> hard it may be (I can't tell). >>> >>> Although it would be a great thing to have Tcl on the iPhone (would >>> make it even harder for me not to buy it) I woud propose to focus on >>> Tcl for the Mac in the first place. The user community is much >>> larger >>> there, and I would assume help is nearer too. And, Tcl and Tk >>> already >>> run on the Mac, so this is a good place to start, while the iPhone >>> doesn't even have Tcl now. Is there a Tcl version for the iPhone CPU >>> (ARM?) anyway? >>> >>> Torsten > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Tcl-mac mailing list > tcl-mac@... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tcl-mac ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. - General Smedley Butler ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace _______________________________________________ Tcl-mac mailing list tcl-mac@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/tcl-mac |
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