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	<updated>2009-12-23T04:44:49Z</updated>
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26901583</id>
	<title>[ cdk-Patches-2740730 ] SSSRFinder fix</title>
	<published>2009-12-23T04:44:49Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-23T04:44:49Z</updated>
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	<content type="html">Patches item #2740730, was opened at 2009-04-07 15:34
&lt;br&gt;Message generated for change (Comment added) made by egonw
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&lt;br&gt;including the initial issue submission, for this request,
&lt;br&gt;not just the latest update.
&lt;br&gt;Category: None
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;Group: Accepted
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;Status: Closed
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;Resolution: Fixed
&lt;br&gt;Priority: 5
&lt;br&gt;Private: No
&lt;br&gt;Submitted By: Mark Rijnbeek (mark_rynbeek)
&lt;br&gt;Assigned to: Egon Willighagen (egonw)
&lt;br&gt;Summary: SSSRFinder fix
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Initial Comment:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Some issues with SSSRFinder have come to light, Ulrich Bauer has been contacted and is having a look.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I've created a new patch to make the following fixes:
&lt;br&gt;- correct implementation of methods findEssentialRings(), findRelevantRings() and findSSSR() in SSSRFinder
&lt;br&gt;- avoiding duplicate ringsets in output result (occurs with bucky balls sometimes, example handed over to Ulrich)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Initially: no files/patch attached, but see e-mail below for more info
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;_____________________________
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;------- Original Message --------
&lt;br&gt;Subject: 	Re: SSSR (CDK)
&lt;br&gt;Date: 	Mon, 6 Apr 2009 15:28:12 +0200
&lt;br&gt;From: 	Ulrich Bauer &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26901583&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;bauer@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;To: 	Mark Rijnbeek &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26901583&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;markr@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Hi Mark,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; this error seems to have crept in at revisions 5704 and 12004. Now &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; cycleBasis().cycles() is returned instead of &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; cycleBasis().relevantCycles().keySet(); similarly for the essential &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; cycles. Maybe you can fix this, I do not have my repository set up &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; and working yet.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Best regards, Ulrich
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I noticed the difference for the methods, one returns a Map, the &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; other a Collection.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; So the change would be as below ?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; public IRingSet findEssentialRings() {
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; if (atomContainer==null) {
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; return null;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; }
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; IRingSet ringSet = &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; toRingSet(atomContainer,cycleBasis().essentialCycles());
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; return ringSet;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; }
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; public IRingSet findRelevantRings() {
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; if (atomContainer==null) {
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; return null;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; }
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; IRingSet ringSet = toRingSet(atomContainer, &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; cycleBasis().relevantCycles().keySet());
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; return ringSet; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;}
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I'll ask for a patch on cdk-devel.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yes, that change looks correct. Thanks for the info about git.
&lt;br&gt;The Map returned by cycleBasis().relevantCycles() provides additional &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;information about the relevant cycles; since we are only interested in &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;the cycles themselves, the keySet() of this map is needed.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ulrich
&lt;br&gt;-----------------------------
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;----------------------------------------------------------------------
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;Comment By: Egon Willighagen (egonw)
&lt;br&gt;Date: 2009-12-23 13:44
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Message:
&lt;br&gt;Applied to master.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;----------------------------------------------------------------------
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Comment By: Mark Rijnbeek (mark_rynbeek)
&lt;br&gt;Date: 2009-10-26 18:05
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Message:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;The patch has a few shortcomings... 
&lt;br&gt;Which are?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;but most importantly, it lack unit tests...
&lt;br&gt;Done, new attachment
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;For the rest, I'd like to see it use parameterized types: List&amp;lt;Foo&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;instead of just List, etc.
&lt;br&gt;I tried for example 
&lt;br&gt;List&amp;lt;Edge&amp;gt; edges = edgesOf(vertex);
&lt;br&gt;.. but then get IDE warnings (unsound conversion), and that's because in
&lt;br&gt;org._3pq
&lt;br&gt;public java.util.List edgesOf(java.lang.Object p1) is not parameterized.
&lt;br&gt;So I won't make changes there.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;----------------------------------------------------------------------
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Comment By: Egon Willighagen (egonw)
&lt;br&gt;Date: 2009-09-18 22:53
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Message:
&lt;br&gt;The patch has a few shortcomings... but most importantly, it lack unit
&lt;br&gt;tests...
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For the rest, I'd like to see it use parameterized types: List&amp;lt;Foo&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;instead of just List, etc.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;BTW, anyone can fix such shortcomings... 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;----------------------------------------------------------------------
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Comment By: Mark Rijnbeek (mark_rynbeek)
&lt;br&gt;Date: 2009-07-27 17:59
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Message:
&lt;br&gt;Patch received from Ulrich Bauer, see attachment - git patch
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;----------------------------------------------------------------------
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Comment By: Mark Rijnbeek (mark_rynbeek)
&lt;br&gt;Date: 2009-06-10 10:28
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Message:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;More fixes should be included in this patch than just the one mentioned in
&lt;br&gt;the report. But Egon (7th april) suggested &amp;quot;Please file that quick fix
&lt;br&gt;anyway, so that we have that as back up when the other fix takes more
&lt;br&gt;time...&amp;quot; 
&lt;br&gt;Therefore the empty patch; now waiting for fixes from Ulrich (none so far
&lt;br&gt;) to be combined into one patch to fix bugs in the SSSRFinder.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I can make a &amp;nbsp;small patch just fixing what is listed in the report text.
&lt;br&gt;But I am actually not sure that those suggested lines work. I gave a bucky
&lt;br&gt;ball to the SSSRFinder with these new code lines, but got a whole new error
&lt;br&gt;thrown.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If Ulrich doesn't have time for a fix of the SSSRFinder then someone else
&lt;br&gt;will have to do it. I'll check with Chris if we should do it here at the
&lt;br&gt;EBI. It's not trivial, the bigger patch would need to fix the current
&lt;br&gt;duplicate ring sets that can occur in the output of SSSRFinder when
&lt;br&gt;processing a bucky ball.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;----------------------------------------------------------------------
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Comment By: Rajarshi Guha (rajarshi)
&lt;br&gt;Date: 2009-06-10 04:11
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Message:
&lt;br&gt;I see the changes in the text of the report and they look OK - but it would
&lt;br&gt;be useful to have a patch and associated unit tests (if relevant) that I
&lt;br&gt;could apply to a branch
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;----------------------------------------------------------------------
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Comment By: Stefan Kuhn (shk3)
&lt;br&gt;Date: 2009-06-09 17:26
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Message:
&lt;br&gt;I can't really see what's the patch here.
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	<title>Re: [Cdk-commits] SF.net SVN: cdk:[15222] jchempaint/trunk/src/main/org/openscience/ jchempaint/renderer</title>
	<published>2009-12-22T07:37:44Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-22T07:37:44Z</updated>
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		<name>Egon Willighagen-5</name>
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	<content type="html">On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 4:33 PM, Mark Rijnbeek &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26890156&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;markr@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; okay, done; restored the existing class.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Great! I'll review it for inclusion in CDK master. New classes are
&lt;br&gt;much easier to add.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Egon
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	<title>Re: [Cdk-commits] SF.net SVN: cdk:[15222]	jchempaint/trunk/src/main/org/openscience/ jchempaint/renderer</title>
	<published>2009-12-22T07:33:23Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-22T07:33:23Z</updated>
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		<name>Mark Rijnbeek</name>
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	<content type="html">hi Egon,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;okay, done; restored the existing class.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hi Mark,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I suggest to make a separate class for this, instead of changing an
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; existing color scheme.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Egon
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 3:36 PM, &amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26890118&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;mark_rynbeek@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Log Message:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; -----------
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Element colurs according to RasMol/Chime.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/jchempaint/ticket/41&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/jchempaint/ticket/41&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Modified Paths:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; --------------
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;jchempaint/trunk/src/main/org/openscience/jchempaint/renderer/RendererModel.java
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;jchempaint/trunk/src/main/org/openscience/jchempaint/renderer/color/CDK2DAtomColors.java
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Egon
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26889620</id>
	<title>Re: [Cdk-commits] SF.net SVN: cdk:[15222] jchempaint/trunk/src/main/org/openscience/ jchempaint/renderer</title>
	<published>2009-12-22T06:57:52Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-22T06:57:52Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Egon Willighagen-5</name>
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	<content type="html">Hi Mark,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I suggest to make a separate class for this, instead of changing an
&lt;br&gt;existing color scheme.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Egon
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 3:36 PM, &amp;nbsp;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26889620&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;mark_rynbeek@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Log Message:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; -----------
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Element colurs according to RasMol/Chime.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/jchempaint/ticket/41&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/jchempaint/ticket/41&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Modified Paths:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; --------------
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;    jchempaint/trunk/src/main/org/openscience/jchempaint/renderer/RendererModel.java
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;    jchempaint/trunk/src/main/org/openscience/jchempaint/renderer/color/CDK2DAtomColors.java
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Egon
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26885283</id>
	<title>Re: JavaDoc for 1.2.3 broken</title>
	<published>2009-12-22T00:38:26Z</published>
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		<name>Egon Willighagen-5</name>
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	<content type="html">On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 8:30 PM, Andrew Dalke &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26885283&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;dalke@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;  I've now written my first CDK program, and my third Java program ever. ;)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cool!
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Egon
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	<title>Re: JavaDoc for 1.2.3 broken</title>
	<published>2009-12-21T11:30:39Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-21T11:30:39Z</updated>
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		<name>Andrew Dalke</name>
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	<content type="html">Thanks for updating the link.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;I've now written my first CDK program, and my third Java program ever. ;)
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	<title>Re: JavaDoc for 1.2.3 broken</title>
	<published>2009-12-21T00:41:41Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-21T00:41:41Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Egon Willighagen-5</name>
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	<content type="html">Hi Andrew,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 3:53 AM, Andrew Dalke &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26871204&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;dalke@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; The page at
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;  &lt;a href=&quot;http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/cdk/index.php?title=Documentation&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/cdk/index.php?title=Documentation&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; links to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;  JavaDoc for 1.2.3
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; at
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;  &lt;a href=&quot;http://pele.farmbio.uu.se/nightly-1.2.3/cdk-javadoc-1.2.3/index.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://pele.farmbio.uu.se/nightly-1.2.3/cdk-javadoc-1.2.3/index.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; which does not work. Neither does changing that to 1.2.4 or 1.2.4.1
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Fixed.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Egon
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	<title>Re: JavaDoc for 1.2.3 broken</title>
	<published>2009-12-20T19:24:03Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-20T19:24:03Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Rajarshi Guha-4</name>
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	<content type="html">Looks like a bug in the nightly build (?) The correct link to the Javadocs is&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://pele.farmbio.uu.se/nightly-1.2.3/cdk-javadoc-1.2.4/index.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://pele.farmbio.uu.se/nightly-1.2.3/cdk-javadoc-1.2.4/index.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot;&gt;On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 9:53 PM, Andrew Dalke &lt;span dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26869613&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;dalke@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/span&gt; wrote:&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot; style=&quot;border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;&quot;&gt;
Hi all!&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
The page at&lt;br&gt;
  &lt;a href=&quot;http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/cdk/index.php?title=Documentation&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/cdk/index.php?title=Documentation&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
links to&lt;br&gt;
  JavaDoc for 1.2.3&lt;br&gt;
at&lt;br&gt;
  &lt;a href=&quot;http://pele.farmbio.uu.se/nightly-1.2.3/cdk-javadoc-1.2.3/index.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://pele.farmbio.uu.se/nightly-1.2.3/cdk-javadoc-1.2.3/index.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
which does not work. Neither does changing that to 1.2.4 or 1.2.4.1&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
                                Andrew&lt;br&gt;
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	<title>JavaDoc for 1.2.3 broken</title>
	<published>2009-12-20T18:53:23Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-20T18:53:23Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Andrew Dalke</name>
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	<content type="html">Hi all!
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The page at
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href=&quot;http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/cdk/index.php?title=Documentation&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/cdk/index.php?title=Documentation&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;links to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; JavaDoc for 1.2.3
&lt;br&gt;at
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;a href=&quot;http://pele.farmbio.uu.se/nightly-1.2.3/cdk-javadoc-1.2.3/index.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://pele.farmbio.uu.se/nightly-1.2.3/cdk-javadoc-1.2.3/index.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;which does not work. Neither does changing that to 1.2.4 or 1.2.4.1
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; Andrew
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26866529</id>
	<title>Re: Setting aromaticity flag with SMILESWriter</title>
	<published>2009-12-20T11:30:39Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-20T11:30:39Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Egon Willighagen-5</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Noel O'Boyle &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26866529&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;baoilleach@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Re CDK 1.2.3...
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I have been using the SMILESWriter in cinfony to write out SMILES
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; strings, but a user reported that benzene was being written out as
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; C1CCCCC1. If instead I use the SmilesGenerator, then I can
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; setUseAromaticityFlag and there is no problem.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Is it possible to setUseAromaticityFlag with the SMILESWriter, or
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; should I simply avoid using this class and use the Generator instead?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I guess this should be added to the writer too... I'll consider this a
&lt;br&gt;feature request... it's easy to implement, so ping me in about a week,
&lt;br&gt;if there is not commit yet...
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Egon
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	<title>Setting aromaticity flag with SMILESWriter</title>
	<published>2009-12-20T09:07:04Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-20T09:07:04Z</updated>
	<author>
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	<content type="html">Re CDK 1.2.3...
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have been using the SMILESWriter in cinfony to write out SMILES
&lt;br&gt;strings, but a user reported that benzene was being written out as
&lt;br&gt;C1CCCCC1. If instead I use the SmilesGenerator, then I can
&lt;br&gt;setUseAromaticityFlag and there is no problem.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Is it possible to setUseAromaticityFlag with the SMILESWriter, or
&lt;br&gt;should I simply avoid using this class and use the Generator instead?
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	<title>Re: Depricated methods</title>
	<published>2009-12-19T06:45:28Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-19T06:45:28Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Rajarshi Guha-4</name>
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	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot;&gt;On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 4:55 AM, Syed Asad Rahman &lt;span dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26855568&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;s9asad@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/span&gt; wrote:&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot; style=&quot;border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;&quot;&gt;
Hi,&lt;br&gt;
While compiling the cdk code I found these warnings in abundance for example&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
org/openscience/cdk/qsar/model/R/PLSRegressionModelFit.java:148: warning: [deprecation] org.openscience.cdk.qsar.model.R.V2M in org.openscience.cdk.qsar.model.R has been deprecated&lt;br&gt;
    [javac]         this.rmssd = V2M.VectorToMatrix(rmssd, ncase, npvar);&lt;br&gt;
    [javac]                      ^&lt;br&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;For the warnings of this type I think it might be useful to remove the model.R package from master. IMO, a statistics interface is not really core cheminformatics. Does anybody actually use classes in this pacakge?&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;blockquote class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot; style=&quot;border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;&quot;&gt;   [javac] /DebugAdductFormula.java:76: warning: [deprecation] setCharge(java.lang.Integer) in org.openscience.cdk.formula.AdductFormula has been deprecated&lt;br&gt;

    [javac]     public void setCharge(Integer charge) {&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
lastly&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
DebugAminoAcid.java:268: warning: [deprecation] getBondOrderSum(org.openscience.cdk.interfaces.IAtom) in org.openscience.cdk.AtomContainer has been deprecated&lt;br&gt;
    [javac]     public double getBondOrderSum(IAtom atom) {&lt;br&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yes, these should probably get cleaned up in master&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- &lt;br&gt;Rajarshi Guha&lt;br&gt;NIH Chemical Genomics Center&lt;br&gt;
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26853827</id>
	<title>Depricated methods</title>
	<published>2009-12-19T01:55:44Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-19T01:55:44Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Syed Asad Rahman-3</name>
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	<content type="html">Hi,
&lt;br&gt;While compiling the cdk code I found these warnings in abundance for example
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;org/openscience/cdk/qsar/model/R/PLSRegressionModelFit.java:148: warning: [deprecation] org.openscience.cdk.qsar.model.R.V2M in org.openscience.cdk.qsar.model.R has been deprecated
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; [javac] &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; this.rmssd = V2M.VectorToMatrix(rmssd, ncase, npvar);
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; [javac] &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;^
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;secondly 
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; [javac] /DebugAdductFormula.java:76: warning: [deprecation] setCharge(java.lang.Integer) in org.openscience.cdk.formula.AdductFormula has been deprecated
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; [javac] 	public void setCharge(Integer charge) {
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;lastly
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;DebugAminoAcid.java:268: warning: [deprecation] getBondOrderSum(org.openscience.cdk.interfaces.IAtom) in org.openscience.cdk.AtomContainer has been deprecated
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; [javac] 	public double getBondOrderSum(IAtom atom) {
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Dr. Syed Asad Rahman
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26814284</id>
	<title>Re: CarbonConnectivityOrderZeroDescriptor</title>
	<published>2009-12-16T08:43:07Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-16T08:43:07Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Rajarshi Guha-4</name>
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	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot;&gt;On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Stefan Kuhn &lt;span dir=&quot;ltr&quot;&gt;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26814284&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;stefan.kuhn@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;&lt;/span&gt; wrote:&lt;br&gt;&lt;blockquote class=&quot;gmail_quote&quot; style=&quot;border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;&quot;&gt;
Hm, I just looked at the Chi* stuff and I can&amp;#39;t really see which of them&lt;br&gt;
counts Carbons (which is what the CarbonConnectivityOrderZeroDescriptor did,&lt;br&gt;
as you said). Do you know which one actually replaces it?&lt;br&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;br&gt;ChiPathDescriptor. Within that, see order0()&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(OK, on looking at that, I see that it considers all non-H atoms, not just carbon atoms)&lt;br clear=&quot;all&quot;&gt;
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26813866</id>
	<title>Re: CarbonConnectivityOrderZeroDescriptor</title>
	<published>2009-12-16T08:18:59Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-16T08:18:59Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Stefan Kuhn-3</name>
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	<content type="html">Hm, I just looked at the Chi* stuff and I can't really see which of them 
&lt;br&gt;counts Carbons (which is what the CarbonConnectivityOrderZeroDescriptor did, 
&lt;br&gt;as you said). Do you know which one actually replaces it?
&lt;br&gt;Sorry for bothering you
&lt;br&gt;Stefan
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On Tuesday 15 December 2009 13:46:03 Rajarshi Guha wrote:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; IIRC it was dropped since one of the Chi descriptors did the same thing
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; On Dec 15, 2009, at 6:08 AM, Stefan Kuhn wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; There used to be a CarbonConnectivityOrderZeroDescriptor - does
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; anybody know
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; what this is now or if it has been removed or whatever?
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	<title>Re: Licensing issues</title>
	<published>2009-12-16T06:22:54Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-16T06:22:54Z</updated>
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		<name>Stefan Kuhn-3</name>
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	<content type="html">A separate file is fine as well - formatting might be tricky in the properties 
&lt;br&gt;file.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On Wednesday 16 December 2009 09:43:41 Egon Willighagen wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Stefan Kuhn &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26811820&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;stefan.kuhn@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; On Wednesday 16 December 2009 07:14:07 Egon Willighagen wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Stefan Kuhn &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26811820&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;stefan.kuhn@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;wrote:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Sounds good. We should also have freetext section, which will be
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; included in the license file, since many licenses require you to
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; include a particular statement or whatever, so we need to be flexible.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; Can I suggest a .comments file? Then we don't have to worry about
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; messing with the machine readable structure of the .meta file...
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Can't we include that machine readable? If possible, extra files should
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; be avoided.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Yes, but then we have to start worry much more about the file format
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; and take into account multiline content, likely with empty lines,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; etc... but not impossible:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.properties&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.properties&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; It restricts you in the exact 'free' text, and you'd have to end each
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; line with a '\', making copy pasting taking more effort ...
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; That's why I prefer a separate file...
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Egon
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26811540</id>
	<title>Re: CarbonConnectivityOrderZeroDescriptor</title>
	<published>2009-12-16T06:03:37Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-16T06:03:37Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Egon Willighagen-5</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Rajarshi Guha &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26811540&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;rajarshi.guha@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I didn't really check the original algorithm - all it does is is
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; basically count the number of carbons. I don't think there is an
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; algorithm for that :)
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ah, OK. The 'zero order' connectivity is just *no* connectivity? Did
&lt;br&gt;not realize that, and was too lazy to look up the full specs of the
&lt;br&gt;Chi descriptors...
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Egon
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26811312</id>
	<title>Re: CarbonConnectivityOrderZeroDescriptor</title>
	<published>2009-12-16T05:43:13Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-16T05:43:13Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Rajarshi Guha-4</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&lt;br&gt;On Dec 16, 2009, at 2:15 AM, Egon Willighagen wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Rajarshi Guha &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26811312&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;rajarshi.guha@...&lt;/a&gt; 
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; IIRC it was dropped since one of the Chi descriptors did the same &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; thing
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; So, it was replaced? Is it using the same algorithm too?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I didn't really check the original algorithm - all it does is is &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;basically count the number of carbons. I don't think there is an &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;algorithm for that :)
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26808619</id>
	<title>Re: Licensing issues</title>
	<published>2009-12-16T01:43:41Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-16T01:43:41Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Egon Willighagen-5</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Stefan Kuhn &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26808619&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;stefan.kuhn@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; On Wednesday 16 December 2009 07:14:07 Egon Willighagen wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Stefan Kuhn &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26808619&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;stefan.kuhn@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Sounds good. We should also have freetext section, which will be included
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; in the license file, since many licenses require you to include a
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; particular statement or whatever, so we need to be flexible.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Can I suggest a .comments file? Then we don't have to worry about
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; messing with the machine readable structure of the .meta file...
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Can't we include that machine readable? If possible, extra files should be
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; avoided.
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yes, but then we have to start worry much more about the file format
&lt;br&gt;and take into account multiline content, likely with empty lines,
&lt;br&gt;etc... but not impossible:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.properties&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.properties&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It restricts you in the exact 'free' text, and you'd have to end each
&lt;br&gt;line with a '\', making copy pasting taking more effort ...
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That's why I prefer a separate file...
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Egon
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26808546</id>
	<title>Re: Licensing issues</title>
	<published>2009-12-16T01:38:45Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-16T01:38:45Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Stefan Kuhn-3</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">On Wednesday 16 December 2009 07:14:07 Egon Willighagen wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Stefan Kuhn &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26808546&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;stefan.kuhn@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Sounds good. We should also have freetext section, which will be included
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; in the license file, since many licenses require you to include a
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; particular statement or whatever, so we need to be flexible.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Can I suggest a .comments file? Then we don't have to worry about
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; messing with the machine readable structure of the .meta file...
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Egon
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Can't we include that machine readable? If possible, extra files should be 
&lt;br&gt;avoided.
&lt;br&gt;Stefan
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26807151</id>
	<title>Re: CarbonConnectivityOrderZeroDescriptor</title>
	<published>2009-12-15T23:15:09Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-15T23:15:09Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Egon Willighagen-5</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Rajarshi Guha &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26807151&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;rajarshi.guha@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; IIRC it was dropped since one of the Chi descriptors did the same thing
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So, it was replaced? Is it using the same algorithm too?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Egon
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26807138</id>
	<title>Re: Licensing issues</title>
	<published>2009-12-15T23:14:07Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-15T23:14:07Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Egon Willighagen-5</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Stefan Kuhn &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26807138&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;stefan.kuhn@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Sounds good. We should also have freetext section, which will be included in
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; the license file, since many licenses require you to include a particular
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; statement or whatever, so we need to be flexible.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Can I suggest a .comments file? Then we don't have to worry about
&lt;br&gt;messing with the machine readable structure of the .meta file...
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Egon
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26795025</id>
	<title>Re: CarbonConnectivityOrderZeroDescriptor</title>
	<published>2009-12-15T05:46:03Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-15T05:46:03Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Rajarshi Guha-4</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">IIRC it was dropped since one of the Chi descriptors did the same thing
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On Dec 15, 2009, at 6:08 AM, Stefan Kuhn wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; There used to be a CarbonConnectivityOrderZeroDescriptor - does &amp;nbsp;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; anybody know
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; what this is now or if it has been removed or whatever?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Stefan
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26794775</id>
	<title>Re: Licensing issues</title>
	<published>2009-12-15T05:26:02Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-15T05:26:02Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Egon Willighagen-5</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Stefan Kuhn &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26794775&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;stefan.kuhn@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Could we also have a copyright notice section in the file? Many licences
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; require inclusion of some copyright notice and so it might be useful to keep
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; it separate.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ah, yes. Indeed, that should be included too.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Egon
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26794745</id>
	<title>Re: Licensing issues</title>
	<published>2009-12-15T05:24:22Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-15T05:24:22Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Stefan Kuhn-3</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Could we also have a copyright notice section in the file? Many licences 
&lt;br&gt;require inclusion of some copyright notice and so it might be useful to keep 
&lt;br&gt;it separate.
&lt;br&gt;Stefan
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On Tuesday 15 December 2009 12:03:20 Egon Willighagen wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Stefan,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 8:21 PM, Egon Willighagen
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26794745&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;egon.willighagen@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Stefan Kuhn &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26794745&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;stefan.kuhn@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;wrote:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; To overcome this I suggest we do a document in the distribution where
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; for each library we do whatever the license asks.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I was thinking to have a foo.jar.meta file for each foo.jar we have.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; The file content would like like, with additional sections if the jar
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; contains third party stuff, like:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; [jniinchi-0.5.jar]
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Library=JNI-InChI
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Version=0.5
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; License=GNU Lesser General Public License, unspecified version
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Download=&lt;a href=&quot;http://jni-inchi.sourceforge.net/license.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://jni-inchi.sourceforge.net/license.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; # SourceCode=
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; [jniinchi-0.5.jar/inchi.c] # file name or so
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Library=InChI C sofware
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Version=1.0
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Licence=GNU Lesser General Public License, unspecified version.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Download=&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.iupac.org/inchi/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.iupac.org/inchi/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; # SourceCode=
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; We can create the LICENSE file automatically from these .meta data files...
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Egon
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26795316</id>
	<title>Re: Licensing issues</title>
	<published>2009-12-15T04:13:15Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-15T04:13:15Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Stefan Kuhn-3</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Sounds good. We should also have freetext section, which will be included in 
&lt;br&gt;the license file, since many licenses require you to include a particular 
&lt;br&gt;statement or whatever, so we need to be flexible.
&lt;br&gt;Stefan
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On Tuesday 15 December 2009 12:03:20 Egon Willighagen wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Stefan,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 8:21 PM, Egon Willighagen
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26795316&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;egon.willighagen@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Stefan Kuhn &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26795316&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;stefan.kuhn@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; 
&lt;br&gt;wrote:
&lt;div class='shrinkable-quote'&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; To overcome this I suggest we do a document in the distribution where
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt;&amp;gt; for each library we do whatever the license asks.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I was thinking to have a foo.jar.meta file for each foo.jar we have.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; The file content would like like, with additional sections if the jar
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; contains third party stuff, like:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; [jniinchi-0.5.jar]
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Library=JNI-InChI
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Version=0.5
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; License=GNU Lesser General Public License, unspecified version
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Download=&lt;a href=&quot;http://jni-inchi.sourceforge.net/license.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://jni-inchi.sourceforge.net/license.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; # SourceCode=
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; [jniinchi-0.5.jar/inchi.c] # file name or so
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Library=InChI C sofware
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Version=1.0
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Licence=GNU Lesser General Public License, unspecified version.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Download=&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.iupac.org/inchi/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.iupac.org/inchi/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; # SourceCode=
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; We can create the LICENSE file automatically from these .meta data files...
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Egon
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- 
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26793791</id>
	<title>Re: Licensing issues</title>
	<published>2009-12-15T04:05:18Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-15T04:05:18Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Egon Willighagen-5</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Stefan Kuhn &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26793791&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;stefan.kuhn@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; We need to carefully double check what the license of a project now
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; says, and the version we actually use... they are not always in
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; sync... in that respect, we should include the library version numbers
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; (if we can dig them up, and recursively) in the metadata too...
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Yes, I tried to consider this, but when no version number is given it is
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; difficult.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Indeed. I tried to systematically add some useful info in the commit
&lt;br&gt;message, but not all have.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; This is especially tricky with the apache xml libs, which changed
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; apache project while being developed. I do my best to get accurate
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; information, but I cannot guarantee anything, obviously.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Indeed, which is why I asked about how you had done it so far...
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Egon
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- 
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26793770</id>
	<title>Re: Licensing issues</title>
	<published>2009-12-15T04:03:20Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-15T04:03:20Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Egon Willighagen-5</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Stefan,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 8:21 PM, Egon Willighagen
&lt;br&gt;&amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26793770&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;egon.willighagen@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Stefan Kuhn &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26793770&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;stefan.kuhn@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; To overcome this I suggest we do a document in the distribution where for each
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; library we do whatever the license asks.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I was thinking to have a foo.jar.meta file for each foo.jar we have.
&lt;br&gt;The file content would like like, with additional sections if the jar
&lt;br&gt;contains third party stuff, like:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;[jniinchi-0.5.jar]
&lt;br&gt;Library=JNI-InChI
&lt;br&gt;Version=0.5
&lt;br&gt;License=GNU Lesser General Public License, unspecified version
&lt;br&gt;Download=&lt;a href=&quot;http://jni-inchi.sourceforge.net/license.html&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://jni-inchi.sourceforge.net/license.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;# SourceCode=
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;[jniinchi-0.5.jar/inchi.c] # file name or so
&lt;br&gt;Library=InChI C sofware
&lt;br&gt;Version=1.0
&lt;br&gt;Licence=GNU Lesser General Public License, unspecified version.
&lt;br&gt;Download=&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.iupac.org/inchi/&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.iupac.org/inchi/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;# SourceCode=
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We can create the LICENSE file automatically from these .meta data files...
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Egon
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26793735</id>
	<title>Re: Licensing issues</title>
	<published>2009-12-15T04:00:51Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-15T04:00:51Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Stefan Kuhn-3</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&amp;gt; We need to carefully double check what the license of a project now
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; says, and the version we actually use... they are not always in
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; sync... in that respect, we should include the library version numbers
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; (if we can dig them up, and recursively) in the metadata too...
&lt;br&gt;Yes, I tried to consider this, but when no version number is given it is 
&lt;br&gt;difficult. This is especially tricky with the apache xml libs, which changed 
&lt;br&gt;apache project while being developed. I do my best to get accurate 
&lt;br&gt;information, but I cannot guarantee anything, obviously.
&lt;br&gt;Stefan
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Egon
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- 
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26793680</id>
	<title>Re: Licensing issues</title>
	<published>2009-12-15T03:56:10Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-15T03:56:10Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Egon Willighagen-5</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Stefan Kuhn &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26793680&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;stefan.kuhn@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; I have a half-finished patch to create module pages... license info
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; for the jars would be very welcome there.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; If I set up a machine readable system, will you follow it?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Of course, given it is possible to collaborate on this.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I'll set up machine readable format (will be very simple, likely just
&lt;br&gt;Java Properties file like) and the stuff to use it shortly. For now,
&lt;br&gt;please continue your efforts; I'm busy finishing course material for
&lt;br&gt;our PharmBio course due Jan 5th...
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; To reduce work duplication, how did you check licenses and copyrights?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I looked it up on the websites given in LICENSE file.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We need to carefully double check what the license of a project now
&lt;br&gt;says, and the version we actually use... they are not always in
&lt;br&gt;sync... in that respect, we should include the library version numbers
&lt;br&gt;(if we can dig them up, and recursively) in the metadata too...
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Egon
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26793549</id>
	<title>Re: Licensing issues</title>
	<published>2009-12-15T03:47:00Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-15T03:47:00Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Christoph Steinbeck-4</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">On 15/12/2009 10:00, Egon Willighagen wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; I have a half-finished patch to create module pages... license info
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; for the jars would be very welcome there.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; If I set up a machine readable system, will you follow it?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Of course we will.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cheers,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Chris
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26793521</id>
	<title>Re: Licensing issues</title>
	<published>2009-12-15T03:44:47Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-15T03:44:47Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Stefan Kuhn-3</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">&amp;gt; I have a half-finished patch to create module pages... license info
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; for the jars would be very welcome there.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; If I set up a machine readable system, will you follow it?
&lt;br&gt;Of course, given it is possible to collaborate on this.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; To reduce work duplication, how did you check licenses and copyrights?
&lt;br&gt;I looked it up on the websites given in LICENSE file.
&lt;br&gt;Stefan
&lt;br&gt;-- 
&lt;br&gt;Stefan Kuhn B. Sc. M. A.
&lt;br&gt;Software Engineer in the Chemoinformatics and Metabolism Team
&lt;br&gt;European Bioinformatics Institute (EBI)
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	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26793057</id>
	<title>CarbonConnectivityOrderZeroDescriptor</title>
	<published>2009-12-15T03:08:58Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-15T03:08:58Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Stefan Kuhn-3</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">There used to be a CarbonConnectivityOrderZeroDescriptor - does anybody know 
&lt;br&gt;what this is now or if it has been removed or whatever?
&lt;br&gt;Stefan
&lt;br&gt;-- 
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<entry>
	<id>tag:old.nabble.com,2006:post-26792696</id>
	<title>Fwd: [Cdk-devel] Coordination bonds</title>
	<published>2009-12-15T02:35:07Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-15T02:35:07Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Egon Willighagen-5</name>
	</author>
	<content type="html">Hi all,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Stefan asked last week about coordination bonds (see below)... these
&lt;br&gt;have been long missing in the CDK, though there is certainly room for
&lt;br&gt;them: the IBond extends IElectronContainer, which is flexible in the
&lt;br&gt;number of atoms and the number of electrons involved...
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There was discussion on LonePairs involved in dative bonds... but I
&lt;br&gt;like to ask the user community to define important use cases the
&lt;br&gt;support for coordination/dative bonds should support...
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Please let us know what you would like to see supported, so that we
&lt;br&gt;can work out a proposal with a wide scope.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanx,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Egon
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;---------- Forwarded message ----------
&lt;br&gt;From: Stefan Kuhn &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26792696&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;stefan.kuhn@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;Date: Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 5:02 PM
&lt;br&gt;Subject: [Cdk-devel] Coordination bonds
&lt;br&gt;To: &amp;quot;Developers forum for discussion about the Chemistry Development
&lt;br&gt;Kit (CDK)&amp;quot; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26792696&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;cdk-devel@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hi all,
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;do we have support for coordination bonds in CDK? If not, how could these be
&lt;br&gt;introduced? As a property on bonds? From my short wikipedia reading I get the
&lt;br&gt;impression it is very similar to &amp;quot;normal&amp;quot; bonds, so it might be appropriate
&lt;br&gt;to have them as such with a property. Any thoughts?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks,
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	<title>Re: Licensing issues</title>
	<published>2009-12-15T02:00:47Z</published>
	<updated>2009-12-15T02:00:47Z</updated>
	<author>
		<name>Egon Willighagen-5</name>
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	<content type="html">On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Stefan Kuhn &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26792313&amp;i=0&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;stefan.kuhn@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; On Monday 14 December 2009 18:10:08 Egon Willighagen wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 7:02 PM, Stefan Kuhn &amp;lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26792313&amp;i=1&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;stefan.kuhn@...&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Please find attached a file to replace the license file in cdk/jar. I
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; will add required sources, license texts etc., but I think the file
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; should go in asap, since the old one was fairly outdated.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; You did not opt for a machine readable way?
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; No.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have a half-finished patch to create module pages... license info
&lt;br&gt;for the jars would be very welcome there.
&lt;br&gt;If I set up a machine readable system, will you follow it?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; - vecmath being GPL (not LGPL)
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; We use a public domain version, and have the source code in SVN
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; (vecmath project).
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Hm, checking that out I cannot find any licensing information. The URL given
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; in the readme is not existing (if I correctly interpret the Japanese text I
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; get). Do you have any information about the status of that code?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Don't see the PD claim either, but this is what the source code says:
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;/*
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 2 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Copyright (C) 1997,1998,1999
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 3 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Kenji Hiranabe, Eiwa System Management, Inc.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 4
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 5 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;This program is free software.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 6 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Implemented by Kenji Hiranabe(&lt;a href=&quot;http://old.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=post&amp;post=26792313&amp;i=2&quot; target=&quot;_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;hiranabe@...&lt;/a&gt;),
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 7 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;conforming to the Java(TM) 3D API specification by Sun Microsystems.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 8
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 9 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;Permission to use, copy, modify, distribute and sell this software
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;10 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;and its documentation for any purpose is hereby granted without fee,
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;11 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;provided that the above copyright notice appear in all copies and
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;12 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;that both that copyright notice and this permission notice appear
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;13 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;in supporting documentation. Kenji Hiranabe and Eiwa System
&lt;br&gt;Management,Inc.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;14 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;makes no representations about the suitability of this software for any
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;15 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;purpose. &amp;nbsp;It is provided &amp;quot;AS IS&amp;quot; with NO WARRANTY.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;16 */
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; &amp;gt; Ok, I will continue with this, also for the develjar files.
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; Did you examine the content of the jars? At least the cmlxom.jar has
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt; additional different-licensed files in the jars...
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt;
&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; Not yet. Everybody is invited to join in with the effort.
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;To reduce work duplication, how did you check licenses and copyrights?
&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Egon
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