The mailing list uptime; ask GNOME to host?

[Martin Nordholts-2]

Hi everyone!

It is great to see the gimp-developer list up and running again, but
it has had two rather long downtimes recently and it is not unreasonable
to assume that these problems will continue.

What do people think about asking GNOME to host the list [1]? Personally
I would be fine with that.

 / Martin


[1] http://live.gnome.org/NewListRequest


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[yahvuu]

Martin Nordholts wrote:
> Hi everyone!
>
> It is great to see the gimp-developer list up and running again, but
> it has had two rather long downtimes recently and it is not unreasonable
> to assume that these problems will continue.
>
> What do people think about asking GNOME to host the list [1]? Personally
> I would be fine with that.

as long as the file extension is XCF, the project should use
berkeley's generosity, i think...

Seriously, a real reason to migrate to some other list/medium list would be better
support for the spurious UI discussions: feels somewhat anachronistic to discuss
graphical issues using an ASCII mailing list.


greetings,
yahvuu

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[Jernej Simončič]

On Tuesday, October 20, 2009, 18:22:39, Martin Nordholts wrote:

> What do people think about asking GNOME to host the list [1]? Personally
> I would be fine with that.

As long as it works better, I'm all for it.

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[Sven Neumann]

On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 18:22 +0200, Martin Nordholts wrote:
> Hi everyone!
>
> It is great to see the gimp-developer list up and running again, but
> it has had two rather long downtimes recently and it is not unreasonable
> to assume that these problems will continue.
>
> What do people think about asking GNOME to host the list [1]? Personally
> I would be fine with that.

I don't quite understand why we don't pull the problem at its roots and
look for a new admin for the GIMP server. With a new admin we can buy or
rent a server and put an end to all those problems. Money is not a
problem as we have more than enough money to spend on this. We need
someone with serious sysadmin experience who is willing to become
responsible for gimp.org.

By moving the lists to GNOME we don't solve our issues, we just make it
even harder to maintain them.


Sven


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[Martin Nordholts-2]

2009/10/20 Sven Neumann <sven@...>:
> On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 18:22 +0200, Martin Nordholts wrote:
>> What do people think about asking GNOME to host the list [1]? Personally
>> I would be fine with that.
>
> I don't quite understand why we don't pull the problem at its roots and
> look for a new admin for the GIMP server.

It is exactly that that is our root problem, we don't have such an admin. One
way to solve this is to move the list to a place that has sysadmins.

 / Martin
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[Michael Schumacher]

Martin Nordholts wrote:

> It is exactly that that is our root problem, we don't have such an admin. One
> way to solve this is to move the list to a place that has sysadmins.

A place like XCF at Berkeley?

Contrary to popular belief, the mailing list server is not located in
yosh's bedroom.

I've mailed Vadim Kogan for the past two issues (expired SSL certificate
and the recent outage), and he responded and fixed the problems quickly,
even over a weekend.


Regards,
Michael

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[Martin Nordholts-2]

On 10/22/2009 07:37 PM, Michael Schumacher wrote:

> Martin Nordholts wrote:
>
>> It is exactly that that is our root problem, we don't have such an admin. One
>> way to solve this is to move the list to a place that has sysadmins.
>
> A place like XCF at Berkeley?
>
> Contrary to popular belief, the mailing list server is not located in
> yosh's bedroom.
>
> I've mailed Vadim Kogan for the past two issues (expired SSL certificate
> and the recent outage), and he responded and fixed the problems quickly,
> even over a weekend.

That's great, thanks! I thought yosh was the only one with access
to the server. With a contact person at XCF the easiest is of course
to keep our lists there.

BR,
Martin


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