Thunar 0.9.3 locks desktop when mouse -> Create Document...

[Rob-34]

Hi

On Fedora 10, I have XFCE 4.4.3 with Thunar 0.9.3.
(It's not until Fedora 11 comes out, that it has XFCE 4.6).

When I pop up the menu with a Right-Mouse-Click and
let "Create Document ->" get the focus, then Thunar
starts consuming A LOT of cpu time, giving the impression
the desktop is frozen.

After a long time, the submenu will appear, which is the
full (long!) listing of my home directory.

Why does it create that listing in the "Create Document"
submenu? And why my mouse becomes totally
responseless while Thunar is busy learning about my
home directory....?

I think something is wrong here.

Regards,
Rob.


     
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[Yves-Alexis Perez-2]

On mar, 2009-04-21 at 08:30 -0700, Rob wrote:
>
> Why does it create that listing in the "Create Document"
> submenu? And why my mouse becomes totally
> responseless while Thunar is busy learning about my
> home directory....?

I think your “Template” folder is your home folder, so every file in
your homedir is treated as a template for a new file. If you have a very
full homedir it might be really bad.

I don't know exactly how to fix the problem but only creating a
Templates folder in your homedir might do the trick. You might want to
edit ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs and run xdg-user-dirs-gtk-update too.

Cheers,
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[Rob-34]

Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:

> On mar, 2009-04-21 at 08:30 -0700, Rob wrote:
>>
>> Why does it create that listing in the "Create Document"
>> submenu? And why my mouse becomes totally
>> responseless while Thunar is busy learning about my
>> home directory....?
>
> I think your “Template” folder is your home folder, so every file in
> your homedir is treated as a template for a new file. If you have a very
> full homedir it might be really bad.
>
> I don't know exactly how to fix the problem but only creating a
> Templates folder in your homedir might do the trick. You might want to
> edit ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs and run xdg-user-dirs-gtk-update too.

I've tried this, but to no avail.
Moreover, this is definitely a bug in Thunar's behaviour!!
I hope Thunar has a different behaviour with Xfce 4.6 !?!

It's even worse than what I described before: if I do not kill
Thunar soon enough after its lock up, my whole system grinds
to a halt; keyboard/mouse stop, screen is frozen, no remote
login possible....I can only power off and on again.

All this happens using Thunar as a regular user!!!

I've checked output to /var/log/messages and /var/log/Xorg.0.log
while Thunar screws my system, but nothing appears there.

Thunar is really doing something awefully bad here.

Rob.


     
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[Rob-34]

I found a solution to make it work again:

I created the folder $HOME/Templates (I deleted this empty folder some time ago
when cleaning up my home directory, not expecting this could cause havoc...!?!?!).
In the $HOME/.config/user-dirs.dirs
file I modified the Templates setting from
$HOME to $HOME/Templates; and I ran xdg-user-dirs-gtk-update.
I logged out of Xfce and logged in again. Then everything is OK again.

However, the problem in Thunar is still there:
If I accidentally remove the $HOME/Templates directory, and the Templates
pointer instead points to another (huge?) directory, e.g. $HOME, then Thunar
is capable of completely freeze my entire system. How is that possible?
This is the worst thing a file manager can do ;).

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[Brian J. Tarricone]

Rob wrote:

> If I accidentally remove the $HOME/Templates directory, and the Templates
> pointer instead points to another (huge?) directory, e.g. $HOME, then Thunar
> is capable of completely freeze my entire system. How is that possible?
> This is the worst thing a file manager can do ;).

You lack imagination... I'd think "deleting all my files without my
asking it to" would be worse. ^_~

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[Rob-34]

Brian J. Tarricone wrote:
> Rob wrote:
>
>> If I accidentally remove the $HOME/Templates directory, and the Templates
>> pointer instead points to another (huge?) directory, e.g. $HOME, then Thunar
>> is capable of completely freeze my entire system. How is that possible?
>> This is the worst thing a file manager can do ;).
>
> You lack imagination... I'd think "deleting all my files without my
> asking it to" would be worse. ^_~

Right! This puts the problem is a different perspective ;).

My linux PC (and server) usually runs non-stop 24 hrs/day for weeks.
Having to power off and on my linux system once or twice a day,
because I accidentally used that particular Right-Mouse-Click menu
of Thunar, is pretty bad too....

Rob.


     
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[Yves-Alexis Perez-2]

On mar, 2009-04-21 at 19:30 -0700, Rob wrote:
> My linux PC (and server) usually runs non-stop 24 hrs/day for weeks.
> Having to power off and on my linux system once or twice a day,
> because I accidentally used that particular Right-Mouse-Click menu
> of Thunar, is pretty bad too....

Then don't do it?
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[Rob-34]

Yves-Alexis wrote:
> On mar, 2009-04-21 at 19:30 -0700, Rob wrote:
>> My linux PC (and server) usually runs non-stop 24 hrs/day for weeks.
>> Having to power off and on my linux system once or twice a day,
>> because I accidentally used that particular Right-Mouse-Click menu
>> of Thunar, is pretty bad too....
>
> Then don't do it?

Yes, I shouldn't use this function of Thunar, neither
should any other user on this linux system....to prevent
the OS to come to a grinding halt.....!?!?!

But this is not the way Thunar should behave and since this
is a "-dev" list, I reported my experience.... I'd thought
I found a serious bug here!

Actually, I wonder how this is possible in the first place.
How can Thunar as a regular user application be able to cripple
the whole OS? Even if a user application would want to, the
OS should prevent something like to happen.
Nevertheless, it happens.....

Cheers,
R.


     
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[Bob McConnell-2]

Rob wrote:
>
> I found a solution to make it work again:
>
> I created the folder $HOME/Templates (I deleted this empty folder some time ago
> when cleaning up my home directory, not expecting this could cause havoc...!?!?!).
> In the $HOME/.config/user-dirs.dirs
> file I modified the Templates setting from
> $HOME to $HOME/Templates; and I ran xdg-user-dirs-gtk-update.
> I logged out of Xfce and logged in again. Then everything is OK again.

Where does the file 'user-dirs.dirs' come from? I don't see one on my
system. That may be contributing to the problems I have been having. I
found the quickest way to get Xfce working again was to delete the
.config and .cache directories and start over. But that file doesn't
appear in any of the backups I saved either.

Bob McConnell
N2SPP

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