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Ticket #588: Enforce at least 5 character minimum for password

by Tim Almdal :: Rate this Message:

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Hi Andy, do you mind if I take and complete ticket #588. I found this regex, that forces a a input password to be at least 5 letter which must contain at least one Upper case letter, one lower case letter and one digit.

#(?=[-_a-zA-Z0-9]*?[A-Z])(?=[-_a-zA-Z0-9]*?[a-z])(?=[-_a-zA-Z0-9]*?[0-9])[-_a-zA-Z0-9]{5,}#


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Re: Ticket #588: Enforce at least 5 character minimum for password

by Bharat Mediratta :: Rate this Message:

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Tim Almdal wrote:
> Hi Andy, do you mind if I take and complete ticket #588. I found this
> regex, that forces a a input password to be at least 5 letter which must
> contain at least one Upper case letter, one lower case letter and one digit.
>
> #(?=[-_a-zA-Z0-9]*?[A-Z])(?=[-_a-zA-Z0-9]*?[a-z])(?=[-_a-zA-Z0-9]*?[0-9])[-_a-zA-Z0-9]{5,}#

Ye gods.  Do we really have to do this?  Websites that force me to use
"strong" passwords drive me batty.

-Bharat

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Re: Ticket #588: Enforce at least 5 character minimum for password

by Jake Conner :: Rate this Message:

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I agree with Bharat - these rules are annoying.  Minimum length maybe,  
but the content requirements are *really* annoying.

Jake

On Oct 26, 2009, at 2:55 PM, Bharat Mediratta wrote:

> Tim Almdal wrote:
>> Hi Andy, do you mind if I take and complete ticket #588. I found this
>> regex, that forces a a input password to be at least 5 letter which  
>> must
>> contain at least one Upper case letter, one lower case letter and  
>> one digit.
>>
>> #(?=[-_a-zA-Z0-9]*?[A-Z])(?=[-_a-zA-Z0-9]*?[a-z])(?=[-_a-zA-Z0-9]*?
>> [0-9])[-_a-zA-Z0-9]{5,}#
>
> Ye gods.  Do we really have to do this?  Websites that force me to use
> "strong" passwords drive me batty.
>
> -Bharat
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Re: Ticket #588: Enforce at least 5 character minimum for password

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Don't matter to me. You suggested minimum 5 chars, Andy's stretch goal was require some variety.  If we are not going to do it, lets close it and get it off the list.

Tim

----- Original Message -----
From: Bharat Mediratta <bharat@...>
Date: Monday, October 26, 2009 12:56 pm
Subject: Re: [Gallery-devel] Ticket #588: Enforce at least 5 character minimum for password
To: Tim Almdal <tnalmdal@...>
Cc: "Staudacher, Andy" <andy.st@...>, "gallery-devel@..." <gallery-devel@...>

> Tim Almdal wrote:
> > Hi Andy, do you mind if I take and complete ticket #588. I
> found this
> > regex, that forces a a input password to be at least 5 letter
> which must
> > contain at least one Upper case letter, one lower case letter
> and one digit.
> >
> > #(?=[-_a-zA-Z0-9]*?[A-Z])(?=[-_a-zA-Z0-9]*?[a-z])(?=[-_a-zA-Z0-
> 9]*?[0-9])[-_a-zA-Z0-9]{5,}#
>
> Ye gods.  Do we really have to do this?  Websites that
> force me to use
> "strong" passwords drive me batty.
>
> -Bharat
>

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Re: Ticket #588: Enforce at least 5 character minimum for password

by Donald Webster :: Rate this Message:

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Do we already let users know if their password is weak, reasonable or
strong?  I would not appose an *option* to allow enforcement of strong
passwords for the admin, but forcing strong passwords would probably
not appeal to most users.

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On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Tim Almdal <tnalmdal@...> wrote:

> Don't matter to me. You suggested minimum 5 chars, Andy's stretch goal was
> require some variety.  If we are not going to do it, lets close it and get
> it off the list.
> Tim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bharat Mediratta <bharat@...>
> Date: Monday, October 26, 2009 12:56 pm
> Subject: Re: [Gallery-devel] Ticket #588: Enforce at least 5 character
> minimum for password
> To: Tim Almdal <tnalmdal@...>
> Cc: "Staudacher, Andy" <andy.st@...>,
> "gallery-devel@..." <gallery-devel@...>
>
>> Tim Almdal wrote:
>> > Hi Andy, do you mind if I take and complete ticket #588. I
>> found this
>> > regex, that forces a a input password to be at least 5 letter
>> which must
>> > contain at least one Upper case letter, one lower case letter
>> and one digit.
>> >
>> > #(?=[-_a-zA-Z0-9]*?[A-Z])(?=[-_a-zA-Z0-9]*?[a-z])(?=[-_a-zA-Z0-
>> 9]*?[0-9])[-_a-zA-Z0-9]{5,}#
>>
>> Ye gods.  Do we really have to do this?  Websites that
>> force me to use
>> "strong" passwords drive me batty.
>>
>> -Bharat
>>
>
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Re: Ticket #588: Enforce at least 5 character minimum for password

by Chad Kieffer-3 :: Rate this Message:

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On Oct 26, 2009, at 1:55 PM, Bharat Mediratta <bharat@...>  
wrote:

> Tim Almdal wrote:
>> Hi Andy, do you mind if I take and complete ticket #588. I found this
>> regex, that forces a a input password to be at least 5 letter which  
>> must
>> contain at least one Upper case letter, one lower case letter and  
>> one digit.
>>
>> #(?=[-_a-zA-Z0-9]*?[A-Z])(?=[-_a-zA-Z0-9]*?[a-z])(?=[-_a-zA-Z0-9]*?
>> [0-9])[-_a-zA-Z0-9]{5,}#
>
> Ye gods.  Do we really have to do this?  Websites that force me to use
> "strong" passwords drive me batty.
>
> -Bharat

I think we agreed on just enforcing a minimum length, didn't we?

- Chad

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Re: Ticket #588: Enforce at least 5 character minimum for password

by Andy Staudacher-3 :: Rate this Message:

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+1 for enforcing a minimum length of 5 chars only.

(
As for password strength: If we ever do that, it should just be a recommendation, and not a requirement. I like the sign-up forms where there's an indicator next to the first password field to show the estimated strength of the password, and an indicator right next to the 2nd password field showing whether it matches the first one or not. All in JavaScript, without server round trips.
)

 - Andy

On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Chad Kieffer <chad@...> wrote:
On Oct 26, 2009, at 1:55 PM, Bharat Mediratta <bharat@...> wrote:

Tim Almdal wrote:
Hi Andy, do you mind if I take and complete ticket #588. I found this
regex, that forces a a input password to be at least 5 letter which must
contain at least one Upper case letter, one lower case letter and one digit.

#(?=[-_a-zA-Z0-9]*?[A-Z])(?=[-_a-zA-Z0-9]*?[a-z])(?=[-_a-zA-Z0-9]*?[0-9])[-_a-zA-Z0-9]{5,}#

Ye gods.  Do we really have to do this?  Websites that force me to use
"strong" passwords drive me batty.

-Bharat

I think we agreed on just enforcing a minimum length, didn't we?

- Chad



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Re: Ticket #588: Enforce at least 5 character minimum for password

by Tim Almdal :: Rate this Message:

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i was planning on adding a estimated strength indicator (jquery implementation) but, having it match is as good thing as well

So min length is all i'll implement :-)

----- Original Message -----
From: Andy Staudacher <andy.st@...>
Date: Monday, October 26, 2009 2:00 pm
Subject: Re: [Gallery-devel] Ticket #588: Enforce at least 5 character minimum for password
To: Chad Kieffer <chad@...>
Cc: Bharat Mediratta <bharat@...>, Tim Almdal <tnalmdal@...>, "gallery-devel@..." <gallery-devel@...>

> +1 for enforcing a minimum length of 5 chars only.
> (
> As for password strength: If we ever do that, it should just be a
> recommendation, and not a requirement. I like the sign-up forms where
> there's an indicator next to the first password field to show
> the estimated
> strength of the password, and an indicator right next to the 2nd
> passwordfield showing whether it matches the first one or not.
> All in JavaScript,
> without server round trips.
> )
>
>  - Andy
>
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Chad Kieffer
> <chad@...> wrote:
>
> > On Oct 26, 2009, at 1:55 PM, Bharat Mediratta
> <bharat@...> wrote:
> >
> >  Tim Almdal wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Andy, do you mind if I take and complete ticket #588. I
> found this
> >>> regex, that forces a a input password to be at least 5
> letter which must
> >>> contain at least one Upper case letter, one lower case
> letter and one
> >>> digit.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> #(?=[-_a-zA-Z0-9]*?[A-Z])(?=[-_a-zA-Z0-9]*?[a-z])(?=[-_a-zA-
> Z0-9]*?[0-9])[-_a-zA-Z0-9]{5,}#
> >>>
> >>
> >> Ye gods.  Do we really have to do this?  Websites
> that force me to use
> >> "strong" passwords drive me batty.
> >>
> >> -Bharat
> >>
> >
> > I think we agreed on just enforcing a minimum length, didn't we?
> >
> > - Chad
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Ticket #588: Enforce at least 5 characterminimum for password

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Personally I think even a minimum length is annoying. There are times when
you may (legitimately) not want any password at all.

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To: "Bharat Mediratta" <bharat@...>
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Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Gallery-devel] Ticket #588: Enforce at least 5
characterminimum for password


>I agree with Bharat - these rules are annoying.  Minimum length maybe,
> but the content requirements are *really* annoying.
>
> Jake
>
> On Oct 26, 2009, at 2:55 PM, Bharat Mediratta wrote:
>
>> Tim Almdal wrote:
>>> Hi Andy, do you mind if I take and complete ticket #588. I found this
>>> regex, that forces a a input password to be at least 5 letter which
>>> must
>>> contain at least one Upper case letter, one lower case letter and
>>> one digit.
>>>
>>> #(?=[-_a-zA-Z0-9]*?[A-Z])(?=[-_a-zA-Z0-9]*?[a-z])(?=[-_a-zA-Z0-9]*?
>>> [0-9])[-_a-zA-Z0-9]{5,}#
>>
>> Ye gods.  Do we really have to do this?  Websites that force me to use
>> "strong" passwords drive me batty.
>>
>> -Bharat
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Re: Ticket #588: Enforce at least 5 characterminimum for password

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I thought we only decided to do this for the admin account when initially installing G3.  Though that may be what we're already talking about or maybe that's how I recall it...

Kevin

On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Alec Myers <alec@...> wrote:
Personally I think even a minimum length is annoying. There are times when
you may (legitimately) not want any password at all.

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To: "Bharat Mediratta" <bharat@...>
Cc: <gallery-devel@...>
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Gallery-devel] Ticket #588: Enforce at least 5
characterminimum for password


>I agree with Bharat - these rules are annoying.  Minimum length maybe,
> but the content requirements are *really* annoying.
>
> Jake
>
> On Oct 26, 2009, at 2:55 PM, Bharat Mediratta wrote:
>
>> Tim Almdal wrote:
>>> Hi Andy, do you mind if I take and complete ticket #588. I found this
>>> regex, that forces a a input password to be at least 5 letter which
>>> must
>>> contain at least one Upper case letter, one lower case letter and
>>> one digit.
>>>
>>> #(?=[-_a-zA-Z0-9]*?[A-Z])(?=[-_a-zA-Z0-9]*?[a-z])(?=[-_a-zA-Z0-9]*?
>>> [0-9])[-_a-zA-Z0-9]{5,}#
>>
>> Ye gods.  Do we really have to do this?  Websites that force me to use
>> "strong" passwords drive me batty.
>>
>> -Bharat
>>
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Re: Ticket #588: Enforce at least 5 characterminimum for password

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On Mon October 26 2009 17:12:59 Alec Myers wrote:
> Personally I think even a minimum length is annoying. There are times when
> you may (legitimately) not want any password at all.

+1 for no rule enforcement at all - password strength is the user's business.

I do think strength-o-meter display is a mildly good idea but not worth a huge
effort.


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Re: Ticket #588: Enforce at least 5 characterminimum for password

by Chad Kieffer-3 :: Rate this Message:

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Password rules rules would be a nice contributed module :)

On Oct 26, 2009, at 3:18 PM, Kevin Nehls wrote:

I thought we only decided to do this for the admin account when initially installing G3.  Though that may be what we're already talking about or maybe that's how I recall it...

Kevin

On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Alec Myers <alec@...> wrote:
Personally I think even a minimum length is annoying. There are times when
you may (legitimately) not want any password at all.

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To: "Bharat Mediratta" <bharat@...>
Cc: <gallery-devel@...>
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 8:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Gallery-devel] Ticket #588: Enforce at least 5
characterminimum for password


>I agree with Bharat - these rules are annoying.  Minimum length maybe,
> but the content requirements are *really* annoying.
>
> Jake
>
> On Oct 26, 2009, at 2:55 PM, Bharat Mediratta wrote:
>
>> Tim Almdal wrote:
>>> Hi Andy, do you mind if I take and complete ticket #588. I found this
>>> regex, that forces a a input password to be at least 5 letter which
>>> must
>>> contain at least one Upper case letter, one lower case letter and
>>> one digit.
>>>
>>> #(?=[-_a-zA-Z0-9]*?[A-Z])(?=[-_a-zA-Z0-9]*?[a-z])(?=[-_a-zA-Z0-9]*?
>>> [0-9])[-_a-zA-Z0-9]{5,}#
>>
>> Ye gods.  Do we really have to do this?  Websites that force me to use
>> "strong" passwords drive me batty.
>>
>> -Bharat
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