TikiFest Workspaces (and Social Networking) in Barcelona :: mission accomplished! TikiFest Orlando & London next

[Marc Laporte-3]

Hi everyone!

TikiFest is closing up. In 10 minutes, we'll be heading off to the
beach (!) for a TikiFest closing meeting.

Many people are travelling early tomorrow morning and it's going to be
a bit chaotic. Expect to get some more news/follow-ups over the next
few weeks.

About what happened?

1- Some of the stuff is here:
http://tikiwiki.org/Tikifest+Workspaces+and+Social+Networking#Tasks_already_DONE_during_the_tikifest
2- A lot in SVN (both in trunk and experimental branches)
3- We recorded some things, but sadly streaming was not feasible
because of limited upload bandwidth here. I don't know if/when/who
will do editing and sharing.

About the general Workspaces : mission accomplished. We overall
reached our goals. We got further than planned on back-end things but
less than planned on front-end. We are going to need a lot of
help/patience/attention to refine/finalize/debug this vast undertaking
from now to 4.0.

4.0 release will presumably be around this date:
http://tikiwiki.org/TikiFestOrlando

More precise 4.0 planning needs to be discussed.
http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Lessons+from+3.0+release
I welcome proposals. for 4.0

There will likely be a last minute TikiFest in London about August
15-16-17-18 (2-4 days during this period)
http://tikiwiki.org/TikiFestLondonSummer2009

Thanks everyone!

M ;-)


On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 11:51 PM, Marc Laporte<marc@...> wrote:

> Hi!
>
> Here is a report of the TikiFest.
>
> As a reminder, here are the "Issues to resolve"
>
> 1- Workspace users only want to see what is relevant to their workspace
> 2- Some contexts require privacy and to hide the work of a workgroup
> 3- Administrators want to delegate management of workspaces
> 4- Workspaces need to have a life of their own
> 5- Workspace leaders may need to customize the configurations locally
>
> Full descriptions here:
> http://dev.tikiwiki.org/workspace+Roadmap
>
>
> The back-end is functional. Some more work needs to be done on group
> transitions (perms on groups are already done)
>
> To tyr it, you can checkout trunk and apply this profile:
> http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/Jailroot_Demonstration
>
> If you don't use SVN, you can download 4.0 here (daily snapshot):
> http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Download#Pre_release_packages_zip_files_
>
>
> Coming up:
> 1- It has not been deployed to all features yet. Normal behavior is:
> if perspectives are "off", it should be the same behavior as before
> (Tiki 3.0). On the short term, we will focus on making the workspaces
> work well on the following features:
>
> - Wiki
> - Blogs
> - File Galleries
> - Forums
> - Trackers
>
> Then, over time, more & more features & modules will be made
> "workspace/perspective" aware. This is a huge job to deploy this
> everywhere. The more people help, the faster we'll get there!  Here is
> how you can help:
> http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Deployment+of+Category+Jail
>
> Please note that for some of the less-maintained features (ex.: HTML
> pages, Quizzes, etc.) it may take a long time before they are made
> "workspace/perspective" aware (if ever!). That may mean that category
> permissions are not deployed to them or the lists are not filtered
> properly (http://dev.tikiwiki.org/WYSIWTSN and
> http://dev.tikiwiki.org/WYSIWYCA issues). This being said, if you
> don't use "workspace/perspective", it will be the same behavior as 3.0
>
> With the resources we have available, I prefer to have workspaces as
> complete as possible in 4.0 for a limited number of features, than to
> have partial workspaces (ex.: missing organic groups), but that works
> for all features. It's a debatable choice of course. However, the
> sooner we get the features in, the sooner they will mature. And I
> think cross-Tiki features like Organic / Emergent groups, Group
> transitions, Category security, etc. provide more value.
>
>
> 2- For advanced/complex profiles we need the flexibility of wiki pages
> / profiles / data channels. Here are 10 examples that we can do over
> the next few months (profiles can be made after 4.0 is released).
> http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/Workspaces
>
> I am very impressed with the flexibility provided by Louis-Philippe's
> design. And also, even people that don't use/need workspaces will
> benefit from general improvements (ex.: group perms)
>
> On the short term, these 2 will be our focus:
> http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/Project_Management
> http://profiles.tikiwiki.org/Classroom
> Régis & Xavi are leading this part.
>
> 3- Simpler interface to create simple workspaces. The setup above
> (profiles / data channels) is when you need massive power (like
> creating hundreds of classrooms or projects via data channels). Also
> on radar is to have a simplified interface (Aldo & Ben showed us a
> demo!). This will re-use the same libs but provide a way to create a
> workspace (which is in fact a category), associate groups easily and
> add items.
>
> 4- Better UI for all management (groups, perspectives, etc)
> luci & Jonny are preparing some nice jQuery stuff for us!
>
> 5- Lots of bug fixes
> Test, test, test, fix, fix, fix!
>
> Some more updates:
> Chealer is getting back into the code and hunting bugs
> Sept_7 has just joined us, so we'll have more brainpower to progress!
> Vladka has been working on some videos
> Rodrigo has been steadily working on the MediaWiki importer. If you
> have any MW data dumps to convert, please get in touch with him now.
> He is in testing phase!
> Sylvie has started deploying to some features.  I expect some tricky
> but essential things ahead for trackers in workspaces.
>
> Please note that some things (ex.: "Workspace leaders may need to
> customize the configurations locally") will only be possible to manage
> via profiles/data channels in 4.0
> To be able to provide per workspace a GUI to override preference, we
> need something like:
> http://dev.tikiwiki.org/Dynamic+Preferences
> And this is probably too much work for 4.0 (unless many volunteers
> magically popup!)
>
>
> So in a nutshell:
>
> 4.0: A robust/flexible backend for building complex workspaces with
> the most important features
> 5.0: Deploying to more & more features and making the UI easier (and
> less dependent on profiles).
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
> --
> Marc Laporte
>
> http://MarcLaporte.com
> http://TikiWiki.org/MarcLaporte
> http://AvanTech.net
> http://OurWiki.net
>

--
Marc Laporte

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