Tine, the vote and hopefully an agreement

[mipmip]

Hi Lars and Connie,

I'm writing this mail on my personal account. I'm worried but also  
hopefull and maybe a little happy, because I feel we are in the  
construction fase of this endless discussion. I hope you have read  
between the lines of the admin statements that Ralf, Miles and I  
really tried everything to keep you both inside the project. We all  
have experience with escalations of these kind of discussions, and  
that is not serving anything. In my opinion no one really wants to do  
bad things to the project but there have been made some mistakes and  
clearly there is a lot of misunderstanding.

Your question about the possibilty of restricting svn access shows to  
me that you are really looking just as hard as we do for a solution  
that we all can live with. We also suggested this option some days ago  
in an admin phone meeting. I hope this way we can still postpone the  
vote.

I want to ask you one thing to also respect. It is really important  
for us that you only talk about Tine in the dev-list and not in all  
the other egw-lists untill we have a vote later in 2008.  I can  
completely explain why, but I just want to ask you to respect this.

Please lets continue coming together in this argument.

Regards,
Pim


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[Lars Kneschke-2]

"Pim Snel" schrieb:
Hello Pim!

Nice to see, that there is a real chance to stop this vote thing.

> I want to ask you one thing to also respect. It is really important  
> for us that you only talk about Tine in the dev-list and not in all  
> the other egw-lists untill we have a vote later in 2008.  I can  
> completely explain why, but I just want to ask you to respect this.

I will talk with the other people involved and post a statement later this
day. We need to do some work first.

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[Cornelius Weiss-4]

Hi Pim,


> Your question about the possibilty of restricting svn access shows to  
> me that you are really looking just as hard as we do for a solution  
> that we all can live with. We also suggested this option some days ago  
> in an admin phone meeting. I hope this way we can still postpone the  
> vote.
>  
It would be ok with us, just to have commit rights for the others and
not having them as project members in this early stage. Once the vote in
2008 is over, we can go the normal 'howto become a member plan' with the
new developers.
> I want to ask you one thing to also respect. It is really important  
> for us that you only talk about Tine in the dev-list and not in all  
> the other egw-lists untill we have a vote later in 2008.  I can  
> completely explain why, but I just want to ask you to respect this.
>  
As we are really willing to stay in the project, we can respect this
rule and will not talk about the Tine effort on the users lists like
stated above, if you admins set an end to this bizzar voting situation.
We just feel, that there should be a final statement on the users list
to explain where to find definite infos about Tine, as (espechally on
the german list) there is a lot of flaming with lots of wrong
informations about us.

cu
Conny

> Please lets continue coming together in this argument.
>
> Regards,
> Pim
>
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