To boost maintainer

[Eray Ozkural-3]

No, you  have not done adequate testing obviously.

I know what I'm doing and I tested 1.39 and it DOES NOT WORK with
cygwin gcc-4, you have to compile gcc yourself if you want it to work.

Stop giving wrong information to people, you are wasting others' time.
I see that you've said exactly the same thing to somebody else who
couldn't get it to work.

What I am saying is that giving the --enable-auto-import flag manually
to the linker DOES NOT SOLVE anything. It only makes a freezing
program crash. Doh'.

I've explained the build procedure that I used in detail, only to
/dev/null it seems. Try to read my mail carefully. All the information
you need to replicate the bug is there. If you have a working build
procedure to run program_options, supply it, and no --Wl,... per your
suggestion solves exactly nothing, to repeat myself, in case this bit
of simple information is not getting through. I'd already tried it on
both cygwin 1.5 and cygwin 1.7, multiple times, to no avail.

And more obviously, you have not taken the time to run the TEST SUITES
of program_options and regexp libraries, i.e. libraries that do
require linking. Do you know how to run the test suites of boost, I
wonder? If not, I suggest you to give it a shot, you might be
surprised! Go into the test suite and example directories and invoke
bjam by providing its path, it should be that simple. It might not
crash with every boost library so you have to try those libs...

Also, why is it so difficult to accept that there may be something
wrong with gcc-4 in cygwin? Somebody wrote a patch that has only
limited applicability, and guess what it does have limited
applicability.

xemacs is also broken I bet it's the same dynamic linking error.

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[Karl M]

> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:50:28 +0300
> Subject: To boost maintainer
> From: Eray Ozkural
>
> No, you have not done adequate testing obviously.
>
> I know what I'm doing and I tested 1.39 and it DOES NOT WORK with
> cygwin gcc-4, you have to compile gcc yourself if you want it to work.
>
> Stop giving wrong information to people, you are wasting others' time.
> I see that you've said exactly the same thing to somebody else who
> couldn't get it to work.
>
> What I am saying is that giving the --enable-auto-import flag manually
> to the linker DOES NOT SOLVE anything. It only makes a freezing
> program crash. Doh'.
>
> I've explained the build procedure that I used in detail, only to
> /dev/null it seems. Try to read my mail carefully. All the information
> you need to replicate the bug is there. If you have a working build
> procedure to run program_options, supply it, and no --Wl,... per your
> suggestion solves exactly nothing, to repeat myself, in case this bit
> of simple information is not getting through. I'd already tried it on
> both cygwin 1.5 and cygwin 1.7, multiple times, to no avail.
>
> And more obviously, you have not taken the time to run the TEST SUITES
> of program_options and regexp libraries, i.e. libraries that do
> require linking. Do you know how to run the test suites of boost, I
> wonder? If not, I suggest you to give it a shot, you might be
> surprised! Go into the test suite and example directories and invoke
> bjam by providing its path, it should be that simple. It might not
> crash with every boost library so you have to try those libs...
>
> Also, why is it so difficult to accept that there may be something
> wrong with gcc-4 in cygwin? Somebody wrote a patch that has only
> limited applicability, and guess what it does have limited
> applicability.
>
> xemacs is also broken I bet it's the same dynamic linking error.
>
> PS: CC to me I am not subscribed to this list
>

Hi...

You seem like a friendly, helpful and cooperative person; perhaps
you should consider volunteering to maintain the Boost package
for Cygwin.

...Karl

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[Larry Hall (Cygwin)]

Karl M wrote:
>> Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 22:50:28 +0300
>> Subject: To boost maintainer
>> From: Eray Ozkural
>>
>> No, you have not done adequate testing obviously.

<snip>

> Hi...
>
> You seem like a friendly, helpful and cooperative person; perhaps
> you should consider volunteering to maintain the Boost package
> for Cygwin.

Forget about Boost.  I think Eray should take over gcc!  That Dave Korn
is such an ornery and fly-by-night fella.  It would be nice to put a cheery
face on Cygwin's gcc maintainership, particularly with the great dedication
to Cygwin Eray has shown so far.  It would be a nice change from Dave.


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A: Yes.
 > Q: Are you sure?
 >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation.
 >>> Q: Why is top posting annoying in email?

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[Andrew Schulman-3]

> No, you  have not done adequate testing obviously.
>
> I know what I'm doing and I tested 1.39 and it DOES NOT WORK with
> cygwin gcc-4, you have to compile gcc yourself if you want it to work.
>
> Stop giving wrong information to people, you are wasting others' time.
> I see that you've said exactly the same thing to somebody else who
> couldn't get it to work.

Dude.  Sorry things aren't working out as you'd like, but a nasty tone like
that just closed off any possibility of anyone here helping you.  I think
your only two options now are to apologize or leave.

> PS: CC to me I am not subscribed to this list

Right!  What else?


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[Christopher Faylor-8]

On Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 10:50:28PM +0300, Eray Ozkural wrote:
>No, you  have not done adequate testing obviously.

And you have not adequately understood how to use email.  Starting a new
accusatory thread, expecting people to remember you and your important
assertions, without any references to past discussions makes you seem
rather clueless.

>Also, why is it so difficult to accept that there may be something
>wrong with gcc-4 in cygwin? Somebody wrote a patch that has only
>limited applicability, and guess what it does have limited
>applicability.

Because, given the hostility and arrogance of your email, it is very
easy to dismiss your opinions.

>PS: CC to me I am not subscribed to this list

And, then there's this, too.

You desperately need to read:

http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

cgf

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[Reini Urban]

2009/7/1 Eray Ozkural <examachine@...>:
> xemacs is also broken I bet it's the same dynamic linking error.

I recompile the testing xemacs package (xemacs-21.5-b28) frequently
with gcc-4 cygwin-1.7 and it works fine.
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[Tim Prince-3]

Reini Urban wrote:
> 2009/7/1 Eray Ozkural <examachine@...>:
>  
>> xemacs is also broken I bet it's the same dynamic linking error.
>>    
>
> I recompile the testing xemacs package (xemacs-21.5-b28) frequently
> with gcc-4 cygwin-1.7 and it works fine.
>  
And I'm satisfied with how gfortran works if I remove the offending
dynamic libraries.

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[Václav Haisman]

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Eray Ozkural wrote, On 1.7.2009 21:50:
>[diatribe removed]
In your previous Boost thread, subject "More info on boost and gcc-4", you
have missed one fine point. You have to build the whole Boost with
- --enable-auto-import, not just your own executables. IIRC adding
<linkflags>-Wl,--enable-auto-import was enough. It does work for me, at least
for Boost.Filesystem library.

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