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To switch or not to switch, that is the question...
by Brian Lunergan-3
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Hi ho folks: Currently running Ubuntu 8.04 LTS. I'm no techie so the reports of upgrading problems with the latest edition don't do a thing for convincing me to move in that direction. Not yet at any rate. I do have a disk I made up of the Kubuntu 8.04 edition, but apparently it's not LTS and so support apparently dies out in September. Lateral shift to it still not out of the question, but I'm curious. Is it as stable a player as the 8.04 edition of Ubuntu? Would it recognize all the same hardware on my machine that Ubuntu does? Or should I just bide my time and wait for the next LTS version to wander past? Your thoughts? Off list if necessary to keep the list purists happy... Brian Lunergan Nepean, Ontario Canada __________________________________________________________________ Get the name you've always wanted @ymail.com or @rocketmail.com! Go to http://ca.promos.yahoo.com/jacko/ -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users@... Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users |
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Re: To switch or not to switch, that is the question...
by Daryl Styrk
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On Sun, Jul 05, 2009 at 01:50:23PM -0700, Brian Lunergan wrote:
> > Hi ho folks: > > Currently running Ubuntu 8.04 LTS. I'm no techie so the reports of upgrading problems with the latest edition don't do a thing for convincing me to move in that direction. Not yet at any rate. > > I do have a disk I made up of the Kubuntu 8.04 edition, but apparently it's not LTS and so support apparently dies out in September. Lateral shift to it still not out of the question, but I'm curious. Is it as stable a player as the 8.04 edition of Ubuntu? Would it recognize all the same hardware on my machine that Ubuntu does? Or should I just bide my time and wait for the next LTS version to wander past? > > Your thoughts? Off list if necessary to keep the list purists happy... Do you need it? If your just curious and want to check it out I suggest installing virtualbox and checking it out in there. That way should you decide it's not for you, you only need to remove the vbi and be done with it. -- Daryl Styrk Naples FL, USA -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users@... Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users |
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Re: To switch or not to switch, that is the question...
by Gordon Burgess-Parker-5
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Brian Lunergan wrote:
> Hi ho folks: > > Currently running Ubuntu 8.04 LTS. I'm no techie so the reports of upgrading problems with the latest edition don't do a thing for convincing me to move in that direction. Not yet at any rate. > > I do have a disk I made up of the Kubuntu 8.04 edition, but apparently it's not LTS and so support apparently dies out in September. Lateral shift to it still not out of the question, but I'm curious. Is it as stable a player as the 8.04 edition of Ubuntu? Would it recognize all the same hardware on my machine that Ubuntu does? Or should I just bide my time and wait for the next LTS version to wander past? > > Your thoughts? Off list if necessary to keep the list purists happy... > > Brian Lunergan > Nepean, Ontario > Canada > > > __________________________________________________________________ > Get the name you've always wanted @ymail.com or @rocketmail.com! Go to http://ca.promos.yahoo.com/jacko/ > > upgraded to 9.04 Remix with no problems whatsoever... -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users@... Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users |
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Re: To switch or not to switch, that is the question...
by Fred Roller
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On Sun, 2009-07-05 at 17:02 -0400, Daryl Styrk wrote:
> Do you need it? If your just curious and want to check it out I > suggest > installing virtualbox and checking it out in there. That way should > you > decide it's not for you, you only need to remove the vbi and be done > with > it. > I agree with Daryl, the tweeners from LTS to LTS work (dare i say) better than 90% and can be a blessing or a curse and really depends on your system, software, and usage. Input, techie or not, helps develop the OS and software. If you depend on your system for work or life though, stay with LTS. If, on the other hand you don't mind rolling up your sleeves then try the upgrades. Either way, try in virtualbox first then decide. -- Fred R. www.fwrgallery.com "Life is like Linux, simple. If you are fighting it, you are doing something wrong." -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users@... Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users |
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Re: To switch or not to switch, that is the question...
by Matthew Flaschen
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Brian Lunergan wrote:
> Hi ho folks: > > Currently running Ubuntu 8.04 LTS. I am also still using Hardy, and have been pondering the same thing as you. I'm no techie so the reports of > upgrading problems with the latest edition don't do a thing for > convincing me to move in that direction. I doubt the upgrade problems are much more severe than usual. I'm also very confident /I could/ solve any issues that arise. However, the question is whether I should bother. I have noticed several worthwhile package upgrades for Intrepid or later. E.g. mono, amarok, wine, okular, etc. So far, I've been holding off, and just building packages from source when I want something newer than Hardy. Part of the reason for this is that I don't have great backups at the moment, and I want to do a clean reinstall when I eventually upgrade. > I do have a disk I made up of the Kubuntu 8.04 edition, but > apparently it's not LTS and so support apparently dies out in > September. Lateral shift to it still not out of the question, but I'm > curious. Is it as stable a player as the 8.04 edition of Ubuntu? Yes. It's the same core packages, just a different GUI. > Would it recognize all the same hardware on my machine that Ubuntu > does? Yes. The only caveat is you might get slightly different auto-play behavior for things like external USB drives. > Your thoughts? Off list if necessary to keep the list purists happy... Your decision ultimately, but certainly worth discussing here. Matt Flaschen -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users@... Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users |
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Re: To switch or not to switch, that is the question...
by Daryl Styrk
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On Mon, Jul 06, 2009 at 03:27:50AM -0400, Matthew Flaschen wrote:
> > I have noticed several worthwhile package upgrades for Intrepid or > later. E.g. mono, amarok, wine, okular, etc. > > So far, I've been holding off, and just building packages from source > when I want something newer than Hardy. Part of the reason for this is > that I don't have great backups at the moment, and I want to do a clean > reinstall when I eventually upgrade. > Have a look at the backports. They are there to address issues like this. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports -- Daryl Styrk Naples FL, USA -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users@... Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users |
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Re: To switch or not to switch, that is the question...
by Fred Roller
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On Mon, 2009-07-06 at 12:32 -0700, Brian Lunergan wrote:
[snip] > Installed VirtualBox OSE, but not able to find an explanation of > installing Kubuntu to a virtual machine from a live CD. All the notes > I was able to find speak about using the iso file, which I no longer > have. > > Any leads on an explanation of how to load it using the live CD? Once you have "created" the machine click on the CD to the right and click the Mount check box then click the Host CD/DVD Drive. That should get the local drive going. Power on the VB Machine. > > Alternatively, I'm assuming I can use the live CD as my source for > applying the KDE desktop onto Ubuntu. Any pointers to notes or a > tutorial explaining the way to do that? Once the OS is installed the activate the cd System->Administration->Software Sources, it should be right on the first tab at the bottom. Don't think the kde package shipped with the live CD though since they have their own cd but I could be wrong. Once you do the above you can check for it. -- Fred R. www.fwrgallery.com "Life is like Linux, simple. If you are fighting it, you are doing something wrong." -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users@... Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users |
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Re: To switch or not to switch, that is the question...
by Daryl Styrk
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On Mon, Jul 06, 2009 at 12:32:44PM -0700, Brian Lunergan wrote:
> > Installed VirtualBox OSE, but not able to find an explanation of installing Kubuntu to a virtual machine from a live CD. All the notes I was able to find speak about using the iso file, which I no longer have. > > Any leads on an explanation of how to load it using the live CD? > > Alternatively, I'm assuming I can use the live CD as my source for applying the KDE desktop onto Ubuntu. Any pointers to notes or a tutorial explaining the way to do that? > You can always copy your CD back into an .iso. Once you see it on the desktop, right click and choose 'Copy Disc'. Under information, Copy disc to: Use the drop menu and select 'file image' -- Daryl Styrk Naples FL, USA -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users@... Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users |
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Re: To switch or not to switch, that is the question...
by NoOp-4
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On 07/06/2009 12:27 AM, Matthew Flaschen wrote:
> Brian Lunergan wrote: >> Hi ho folks: >> >> Currently running Ubuntu 8.04 LTS. > > I am also still using Hardy, and have been pondering the same thing as you. > > I'm no techie so the reports of >> upgrading problems with the latest edition don't do a thing for >> convincing me to move in that direction. > > I doubt the upgrade problems are much more severe than usual. I'm also > very confident /I could/ solve any issues that arise. However, the > question is whether I should bother. Perhaps for the simple fact that security updates in LTS go unheaded for months on end. Case in point: sun-java6-jre: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sun-java6/+bug/360414 Reported in April & just recently (2009-07-02) the update to -14 was added to 'Proposed' no less - so it's still not in mainstream updates. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sun-java6 Note that the previous hardy update was: > 6-07-3ubuntu2 > Published in hardy-updates on 2008-10-13 > Deleted in hardy-proposed (Reason: moved to -updates) > > sun-java6 (6-07-3ubuntu2) hardy-proposed; urgency=low > > * New upstream bug fix release. LP: #254997. > - Release notes at http://java.sun.com/javase/6/webnotes/ReleaseNotes.html. > - Including security related changes. > > -- Matthias Klose <email address hidden> Tue, 05 Aug 2008 18:37:50 +0200 There are many more security issues of this type... but the above should suffice in making my point. -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users@... Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users |
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