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by Gerhard Radatz :: Rate this Message:

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Hello,

I am used to use the keyboard with shortcuts whenever possible, so that my hands can stay on the keyboard and need not jumping between keyboard and mouse all the time.
When I am editing a note and want to apply special formatting, I press <alt-T>, so the "Text" button in the toolbar pops up a menu showing me special formatting options. However, after having selected an option, I press enter and the the "text" button keeps focused.

How do I get back to my textfield area to continue editing?? The arrow keys highlight toolbar buttons in some irritating unpredictable order. The ESC key CLOSES the window - this is REALLY REALLY annoying! Ok TAB helps but that is not obvious.

In other applications, normally the Escape key cancels the focus from the menu bar. The toolbar here acts as a menu bar, so I think this should be the same.
Additionally, I think the toolbar should not take focus at all.
At least, I would like to have an option so that Escape does not close the window anymore.

Is there any chance to get this?
Thanks
Gerhard



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Re: Tomboy Hotkey Handling

by Benjamin Podszun-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Hi

On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Gerhard Radatz <gerhard.radatz@...> wrote:
I am used to use the keyboard with shortcuts whenever possible, so that my hands can stay on the keyboard and need not jumping between keyboard and mouse all the time.
When I am editing a note and want to apply special formatting, I press <alt-T>, so the "Text" button in the toolbar pops up a menu showing me special formatting options. However, after having selected an option, I press enter and the the "text" button keeps focused.

I'm a heavy keyboard user myself. Of course everyone has a different way of working with a piece of software, but - why don't you use the direct hotkeys (ctrl+b for bold etc.)? Or are you using a lot of things from the menu without a direct shortcut?

How do I get back to my textfield area to continue editing?? The arrow keys highlight toolbar buttons in some irritating unpredictable order. The ESC key CLOSES the window - this is REALLY REALLY annoying! Ok TAB helps but that is not obvious.

In other applications, normally the Escape key cancels the focus from the menu bar. The toolbar here acts as a menu bar, so I think this should be the same.
Additionally, I think the toolbar should not take focus at all.
At least, I would like to have an option so that Escape does not close the window anymore.

Is there any chance to get this?

Usually the best way to request a new feature is to file an enhancement request at http://bugs.gnome.org/ (free account needed).
That way you (and other interested users) can easily track the progress and it won't get lost in a long list of mails.

Overall I think this is a good idea, but I'm not sure if this can be done easily. Need to investigate that first (and wait for other opinions, even if it can be done).

Regards,
Ben

P.S.: Sorry for the dupe, Gerhard. Missed to hit reply all the first time.
 


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Re: Tomboy Hotkey Handling

by Stefan Schweizer-4 :: Rate this Message:

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On Tue, 2009-06-30 at 10:10 +0200, Gerhard Radatz wrote:
> In other applications, normally the Escape key cancels the focus from
> the menu bar. The toolbar here acts as a menu bar, so I think this
> should be the same.
> Additionally, I think the toolbar should not take focus at all.

There is already a bug report about this:
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=534121

> At least, I would like to have an option so that Escape does not close
> the window anymore.

This is already possible. There is a hidden gconf preference where you
can disable the escape key: /apps/tomboy/enable_close_note_on_escape.
You can edit that key with gconf-editor.

        Stefan

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Re: Tomboy Hotkey Handling

by Gerhard Radatz :: Rate this Message:

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Oh, ok.
Following Benjamin's recommendation, I just filed a new bug report - sorry for the duplicate:
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=587403

Thanks for the gconf-setting tip!
Gerhard


2009/6/30 Stefan Schweizer <steve.schweizer@...>
On Tue, 2009-06-30 at 10:10 +0200, Gerhard Radatz wrote:
> In other applications, normally the Escape key cancels the focus from
> the menu bar. The toolbar here acts as a menu bar, so I think this
> should be the same.
> Additionally, I think the toolbar should not take focus at all.

There is already a bug report about this:
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=534121

> At least, I would like to have an option so that Escape does not close
> the window anymore.

This is already possible. There is a hidden gconf preference where you
can disable the escape key: /apps/tomboy/enable_close_note_on_escape.
You can edit that key with gconf-editor.

       Stefan



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Re: Tomboy Hotkey Handling

by Sandy Armstrong :: Rate this Message:

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Maybe we should only close the window on Esc if the content area has
focus...otherwise, Esc would return focus to the content area.

Sandy

On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 1:49 AM, Gerhard Radatz<gerhard.radatz@...> wrote:

> Oh, ok.
> Following Benjamin's recommendation, I just filed a new bug report - sorry
> for the duplicate:
> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=587403
>
> Thanks for the gconf-setting tip!
> Gerhard
>
>
> 2009/6/30 Stefan Schweizer <steve.schweizer@...>
>>
>> On Tue, 2009-06-30 at 10:10 +0200, Gerhard Radatz wrote:
>> > In other applications, normally the Escape key cancels the focus from
>> > the menu bar. The toolbar here acts as a menu bar, so I think this
>> > should be the same.
>> > Additionally, I think the toolbar should not take focus at all.
>>
>> There is already a bug report about this:
>> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=534121
>>
>> > At least, I would like to have an option so that Escape does not close
>> > the window anymore.
>>
>> This is already possible. There is a hidden gconf preference where you
>> can disable the escape key: /apps/tomboy/enable_close_note_on_escape.
>> You can edit that key with gconf-editor.
>>
>>        Stefan
>>
>
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