Trac

[Tim Schofield]

Nobody panic, I am not reigniting any flames here :-)

I have started to look at Trac and how we can use it to help things
along. The first problem I think is that it is just so hard to find if
you are not an experienced sourceforge user. Looking on mailing lists
for other projects I am involved in and that use trac I find the
constant stream of "please go and raise a trac ticket" responses
tiresome to read, and must be even more tiresome to have to write. For
a start you would have to know what trac is, then you would have to
know that you need to first click on `Develop`, and then `Hosted Apps`
and then `Trac`. Hardly an obvious thing to most people - at least not
to me. If its hard to find then people will not use it. All that will
happen is that people will continue to only use the mailing lists to
post issues.

Anybody have any ideas how to improve this? I think that we need to
start to put links to the trac front page wherever is applicable to
try to get some traffic there, but also I think we should update that
front page (at the moment its just a standard trac page) to help
people use it, give some coding guidelines, links to various pages on
trac that would be useful. What do people think, and any volunteers?

Tim

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[Javier de Lorenzo-Cáceres]

I'm very happy to read this, I didn't realize trac was there waiting for us
to heed it. I was wondering what trac client to install to begin to make use
of trac :-)

If you agree, I will edit the front page to include an utf-8 section and I
will create one ticket for the change that I think must be achieved about
making font selection a function of user's choice instead locale. (I'm in no
hurry and I must to do the weekend gardening now).

I believe that Trac admin is in WebERP's admins hands, thus for me it's all
about tickets, right?. As the central element of Trac, Tickets are going to
be our main (major) tool from now on, and we are going to use them for
tasks, bugs, issues and features, am I right?

Thank you very much,
javier


----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Schofield" <tim.schofield1960@...>
To: "webERP Users" <web-erp-users@...>
Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 8:39 AM
Subject: [webERP-users] Trac

> Nobody panic, I am not reigniting any flames here :-)
>
> I have started to look at Trac and how we can use it to help things
> along. The first problem I think is that it is just so hard to find if
> you are not an experienced sourceforge user. Looking on mailing lists
> for other projects I am involved in and that use trac I find the
> constant stream of "please go and raise a trac ticket" responses
> tiresome to read, and must be even more tiresome to have to write. For
> a start you would have to know what trac is, then you would have to
> know that you need to first click on `Develop`, and then `Hosted Apps`
> and then `Trac`. Hardly an obvious thing to most people - at least not
> to me. If its hard to find then people will not use it. All that will
> happen is that people will continue to only use the mailing lists to
> post issues.
>
> Anybody have any ideas how to improve this? I think that we need to
> start to put links to the trac front page wherever is applicable to
> try to get some traffic there, but also I think we should update that
> front page (at the moment its just a standard trac page) to help
> people use it, give some coding guidelines, links to various pages on
> trac that would be useful. What do people think, and any volunteers?
>
> Tim
>
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[Tim Schofield]

Hi Javier,

2009/10/3 AESE, S.L., Javier de Lorenzo-Cáceres. <info@...>:
> I'm very happy to read this, I didn't realize trac was there waiting for us
> to heed it. I was wondering what trac client to install to begin to make use
> of trac :-)

I guess this proves my point :-)

>
> If you agree, I will edit the front page to include an utf-8 section and I
> will create one ticket for the change that I think must be achieved about
> making font selection a function of user's choice instead locale. (I'm in no
> hurry and I must to do the weekend gardening now).

Please feel free to edit it. I think we need it as friendly looking as
we can get it so that when people reach it they will use it.

>
> I believe that Trac admin is in WebERP's admins hands, thus for me it's all
> about tickets, right?. As the central element of Trac, Tickets are going to
> be our main (major) tool from now on, and we are going to use them for
> tasks, bugs, issues and features, am I right?

Providing we can get people to use it then yes.

>
> Thank you very much,
> javier
>

Thanks
Tim

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[Nicholas Lee]

On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 3:21 AM, Tim Schofield <tim.schofield1960@...> wrote:

> I believe that Trac admin is in WebERP's admins hands, thus for me it's all
> about tickets, right?. As the central element of Trac, Tickets are going to
> be our main (major) tool from now on, and we are going to use them for
> tasks, bugs, issues and features, am I right?

Providing we can get people to use it then yes.

I wonder if they is some way to allow users to submit bugs from within weberp or a via a php script?

Nicholas 

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[Tim Schofield]

Hi Nicholas,

2009/11/5 Nicholas Lee <emptysands@...>:

>
> I wonder if they is some way to allow users to submit bugs from within
> weberp or a via a php script?
>
> Nicholas

It seems trac has an xml-rpc server built into it and that sourceforge
allow that to be used. I was looking at this to try and get the bug
tracker and trac synced, and so it would be possible to use this to
provide an upload script as well.

Tim

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[Bogdan Stanciu]

Hi everyone,


We could have a form in weberp, which sends a message to whatever email
you want.


or even an error "Collector" something that can directly retrieve the
error message, system version and so on, and sent it if the user clicks
a button.  automatic data collection has the advantage that the user
doe's not have to remember to mention mySQL version, OS, webERP version,
etc.


trac is a dev tool on sourceforge, not something an accountant/other
that developer would necessarily use :-)


by the way, what is the "procedure " to register new features
proposals/demands [not bugs/errors]? where do we store them? trac? wiki?
other?


thanks,

bogdan


Tim Schofield wrote:

> Hi Nicholas,
>
> 2009/11/5 Nicholas Lee <emptysands@...>:
>
>  
>> I wonder if they is some way to allow users to submit bugs from within
>> weberp or a via a php script?
>>
>> Nicholas
>>    
>
> It seems trac has an xml-rpc server built into it and that sourceforge
> allow that to be used. I was looking at this to try and get the bug
> tracker and trac synced, and so it would be possible to use this to
> provide an upload script as well.
>
> Tim
>
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