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Translator metrics in Damned Lies
by Rodrigo Flores-3
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I've talked with Leonardo Fontenelle and he told me an idea to improve Damned Lies: some translator metrics. Sometimes is useful to see how many translations a translator have done or how many time the user is inactive. Maybe it can be useful when we promote translators to reviewers. What do you think about that ? -- "A critical section of code is like a bathroom. Only one person is allowed inside at once. Iker Gondra, Operating Systems St. Francis Xavier University, Antigonish, NS" =================== Rodrigo L. M. Flores Computer Science Student - IME - USP Homepage (en): http://www.rodrigoflores.org Blog (pt-BR): http://blog.rodrigoflores.org Linux User # : 351304 Jabber: im@... _______________________________________________ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n |
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Re: Translator metrics in Damned Lies
by Jorge González González
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On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 02:52, Rodrigo Flores <mail@...> wrote: > Hi > > I've talked with Leonardo Fontenelle and he told me an idea to improve > Damned Lies: some translator metrics. Sometimes is useful to see how > many translations a translator have done or how many time the user is > inactive. Maybe it can be useful when we promote translators to > reviewers. > > What do you think about that ? +1, great idea! Cheers. -- aloriel@... http://aloriel.no-ip.org IM: aloriel@... _______________________________________________ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n |
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Re: Translator metrics in Damned Lies
by Matej Urbančič
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Isn't that also on http://cia.vc/authorname?
I think there should also be another column, a maintainer of the package, in UI Translations release view. Maintainer is a translator that keeps an eye on the package, but it's not necessarily the only translator. If maintainers alias would be shown in separate column, one could "check" how many packages one person controls, which packages are still without maintainer and also see, which "my" packages were changed lately and need an update ... I also think that data like multiple plurals, should be edited by coordinators. A bug report for wring multiple plurals for Slovenian is opened for a long, long time ... M! 2009/10/5 Jorge González <aloriel@...>: > Hi, > > On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 02:52, Rodrigo Flores <mail@...> wrote: >> Hi >> >> I've talked with Leonardo Fontenelle and he told me an idea to improve >> Damned Lies: some translator metrics. Sometimes is useful to see how >> many translations a translator have done or how many time the user is >> inactive. Maybe it can be useful when we promote translators to >> reviewers. >> >> What do you think about that ? > +1, great idea! > > Cheers. > -- > aloriel@... > http://aloriel.no-ip.org > IM: aloriel@... > _______________________________________________ > gnome-i18n mailing list > gnome-i18n@... > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n > gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n |
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Re: Translator metrics in Damned Lies
by Andre Klapper
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Am Montag, den 05.10.2009, 11:05 +0200 schrieb Matej Urban:
> Isn't that also on http://cia.vc/authorname? Errr...no? From a very quick look you could see that according to cia.vc everybody stopped contributing to GNOME half a year ago, when GNOME switched to Git. andre -- mailto:ak-47@... | failed http://www.iomc.de/ | http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper _______________________________________________ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n |
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Re: Translator metrics in Damned Lies
by Rodrigo Flores-3
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On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 06:31, Andre Klapper <ak-47@...> wrote:
> Am Montag, den 05.10.2009, 11:05 +0200 schrieb Matej Urban: >> Isn't that also on http://cia.vc/authorname? > > Errr...no? From a very quick look you could see that according to cia.vc > everybody stopped contributing to GNOME half a year ago, when GNOME > switched to Git. Are you sure? My profile in cia.vc is updated [1] and I became a commiter 2 months ago. [1] http://cia.vc/stats/author/rlmflores > > andre > -- > mailto:ak-47@... | failed > http://www.iomc.de/ | http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-i18n mailing list > gnome-i18n@... > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n > -- "A critical section of code is like a bathroom. Only one person is allowed inside at once. Iker Gondra, Operating Systems St. Francis Xavier University, Antigonish, NS" =================== Rodrigo L. M. Flores Computer Science Student - IME - USP Homepage (en): http://www.rodrigoflores.org Blog (pt-BR): http://blog.rodrigoflores.org Linux User # : 351304 Jabber: im@... _______________________________________________ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n |
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Re: Translator metrics in Damned Lies
by Claude Paroz-2
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Le lundi 05 octobre 2009 à 11:31 +0200, Andre Klapper a écrit :
> Am Montag, den 05.10.2009, 11:05 +0200 schrieb Matej Urban: > > Isn't that also on http://cia.vc/authorname? > > Errr...no? From a very quick look you could see that according to cia.vc > everybody stopped contributing to GNOME half a year ago, when GNOME > switched to Git. Not exactly: http://cia.vc/stats/project/GNOME In fact, the username detection changed, as Git username is not visible in logs. See also: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=595936 Claude _______________________________________________ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n |
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Re: Translator metrics in Damned Lies
by Matej Urbančič
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On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Claude Paroz <claude@...> wrote:
> Le lundi 05 octobre 2009 à 11:31 +0200, Andre Klapper a écrit : >> Am Montag, den 05.10.2009, 11:05 +0200 schrieb Matej Urban: >> > Isn't that also on http://cia.vc/authorname? >> >> Errr...no? From a very quick look you could see that according to cia.vc >> everybody stopped contributing to GNOME half a year ago, when GNOME >> switched to Git. > > Not exactly: http://cia.vc/stats/project/GNOME > > In fact, the username detection changed, as Git username is not visible > in logs. See also: > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=595936 > While solving the bug, it is also very important to add a feature to "combine" usernames. My changes for example are measured using three different usernames. I think adding cia.vs line to damned-lies as some users already haveshould also be in the users settings and coordination domain. _______________________________________________ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n |
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Re: Translator metrics in Damned Lies
by Claude Paroz-2
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Le lundi 05 octobre 2009 à 12:09 +0200, Matej Urban a écrit :
> On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Claude Paroz <claude@...> wrote: > > Le lundi 05 octobre 2009 à 11:31 +0200, Andre Klapper a écrit : > >> Am Montag, den 05.10.2009, 11:05 +0200 schrieb Matej Urban: > >> > Isn't that also on http://cia.vc/authorname? > >> > >> Errr...no? From a very quick look you could see that according to cia.vc > >> everybody stopped contributing to GNOME half a year ago, when GNOME > >> switched to Git. > > > > Not exactly: http://cia.vc/stats/project/GNOME > > > > In fact, the username detection changed, as Git username is not visible > > in logs. See also: > > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=595936 > > > > While solving the bug, it is also very important to add a feature to > "combine" usernames. My changes for example are measured using three > different usernames. I think adding cia.vs line to damned-lies as some > users already haveshould also be in the users settings and > coordination domain. Please comment in the bug report. Claude _______________________________________________ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n |
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Re: Translator metrics in Damned Lies
by Andre Klapper
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Am Montag, den 05.10.2009, 11:56 +0200 schrieb Claude Paroz:
> Not exactly: http://cia.vc/stats/project/GNOME > > In fact, the username detection changed, as Git username is not visible > in logs. See also: > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=595936 Oh! Thanks for correcting me, I was still looking at the old http://cia.vc/stats/author/aklapper . andre -- mailto:ak-47@... | failed http://www.iomc.de/ | http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper _______________________________________________ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n |
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Re: Translator metrics in Damned Lies
by Petr Kovar
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Matej Urban <matej.urban@...>, Mon, 5 Oct 2009 11:05:12 +0200: > Isn't that also on http://cia.vc/authorname? > > I think there should also be another column, a maintainer of the > package, in UI Translations release view. Maintainer is a translator > that keeps an eye on the package, but it's not necessarily the only > translator. If maintainers alias would be shown in separate column, > one could "check" how many packages one person controls, which > packages are still without maintainer and also see, which "my" > packages were changed lately and need an update ... Right, we've the following bug already filed in Bugzilla, it might be of interest (not only) to you: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=568770 It goes without saying that the current Vertimus is already doing a huge amount of work for us, however, it's evident that it doesn't fully support workflow in teams, which have these translation maintainers, as you call it. In contrast to the teams that reserve & translate packages ad hoc, there's a need for an extra reservation every time the reservation gets reset, e.g. after a translation update commit is announced in Vertimus, so team can continue to maintain a reliable, current enough overview of who translates what. > I also think that data like multiple plurals, should be edited by > coordinators. Yes, that'd be nice to have too. :-) Best, Petr Kovar _______________________________________________ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n |
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Re: Translator metrics in Damned Lies
by Petr Kovar
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Rodrigo Flores <mail@...>, Mon, 5 Oct 2009 06:56:35 -0300:
> On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 06:31, Andre Klapper <ak-47@...> wrote: > > Am Montag, den 05.10.2009, 11:05 +0200 schrieb Matej Urban: > >> Isn't that also on http://cia.vc/authorname? > > > > Errr...no? From a very quick look you could see that according to cia.vc > > everybody stopped contributing to GNOME half a year ago, when GNOME > > switched to Git. > Are you sure? > > My profile in cia.vc is updated [1] and I became a commiter 2 months ago. > > [1] http://cia.vc/stats/author/rlmflores Well, that might be because your email address "username" and you Git username are the same... ? See: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=595936#c1 Anyway, I'm afraid it isn't worthwhile count the cia.vc stats in when thinking of implementing some sort of translator metrics. Pondering a kind of (former) Bugzilla user point system we used to have in old bugzilla.gnome.org, Vertimus might already contain enough data for that. But then again, I'm just guessing here. It's obviously up to our great implementers to decide what can be really done and what can we expect on this subject. :-) Cheers, Petr Kovar _______________________________________________ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n |
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Re: Translator metrics in Damned Lies
by Claude Paroz-2
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Le dimanche 04 octobre 2009 à 21:52 -0300, Rodrigo Flores a écrit :
> Hi > > I've talked with Leonardo Fontenelle and he told me an idea to improve > Damned Lies: some translator metrics. Sometimes is useful to see how > many translations a translator have done or how many time the user is > inactive. Maybe it can be useful when we promote translators to > reviewers. > > What do you think about that ? Just to acknowledge that i carefully read your various proposals around this thread. Please do note what seems to be agreed upon in a bug report, so as not to lose the ideas. Now it's always the same problem. Time, time, time... :-( Claude _______________________________________________ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n |
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Re: Translator metrics in Damned Lies
by Claude Paroz-2
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Le lundi 05 octobre 2009 à 11:05 +0200, Matej Urban a écrit :
(...) > > I also think that data like multiple plurals, should be edited by > coordinators. A bug report for wring multiple plurals for Slovenian is > opened for a long, long time ... Bug number? Claude _______________________________________________ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n |
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Re: Translator metrics in Damned Lies
by Rodrigo Flores-3
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On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 09:47, Claude Paroz <claude@...> wrote:
> Le dimanche 04 octobre 2009 à 21:52 -0300, Rodrigo Flores a écrit : >> Hi >> >> I've talked with Leonardo Fontenelle and he told me an idea to improve >> Damned Lies: some translator metrics. Sometimes is useful to see how >> many translations a translator have done or how many time the user is >> inactive. Maybe it can be useful when we promote translators to >> reviewers. >> >> What do you think about that ? > > Just to acknowledge that i carefully read your various proposals around > this thread. Please do note what seems to be agreed upon in a bug > report, so as not to lose the ideas. this to be implemented in a hurry, I'm sending only an idea to improve :-). https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=598000 > Now it's always the same problem. Time, time, time... :-( > > Claude > > _______________________________________________ > gnome-i18n mailing list > gnome-i18n@... > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n > -- "A critical section of code is like a bathroom. Only one person is allowed inside at once. Iker Gondra, Operating Systems St. Francis Xavier University, Antigonish, NS" =================== Rodrigo L. M. Flores Computer Science Student - IME - USP Homepage (en): http://www.rodrigoflores.org Blog (pt-BR): http://blog.rodrigoflores.org Linux User # : 351304 Jabber: im@... _______________________________________________ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n |
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Re: Translator metrics in Damned Lies
by Matej Urbančič
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I'd like to add something about stats.
Stats for the user should count number of strings changed, which would also give credit to reviewers. I think that adding a comma or period when finalizing the translation is worth as much as translation itself. Translators usually don't "look" back on finished translations. Matej _______________________________________________ gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n |
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Re: Translator metrics in Damned Lies
by Matej Urbančič
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Is there a way to see statistics for specific translator in git?
I found "git blame filename", but do not now how to translate the output in numbers. Matej On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Matej Urban <matej.urban@...> wrote: > I'd like to add something about stats. > > Stats for the user should count number of strings changed, which would > also give credit to reviewers. I think that adding a comma or period > when finalizing the translation is worth as much as translation > itself. Translators usually don't "look" back on finished > translations. > > Matej > gnome-i18n mailing list gnome-i18n@... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n |
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