Trophy

[MotoSadik]

Hi to you all ...
I am new here as U ca see and I have a crush on Triumph Trophy.
I don't have one (yet) but I hope to have one this year.
I am more intrested in the 900 cmc version, but I olso want to hear
you recomandations.
And one more thing ... what is the fuel consumption ???

Thanks.
SEBASTIAN

[Robert-321]

Sebastian welcome to the group.
 
 
The 900's are not as thirsty as the 1200's  but if it's High Fuel
economy you are looking for consider a Vespa.  The Trophy delivers a
Grin factor that goes ear to ear.  Doing that takes fuel.  Expect
somewhere in the low to mid 40 USMPG for a 900 and mid 30's for a 1200.
That is provided you keep it in tune and ride "legal" Speeds.
 
 
Fuel injected bikes of near 1/2 a liter in displacement are much better
in the mileage category.  2 Cylinder Horizontally opposed, and V-twins
near 3/4 liter (IE not of American Heritage) are fairly economical to
run and maintain.  
 
That said, if you like a Trophy enough, the fuel consumption isn't
really an issue.  They are top heavy and they do like AVON tires.  Plan
on buying a set of Nology coils.
 
And spending lots of time on the Trophy list here.
 
Remember as far as Triumph goes the Trophies are orphans.
 
 
 
Bob Clark
01 Sunset Red Trophy 1200
96 Magna Red Honda PC-800
71 Suzuki T-500
Augusta, GA
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: TriumphTrophy@...
[mailto:TriumphTrophy@...] On Behalf Of cavalerulsadik
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 2:23 AM
To: TriumphTrophy@...
Subject: [TriumphTrophy] Trophy



Hi to you all ...
I am new here as U ca see and I have a crush on Triumph Trophy.
I don't have one (yet) but I hope to have one this year.
I am more intrested in the 900 cmc version, but I olso want to hear
you recomandations.
And one more thing ... what is the fuel consumption ???

Thanks.
SEBASTIAN



 



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[Robert-321]

 


 
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Tom:
 
I had my sump off a few weeks ago.  I didn't see 2 oil pumps.  What
drives the one for the oil cooler?  Where is the one for the oil cooler?
 
Bob Clark
01 Sunset Red Trophy 1200
96 Magna Red Honda PC-800
71 Suzuki T-500
Augusta, GA



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[bmillard7291]

Hi Sebastian,
Welcome to the Trophy group! :-)
What model Trophy you looking at buying? I run a '95 model which is
slightly more sporty than touring. Check out the photo's of the bikes
posted on the main group page to see the diffrent models. And while
your at it, have a read of the files etc so you can learn more about
the Trophy.
The Trophy is a big top heavy bike and care must be taken at slow
speeds or when your pushing it around. The 900 is lighter than the 1200
and seems to have less problems ;-)
The 900 has bags of torque and will quite happily pull like a train
when two up and loaded down with camping gear!
Don't be afraid to ask any questions concerning the Trophy as we have a
very good group of Trophy owners here who can answer nearly every
question.
Let us know when you buy it and post a photo of the bike.
Cheers,
Bob

[Tom D.]

--- In TriumphTrophy@..., "Robert Clark" <apsllp@...>
wrote:
>  
> Tom:
>  
> I had my sump off a few weeks ago.  I didn't see 2 oil pumps.  What
> drives the one for the oil cooler?  Where is the one for the oil
cooler?
>  
> Bob Clark
> 01 Sunset Red Trophy 1200

Bob,
      Not sure how the two pumps are installed (stacked ??), but it
clearly shows two pumps in the factory manual, both in diagram and
text.

Tom D.

[Tom D.]

--- In TriumphTrophy@..., "Robert Clark" <apsllp@...>
wrote:
>  Doing that takes fuel.  Expect
> somewhere in the low to mid 40 USMPG for a 900 and mid 30's for a
1200.
> That is provided you keep it in tune and ride "legal" Speeds.


I heard that Bob... Try like 50mpg for a 1999 and newer 1200 if you
ride at legal speeds and keep it properly tuned!!!!

So there................

  Tom D.


 

[Robert-321]

I'd rather quote something on the conservative side, and have him be
delighted if he gets more than he expected !
My 1200 is a 2001.  I've gotten as poor as 27 USMPG and the best so far
was 37MPG. I average closer to 33MPG.  
 
In my opinion it isn't the speeds I ride but the short time it takes me
to get to those speeds that is reducing my mileage. I do know that I'm
set slightly rich on the mixture by choice.  The Dyno numbers were great
as for the HP I'm putting to the pavement.  I don't ride it like a
touring bike.  Maybe I'm not mentally old enough to be that sedate.
 
Bob
 

-----Original Message-----
From: TriumphTrophy@...
[mailto:TriumphTrophy@...] On Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 1:44 PM
To: TriumphTrophy@...
Subject: [TriumphTrophy] Re: Trophy



--- In TriumphTrophy@ <mailto:TriumphTrophy%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com, "Robert Clark" <apsllp@...>
wrote:
> Doing that takes fuel. Expect
> somewhere in the low to mid 40 USMPG for a 900 and mid 30's for a
1200.
> That is provided you keep it in tune and ride "legal" Speeds.

I heard that Bob... Try like 50mpg for a 1999 and newer 1200 if you
ride at legal speeds and keep it properly tuned!!!!

So there................

Tom D.



 



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[MotoSadik]

Thanks to Bob and Robert Clark for the suggestions.
The fuel consumption is not that big considering the fact that is an 90' bike and is not
fuel injected.
I'm looking for a model between 97  -- 2001.
I have some experience with bikes (I have a Suzuki DR 650 91 model), and my girlfriend has
a Yamaha Diversion 600 98' model ... so weight issue  is not a problem .
And I've driven a Trophy 1200 and I like it a lot.
Even my girlfriend who has 51 kilos enjoyed  it ...
I expect to buy it in a couple of weeks and when I do I will post pictures of it.

By the way ... I am not from the States ... far , far away.

Sebastian
 

----- Original Message ----
From: bmillard7291 <bmillard7291@...>
To: TriumphTrophy@...
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 5:52:28 PM
Subject: [TriumphTrophy] Re: Trophy









 


   
            Hi Sebastian,

Welcome to the Trophy group! :-)

What model Trophy you looking at buying? I run a '95 model which is

slightly more sporty than touring. Check out the photo's of the bikes

posted on the main group page to see the diffrent models. And while

your at it, have a read of the files etc so you can learn more about

the Trophy.

The Trophy is a big top heavy bike and care must be taken at slow

speeds or when your pushing it around. The 900 is lighter than the 1200

and seems to have less problems ;-)

The 900 has bags of torque and will quite happily pull like a train

when two up and loaded down with camping gear!

Don't be afraid to ask any questions concerning the Trophy as we have a

very good group of Trophy owners here who can answer nearly every

question.

Let us know when you buy it and post a photo of the bike.

Cheers,

Bob





   
 

   
   




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[Alec Gore]

It still looks like one pump, except the later ones have two
impellors, one at each end. Still the same basic unit, driven
off the back of the clutch and sitting in between that and the
water pump, which drives off the same shaft through a spade
connection.

Alec

> -----Original Message-----
> From: TriumphTrophy@...
> [mailto:TriumphTrophy@...] On Behalf Of Tom

> >  
> > I had my sump off a few weeks ago.  I didn't see 2 oil
pumps.  What
> > drives the one for the oil cooler?  Where is the one for the
oil
> cooler?

[Alec Gore]

I really must come to the defence of the Trophy on the
accusation about it's supposed "top-heaviness". As they say,
it's only heavy if you drop it! The beauty of a bike like the
Trophy, especially the 1200 with so much low down torque is that
the throttle can be used to hold it up. What? Yes, practise it!
Ride a figure-of-eight around a yard until you get confident
having the bike fairly well leaned over; then, at the apex of
any turn, gently roll on the throttle and get used to the
feeling of having the just-on-throttle hold the bike's
inclination to fall into the turn. Once you've got used to that
wonderful balance point, it's like putty and a brilliant bike
for slow riding demonstrations. I use mine to teach slow riding
courses!

As for driveway and parking lot difficulties, especially for
those who are short in the leg, think first. If you park a bike
so you can drive out uphill, you won't get into difficulty.

Regards

Alec

> -----Original Message-----
> The Trophy is a big top heavy bike and care must be taken at
> slow speeds or when your pushing it around.

[jasonspencer24015]

I have a 1996 pacific blue trophy 900 for sale. I will tell you that these bike's are by far some of the best that I have owned. I love the triple motor for the performance and the reliability. The trophy is an awsome machine for long rides, canyon carving and just riding through town. I am selling mine because I am going to start a side business but I will own another one once I get the business up and running. This bike is geared you all around type of riding. I am running a 19 front and 43 rear sproket which makes around a 372 + or - a little gear ratio. I get 250mi. to a tank @ 70 to 80mph long haul and about 280 just putting around. I am asking $3850. nego. for the bike. This bike has the following things going with it. Stock and D&D cans, stock and tall windshields, heated grips, L&R Throttle rockers, gel grips, fork upgrade, driving lights, 12v plug in wired for heated vest or gloves, nelson rig tail bag, bike pack tail luggage, matched hard bags, new quad x-ring
 chain, corbin canyon seat and matching backrest and bike cover. I am sending you some pic's. I am located in salem, va. 24153 my home # is 540-389-5017

cavalerulsadik <cavalerulsadik@...> wrote:           Hi to you all ...
I am new here as U ca see and I have a crush on Triumph Trophy.
I don't have one (yet) but I hope to have one this year.
I am more intrested in the 900 cmc version, but I olso want to hear
you recomandations.
And one more thing ... what is the fuel consumption ???

Thanks.
SEBASTIAN



                         

       
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[jim schisler]

Hey!  I've never had any problems with my Trophy that a dead chicken
dance around
the bike three times during full moon couldn't cure.  That and disabling
the clock...
Lets not get into that 1200/900 thing!  8^)
-----
bmillard7291 wrote:

>
> Hi Sebastian,
> Welcome to the Trophy group! :-)
> What model Trophy you looking at buying? I run a '95 model which is
> slightly more sporty than touring. Check out the photo's of the bikes
> posted on the main group page to see the diffrent models. And while
> your at it, have a read of the files etc so you can learn more about
> the Trophy.
> The Trophy is a big top heavy bike and care must be taken at slow
> speeds or when your pushing it around. The 900 is lighter than the 1200
> and seems to have less problems ;-)
>

[Bonny]

 
 
In a message dated 9/11/2007 10:50:55 PM GMT Standard Time,  
e-mail@... writes:

As for  driveway and parking lot difficulties, especially for
those who are short  in the leg, think first. If you park a bike
so you can drive out uphill,  you won't get into  difficulty.

Regards

Alec



Basic MotoX skill. Let the bike do the work not you.
 
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[Stef Kirk]

I should this to our Collie "Milly" and she totaly agrees !

Stef
Scotland


  ----- Original Message -----
  From: BWG3COY@...
  To: TriumphTrophy@...
  Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 12:18 PM
  Subject: Re: [TriumphTrophy] Re: Trophy




  In a message dated 9/11/2007 10:50:55 PM GMT Standard Time,
  e-mail@... writes:

  As for driveway and parking lot difficulties, especially for
  those who are short in the leg, think first. If you park a bike
  so you can drive out uphill, you won't get into difficulty.

  Regards

  Alec

  Basic MotoX skill. Let the bike do the work not you.

  Handle Every Situation Like a Dog

  If You cant eat it or Screw it. Piss on it and walk away.
  BORDER COLLIES ROCK

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[Robert-321]

The differences between the 2 models are not that great. 33lbs, about
10HP, 15Nm of torque.  One shifts a little bit more on the 900 and
spends a little more for an additional spark plug and some fuel in
trade.  The 900 has a 3 cylinder growl and the 4 cylinder 1200 sounds
and feels slightly smoother. I own a 1200 but would be equally happy
with a 900.  I didn't purchase my machine, my wife did as a gift for me.
She picked the color also So as far she is concearned, those of you on
here will always hear that I love my 1200 Trophy. It's perfect!  After
riding on the back with me for years, she decided she wanted to learn
how to drive.  Hence she now rides a Honda PC-800 which weighs in at
640lbs  She is 5'2 and 120lbs with a short 26" inseam.  She would like
the performance of a Trophy for herself, the issue is that she is short
legged.  I jsut smile and tell her her legs are as long as everyone
elses,  They go from her Arse to the floor.  She keeps up just fine with
my Trophy that is unless I crank the throttle hard.

 
We ride as a family, she takes the tent and some camping gear on her
rear seat and our 11 year old boy rides on the back with me.
 
For those of you who make the differences sound really spectacular here
is the data.  It's more about personal preferences and what you like.
That said, If Triumph would get off thier cruiser kick and build another
Trophy it wouldn't matter to me if it was a 3 cylinder 900, 1200, or
anything else. I think it would sell.
 
Imagine: A Trophy (any size engine) with Fuel injection, Shaft Drive,
and a new easy to service airbox, Nology coils std, Possibly air
adjustable forks and an adjustible windshield. Triumph could likley take
the long distance sport touring market. This all with the existing
fairing, trunk, and bags no styling changes needed. How many of us would
start forming a line to purchase......
 
 
For those of you who make the differences sound really spectacular here
is the data from the 2001 Models.
 
2001 TRIUMPH TROPHY (Specifications)


ENGINE

Trophy 1200  

1180cc

Liquid-cooled, DOHC, in-line 4-cylinder

Weight (Dry) 235kg (518lb)

PERFORMANCE  (measured to DIN 70020)

Maximum Power 108PS (107bhp) at 9,000 rpm

Maximum Torque

104Nm (77ft-lbf) at 5,000 rpm

 

=======================================

ENGINE

Trophy 900

885cc

Liquid-cooled, DOHC, in-line 3-cylinder

Weight (Dry) 220kg (485lb)


PERFORMANCE  (measured to DIN 70020)

Maximum Power 98PS (97bhp) at 9,000 rpm

Maximum Torque 83Nm (61ft-lbf) at 6,500rpm

 

 

Bob Clark

01 Sunset Red Trophy 1200

96 magna Red Honda PC-800

71 Suzuki T-500

Augusta, GA

 
 

 
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[Bonny]

 
 
In a message dated 9/12/2007 2:04:00 PM GMT Standard Time,  
apsllp@... writes:

That  said, If Triumph would get off thier cruiser kick and build another
Trophy  it wouldn't matter to me if it was a 3 cylinder 900, 1200, or
anything  else. I think it would sell.

Imagine: A Trophy (any size engine) with  Fuel injection, Shaft Drive,
and a new easy to service airbox, Nology coils  std, Possibly air
adjustable forks and an adjustible windshield. Triumph  could likley take
the long distance sport touring market. This all with the  existing
fairing, trunk, and bags no styling changes needed. How many of us  would
start forming a line to  purchase....st




Its what we've all said since the Trophy came out.
 
We have had polls on this list to confirm that.
Triumph always said that Tourers dont sell, well because of speed  
restriction and general slowing down of Sports bike sales the Touring market is  up
there. So I do wish they would get on with making one.
 
Handle Every Situation Like a Dog


If You cant eat it or Screw it. Piss  on it and walk away.
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[Dean Barger]

No $$$ in that approach.
   
   
  http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/mcn/2007/August/aug13-19/aug1407triumphrocketiiitouringexclusivespyshots/
   
   
    New bikes
  14 August 2007 10:52
    Here are the world’s first pictures of the final version of Triumph’s Rocket III Touring – which shows that the bike bears an almost remarkable resemblance to the Harley-Davidson Road King.
  This motorcycle was first revealed in MCN more than a year ago, and now we have exclusive photographs taken by MCN’s spy photographer on UK roads in its final tests.
  The Rocket III Touring boasts a revised riding position and a larger screen plus fold-out pillion footboards among its features.
  For further information on the features of the Triumph Rocket III Touring’s features and also how it can turn in to a V-Max killer, check out this week’s edition of MCN, available from Wednesday, August 15, 2007.
   
   
   
   
   
   
 

BWG3COY@... wrote:
         

In a message dated 9/12/2007 2:04:00 PM GMT Standard Time,
apsllp@... writes:

That said, If Triumph would get off thier cruiser kick and build another
Trophy it wouldn't matter to me if it was a 3 cylinder 900, 1200, or
anything else. I think it would sell.

Imagine: A Trophy (any size engine) with Fuel injection, Shaft Drive,
and a new easy to service airbox, Nology coils std, Possibly air
adjustable forks and an adjustible windshield. Triumph could likley take
the long distance sport touring market. This all with the existing
fairing, trunk, and bags no styling changes needed. How many of us would
start forming a line to purchase....st

Its what we've all said since the Trophy came out.

We have had polls on this list to confirm that.
Triumph always said that Tourers dont sell, well because of speed
restriction and general slowing down of Sports bike sales the Touring market is up
there. So I do wish they would get on with making one.

Handle Every Situation Like a Dog

If You cant eat it or Screw it. Piss on it and walk away.
BORDER COLLIES ROCK

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[tbsrider2000]

Believe me, that's not what any of us Rocket fans envisioned when Triumph
announced a "touring" version
of the Rocket.  Shoot, Triumph already makes that version except for the
hard bags.

 (Excess text snipped by Group Owner)

[south_texas_polar_bear]

This Rocket must come with a long lanyard option...

--- In TriumphTrophy@..., Dean Barger <deanbar@...>
wrote:
>
> No $$$ in that approach.
>    
>    
>  
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/mcn/2007/August/au
g13-19/aug1407triumphrocketiiitouringexclusivespyshots/
>    
>    
>     New bikes
>   14 August 2007 10:52
>     Here are the world's first pictures of the final version of
Triumph's Rocket III Touring – which shows that the bike bears an
almost remarkable resemblance to the Harley-Davidson Road King.
>   This motorcycle was first revealed in MCN more than a year ago,
and now we have exclusive photographs taken by MCN's spy
photographer on UK roads in its final tests.
>   The Rocket III Touring boasts a revised riding position and a
larger screen plus fold-out pillion footboards among its features.
>   For further information on the features of the Triumph Rocket
III Touring's features and also how it can turn in to a V-Max
killer, check out this week's edition of MCN, available from
Wednesday, August 15, 2007.

>    
>    
>    
>    
>    
>    
>  
>
> BWG3COY@... wrote:
>          
>
> In a message dated 9/12/2007 2:04:00 PM GMT Standard Time,
> apsllp@... writes:
>
> That said, If Triumph would get off thier cruiser kick and build

another
> Trophy it wouldn't matter to me if it was a 3 cylinder 900, 1200,
or
> anything else. I think it would sell.
>
> Imagine: A Trophy (any size engine) with Fuel injection, Shaft
Drive,
> and a new easy to service airbox, Nology coils std, Possibly air
> adjustable forks and an adjustible windshield. Triumph could
likley take
> the long distance sport touring market. This all with the existing
> fairing, trunk, and bags no styling changes needed. How many of us
would
> start forming a line to purchase....st
>
> Its what we've all said since the Trophy came out.
>
> We have had polls on this list to confirm that.
> Triumph always said that Tourers dont sell, well because of speed
> restriction and general slowing down of Sports bike sales the
Touring market is up

> there. So I do wish they would get on with making one.
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[Stef Kirk]

Robert Clark wrote:
>The differences between the 2 models are not that great. 33lbs, about
>10HP, 15Nm of torque.

Got to disagree with that. Having owned the early more powerfull Trophy 1200's and ridden the later models along with a 900 Speed Triple and the 885i Tiger
The difference in sheer stomp the 1200 has over the 900 is way more than figures on paper. The only thing the 900 has over the 1200 is mpg and the sound.

Stef
Scotland
Daytona 1200
R1100GS

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