Two ideas for improving openoffice

[q10-2]

Hello:

Here is one small suggestion for OOo:  In Writer and Calc, there are
toolbars for buttons like save, print, font size, etc.  When the user
selects which button to show up in the toolbar, he right clicks on the
toolbar, then hovers over Visible Buttons, and clicks an entry accordingly.
Here is the problem.  After you click an entry, the entire menu closes, as
if the user was done selecting/deselecting entries.  This is repetitively
strainful if someone wanted to make 10 entry selections/deslections.  Please
let the button entry menu remain on until the user clicks somewhere else
outside the menu.

A large issue:  OOo seems to lack a full statistical analysis package that
can be found in Microsoft Office.  Although it may not seem important, it is
very important to college and university undergraduate students, especially
those in the physical and biological sciences who are not yet professional
enough to be using standalone statistics packages.  I see that statistical
analysis package is listed under the Calc To-Do pages, but there has been no
further progress yet.  Please consider this feature a high priority feature,
as it will no doubt expand the OOo userbase, and make statistical analysis
more available to people who need them but aren't saavy with, or don't
require the complexity of, software like R or MatLab.

Thanks for hearing my advice.

Please reply
-q10

[Jonathon Blake]

On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 05:45, q10  wrote:

> A large issue:  OOo seems to lack a full statistical analysis package that can be found in Microsoft Office.

"Seems to" is the operative word here.
There are a couple of extensions that add statistical analysis tools to OOo.

> more available to people who need them but aren't saavy with, or don't require the complexity of, software like R or MatLab.

For anything but the most trivial type of statistical analysis,
R,Matlab, or something similar should be used, simply  in the
interests of  statistical accuracy.

Furthermore, anybody who uses a spreadsheet for statistical analysis
has just demonstrated that they are  too incompetent to be allowed to
touch  a computer for any purpose, much less be allowed to use one.

jonathon
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[Cor Nouws]

jonathon wrote (26-10-2009 23:01)
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> Furthermore, anybody who uses a spreadsheet for statistical analysis
> has just demonstrated that they are  too incompetent to be allowed to
> touch  a computer for any purpose, much less be allowed to use one.

That we never may forget 8-)

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[Mark C. Miller]

On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:01:38 +0000, jonathon wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 05:45, q10  wrote:
>
>> A large issue:  OOo seems to lack a full statistical analysis package
>> that can be found in Microsoft Office.
>
> "Seems to" is the operative word here. There are a couple of extensions
> that add statistical analysis tools to OOo.
>
Could you tell me which ones you're thinking about?  I found one that
says it adds "R" capabilities to calc, but that just doesn't sound like
what I'm looking for.


Appreciate any direction you can provide.

OBTW I have an intense fear of things mathematic, so I approach the need
to do some stats work with much trepidation.

tnx

mcm



> jonathon





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[Jonathon Blake]

On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 16:44, Mark C. Miller

> Could you tell me which ones you're thinking about?  I found one that
OOo Statistics is the obvious one.

But as I wrote earlier, anybody who uses a spreadsheet for statistical
analysis is too incompetent to be allowed to touch  a computer.  (If
you can't do your statistical analysis on a chalkboard, then you don't
understand the statistical analysis you are trying to do.)

> I found one that says it adds "R" capabilities to calc, but that just doesn't sound like
what I'm looking for.

Learn to use R without using a spreadsheet.

jonathon

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