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by Grant-4 :: Rate this Message:

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Can dvda-author convert a series of unencrypted AOB files to
individual WAV or FLAC tracks?

- Grant

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Re : Unencrypted AOB -> WAV/FLAC?

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Yes and no.
dvda-author -x (or --extract) can extract a disc or part of it to wav (do dvda-author --help or man dvda-author on *nix systems, otherwise check man page on website), but success is only guaranteed for dvda-author-made discs.
However, extraction would not just work with AOBs, as it crucially relies of some information given by IFO files.
Fab


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Sujet : [Dvd-audio-devel] Unencrypted AOB -> WAV/FLAC?

Can dvda-author convert a series of unencrypted AOB files to
individual WAV or FLAC tracks?

- Grant


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Re: Re : Unencrypted AOB -> WAV/FLAC?

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> Yes and no.
> dvda-author -x (or --extract) can extract a disc or part of it to wav (do
> dvda-author --help or man dvda-author on *nix systems, otherwise check man
> page on website), but success is only guaranteed for dvda-author-made discs.
> However, extraction would not just work with AOBs, as it crucially relies of
> some information given by IFO files.
> Fab

Thanks Fab, that sounds perfect.  Does it extract a 5.1 mix into
separate WAV files?  I'm not sure if WAV can handle more than 2
channels.

Now I've just got to get a decent version installed on Gentoo.  The
latest version in portage is called 20050703 and it doesn't seem to
--extract.

- Grant


> Can dvda-author convert a series of unencrypted AOB files to
>
> individual WAV or FLAC tracks?
>
>
>
> - Grant

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Re : [Unencrypted AOB -> WAV/FLAC?

by fabrni :: Rate this Message:

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Grant,
at present dvda-author only encrypts/decrypts (single/multi-channel) wav files. You can create/split a multichannel wav file from/to separate stereo or mono wav files with audacity or other tools.
Wrt gentoo, my advice would be to build from source, unless you can install on this distro using rpm binaries? The source package contains pretty everything that is required to build, once you have updated autotools (see my post on building requirements).
Please keep me informed on this building issue.
Best, Fab




Thanks Fab, that sounds perfect. Does it extract a 5.1 mix into
separate WAV files? I'm not sure if WAV can handle more than 2
channels.

Now I've just got to get a decent version installed on Gentoo. The
latest version in portage is called 20050703 and it doesn't seem to
--extract.

- Grant



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Re: Re : [Unencrypted AOB -> WAV/FLAC?

by Kai-Uwe Behrmann :: Rate this Message:

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Am 08.05.09, 08:45 -0400 schrieb fabrni@...:
> Wrt gentoo, my advice would be to build from source, unless you can install on this distro using rpm binaries? The source package contains pretty everything that is required to build, once you have updated autotools (see my post on building requirements).

Wy are autotools needed? You have configure and all Makefile.in's already
included in the dvda-author-09.03.tar.bz2 tar ball. So the scripts run on
their own without any external reference except the standard posix
environment, e.g. /bin/sh, sed ...
Usually it is the part of the final configure script to resolve
dependencies using pkg-config or the header and symbol checks that are
provided by autotools.

The autotool build process is typical as follows:
Write high level tests for libraries, headers and environment in
configure.ac and
describe the basic object dependencies in Makefile.am's
-> conversion to configure + Makefile.in's (possibly some more) with
    autotools
   -> distribute all those files together with the source tree (done)
---- on the build host ----
    -> run configure (ideally autodetecting what is missed and issuing a
       appropriate message) and generate on success the final Makefile's
      -> run make && make install

So my guess is that the configure.ac tests are not properly written or
incomplete and would be good to get debugged or completed.

Knowing of all dependencies to build the package would be of good help
befor the next steps.


Btw. the gui builds like a charm (after a> sed s%moc-qt4%moc% # here).
Thanks.

kind regards
Kai-Uwe

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Re : Re : [Unencrypted AOB -> WAV/FLAC?

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Kai-Uwe, you're theoretically correct and practically wrong.

Normally, the package should build OK without autotools as, yes, configure, libtool and make scripts are there.

However, there are (rare) cases of issues caused by the notoriously whimsical niceties of the autotools themselves, notably libtool.

In this case, the included autogen script is there to put things right, which requires a recent version of the autotools.

Wrt dependencies, the full package is all-inclusive (this is why I did a trimmed-down dvda-author-core package for porting 08-07 to freebsd without code duplication of auxiliary tools).
The only known external dependency is libiberty.a, which normally should be there if you built gcc from source or installed binutils-dev, and there is always the option to circumvent that by configuring with
--enable-glibc

BTW, yes, I've pointed a bug in configure.ac: distribution-installed sox libs should not be used, as apparently only the libs built from source work on my kubuntu 09.04 platform. Intriguing, I still wonder why, any hint will be appreciated.

This issue can be circumvented by configuring with --enable-sox-build, however.

Fab

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Am 08.05.09, 08:45 -0400 schrieb fabrni@...:
> Wrt gentoo, my advice would be to build from source, unless you can install on
this distro using rpm binaries? The source package contains pretty everything
that is required to build, once you have updated autotools (see my post on
building requirements).

Wy are autotools needed? You have configure and all Makefile.in's already
included in the dvda-author-09.03.tar.bz2 tar ball. So the scripts run on
their own without any external reference except the standard posix
environment, e.g. /bin/sh, sed ...
Usually it is the part of the final configure script to resolve
dependencies using pkg-config or the header and symbol checks that are
provided by autotools.

The autotool build process is typical as follows:
Write high level tests for libraries, headers and environment in
configure.ac and
describe the basic object dependencies in Makefile.am's
-> conversion to configure + Makefile.in's (possibly some more) with
autotools
-> distribute all those files together with the source tree (done)
---- on the build host ----
-> run co nfigure (ideally autodetecting what is missed and issuing a
appropriate message) and generate on success the final Makefile's
-> run make && make install

So my guess is that the configure.ac tests are not properly written or
incomplete and would be good to get debugged or completed.

Knowing of all dependencies to build the package would be of good help
befor the next steps.


Btw. the gui builds like a charm (after a> sed s%moc-qt4%moc% # here).
Thanks.

kind regards
Kai-Uwe

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Re: Re : [Unencrypted AOB -> WAV/FLAC?

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> Grant,
>
> at present dvda-author only encrypts/decrypts (single/multi-channel) wav
> files. You can create/split a multichannel wav file from/to separate stereo
> or mono wav files with audacity or other tools.

I'm sorry but I'm not sure I understand.  Please allow me to ask a few
specific questions.  If I'm starting with a series of unencrypted
AOB/IFO files...

1. ... can dvda-author produce a single WAV file containing a stereo mix?

2. ... can dvda-author produce a single WAV file containing a 5.1 mix?

3. ... can dvda-author produce a series of WAV files which are split
by track/song?

> Wrt gentoo, my advice would be to build from source, unless you can install
> on this distro using rpm binaries? The source package contains pretty
> everything that is required to build, once you have updated autotools (see
> my post on building requirements).
>
> Please keep me informed on this building issue.
>
> Best, Fab

I found an unofficial ebuild for Gentoo called dvda-author-cvs which
pulls in the latest.  I installed dvda-author that way, but there are
no options such as man, --help, or --extract.  It only installs:

/usr/bin/dvda-author
README.bz2
CHANGES.bz2

I see here that there are several different tools available:

http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=131997

Maybe I'm installing the wrong one?  I also tried running the latest
windows version via wine, but no luck.  Possibly a 64-bit issue.

- Grant


> Thanks Fab, that sounds perfect.  Does it extract a 5.1 mix into
>
> separate WAV files?  I'm not sure if WAV can handle more than 2
>
> channels.
>
>
>
> Now I've just got to get a decent version installed on Gentoo.  The
>
> latest version in portage is called 20050703 and it doesn't seem to
>
> --extract.
>
>
>
> - Grant

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Re : Re : [Unencrypted AOB -> WAV/FLAC?

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I'm sorry but I'm not sure I understand.  Please allow me to ask a few
specific questions. If I'm starting with a series of unencrypted
AOB/IFO files...

1. ... can dvda-author produce a single WAV file containing a stereo mix?

> Yes, provided the input directory is structured like a disc (=complete with IFOs and AOBs)

2. ... can dvda-author produce a single WAV file containing a 5.1 mix?

> Yes again.


3. ... can dvda-author produce a series of WAV files which are split
by track/song?

> No, you have to import the multichannel WAV file using audacity or like software
then split it by hand. This could be a new feature to be added to upcoming versions.

Maybe I'm installing the wrong one? I also tried running the latest
windows version via wine, but no luck. Possibly a 64-bit issue.

> Install from the cource code available here:

http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=131997&package_id=144979

use:
 dvda-author-09.03 src > dvda-author-09.03.tar.bz2 to build from source, or if rpm works on gentoo
dvda-author-09.03 linux > dvda-author-09.03.i386.rpm

Fab


- Grant


> Thanks Fab, that sounds perfect. Does it extract a 5.1 mix into
>
> separate WAV files? I'm not sure if WAV can handle more than 2
>
> channels.
>
>
>
> Now I've just got to get a decent version installed on Gentoo. The
>
> latest version in portage is called 20050703 and it doesn't seem to
>
> --extract.
>
>
>
> - Grant

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Re: Re : Re : [Unencrypted AOB -> WAV/FLAC?

by Kai-Uwe Behrmann :: Rate this Message:

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Am 08.05.09, 09:41 -0400 schrieb fabrni@...:
> Kai-Uwe, you're theoretically correct and practically wrong.

:-)

> Normally, the package should build OK without autotools as, yes, configure, libtool and make scripts are there.
>
> However, there are (rare) cases of issues caused by the notoriously whimsical niceties of the autotools themselves, notably libtool.
>
> In this case, the included autogen script is there to put things right, which requires a recent version of the autotools.

There is complicated stuff used?

> Wrt dependencies, the full package is all-inclusive (this is why I did a trimmed-down dvda-author-core package for porting 08-07 to freebsd without code duplication of auxiliary tools).
> The only known external dependency is libiberty.a, which normally should be there if you built gcc from source or installed binutils-dev, and there is always the option to circumvent that by configuring with
> --enable-glibc

Ah, I use now --enable-glibc and make does no more ask for libiberty.a,
which is not present here. Thanks.

> BTW, yes, I've pointed a bug in configure.ac: distribution-installed sox libs should not be used, as apparently only the libs built from source work on my kubuntu 09.04 platform. Intriguing, I still wonder why, any hint will be appreciated.
>
> This issue can be circumvented by configuring with --enable-sox-build, however.

This is triggered here automatically.

FFMPEG is used by libsoxconvert but somehow it gets not compiled in ...
dvda-author-09.03/libsoxconvert/sox.pc.in:10 added @FFMPEG_LIBS@. But
sox.pc seems not been asked to use the -lavcodec link flag?

Sorry, thats not final.


kind regards
Kai-Uwe

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Re: Re : Re : [Unencrypted AOB -> WAV/FLAC?

by Kai-Uwe Behrmann :: Rate this Message:

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Am 08.05.09, 17:27 +0200 schrieb Kai-Uwe Behrmann:
> FFMPEG is used by libsoxconvert but somehow it gets not compiled in ...
> dvda-author-09.03/libsoxconvert/sox.pc.in:10 added

-lz @FFMPEG_LIBS@

> But sox.pc seems not been asked to use the -lavcodec link flag?

Adding the following line to configure.ac:107 helped with sox.pc
+        src_dir="`(cd $srcdir; pwd)`"
+        SOX_LIB="$src_dir/libsoxconvert/src/libsoxconvert.a $src_dir/libsoxconvert/libsox/libsox.a $src_dir/libsoxconvert/libgsm/libgsm.a $src_dir/libsoxconvert/lpc10/liblpc10.a $src_dir/libsoxconvert/libsox/libsfx.a `PKG_CONFIG_PATH=$srcdir/libsoxconvert/ pkg-config --libs sox | sed 's/-lsox // ; s/-lsfx //'`"


As well I had to disable flac and ogg for libsoxconvert.

In the end I obtained a dvda executeable  holali :-)

kind regards
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Re: Re : Re : [Unencrypted AOB -> WAV/FLAC?

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Sorry for top posting but this email was full of line breaks.  Hard to
reply properly.

A Gentoo guy is trying to update the version of dvd-author in portage
to the latest but he's having problems with sox.  A brief description
is here:

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=250146

If you wouldn't mind posting info here I would be happy to update the bug.

Thanks,
Grant


> I'm sorry but I'm not sure I understand.  Please allow me to ask a few
>
> specific questions.  If I'm starting with a series of unencrypted
>
> AOB/IFO files...
>
>
>
> 1. ... can dvda-author produce a single WAV file containing a stereo mix?
>
>
>
>> Yes, provided the input directory is structured like a disc (=complete
>> with IFOs and AOBs)
>
>
>
> 2. ... can dvda-author produce a single WAV file containing a 5.1 mix?
>
>
>
>> Yes again.
>
>
>
>
>
> 3. ... can dvda-author produce a series of WAV files which are split
>
> by track/song?
>
>
>
>> No, you have to import the multichannel WAV file using audacity or like
>> software
>
> then split it by hand. This could be a new feature to be added to upcoming
> versions.
>
>
>
> Maybe I'm installing the wrong one?  I also tried running the latest
>
> windows version via wine, but no luck.  Possibly a 64-bit issue.
>
>
>
>> Install from the cource code available here:
>
>
>
> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=131997&package_id=144979
>
>
>
> use:
>
>  dvda-author-09.03 src > dvda-author-09.03.tar.bz2 to build from source, or
> if rpm works on gentoo
>
>  dvda-author-09.03 linux > dvda-author-09.03.i386.rpm
>
>
>
> Fab
>
>
>
>
>
> - Grant
>
>
>
>
>
>> Thanks Fab, that sounds perfect.  Does it extract a 5.1 mix into
>
>>
>
>> separate WAV files?  I'm not sure if WAV can handle more than 2
>
>>
>
>> channels.
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> Now I've just got to get a decent version installed on Gentoo.  The
>
>>
>
>> latest version in portage is called 20050703 and it doesn't seem to
>
>>
>
>> --extract.
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> - Grant

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