Upcoming OpenJDK infrastructure projects

[Mark Reinhold]

http://blogs.sun.com/mr/entry/under_construction

Comments welcome!

- Mark

[dfabulich]

I'm not sure if this request is in-scope for "OpenJDK infrastructure
projects", but I'd like to pipe up in favor of simplifying the
Windows build experience.

Specifically...

1) Update the build to work with Visual C++ 2005 Express, the free
(no-charge) version of the Visual Studio C++ compiler.

The fix isn't too hard, but it requires a bit of figuring:
http://bugs.sun.com/view_bug.do?bug_id=6523947

2) Provide support for building under MSYS make/shell, perhaps instead of
Cygwin.

Cygwin make doesn't handle paths of the form "c:/code/openjdk" and has
stated that they intend not to; they recommend using the MinGW MSYS make
instead of Cygwin make for these purposes.

http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2006-07/msg00671.html

The Mozilla project updated their Cygwin-only build to work under MSYS,
and now offer a convenient installer to set the whole thing up.
Something like that for OpenJDK would be fantastic, though it's just a
dream at this point.  :-)

http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Windows_Build_Prerequisites

(Note that I DON'T mean that we should support building with MinGW gcc;
that'd be cool, but IMO it's not necessary to build Windows software using
a Free-as-in-speech compiler; using a free-as-in-beer compiler is fine for
non-free platforms.)

I'd hoped to begin work on these myself at some point, though I'm pretty
busy yet. :-(

-Dan

[cowwoc]

Hi Dan,

I will happily help you guys out if you run into any problems getting Manifests working with OpenJDK. While we're on the topic, why is Sun jumping to VisualStudio 2005 Express when the 2008 is out? As far as I know, there are no new surprises in 2008 like the manifests and 64-bit support is far better than in 2005. I recommend you skip 2005 and jump directly to the 2008 version.

Gili

dfabulich wrote:

I'm not sure if this request is in-scope for "OpenJDK infrastructure
projects", but I'd like to pipe up in favor of simplifying the
Windows build experience.

Specifically...

1) Update the build to work with Visual C++ 2005 Express, the free
(no-charge) version of the Visual Studio C++ compiler.

The fix isn't too hard, but it requires a bit of figuring:
http://bugs.sun.com/view_bug.do?bug_id=6523947

2) Provide support for building under MSYS make/shell, perhaps instead of
Cygwin.

Cygwin make doesn't handle paths of the form "c:/code/openjdk" and has
stated that they intend not to; they recommend using the MinGW MSYS make
instead of Cygwin make for these purposes.

http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2006-07/msg00671.html

The Mozilla project updated their Cygwin-only build to work under MSYS,
and now offer a convenient installer to set the whole thing up.
Something like that for OpenJDK would be fantastic, though it's just a
dream at this point.  :-)

http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Windows_Build_Prerequisites

(Note that I DON'T mean that we should support building with MinGW gcc;
that'd be cool, but IMO it's not necessary to build Windows software using
a Free-as-in-speech compiler; using a free-as-in-beer compiler is fine for
non-free platforms.)

I'd hoped to begin work on these myself at some point, though I'm pretty
busy yet. :-(

-Dan

[Phil Race]

cowwoc wrote:
> Hi Dan,
>
> I will happily help you guys out if you run into any problems getting
> Manifests working with OpenJDK. While we're on the topic, why is Sun jumping
> to VisualStudio 2005 Express when the 2008 is out? As far as I know, there
> are no new surprises in 2008 like the manifests and 64-bit support is far
> better than in 2005. I recommend you skip 2005 and jump directly to the 2008
> version.
>  

You are responding to a  thread concluded in 2007(!), so you are way out
of date.
Dan's comment wasn't the plan anyway. The plan is to move to VS 2008,
and skip 2005.

-phil.

[cowwoc]

Sounds good, thanks.

Gili

Phil Race wrote:

cowwoc wrote:
> Hi Dan,
>
> I will happily help you guys out if you run into any problems getting
> Manifests working with OpenJDK. While we're on the topic, why is Sun jumping
> to VisualStudio 2005 Express when the 2008 is out? As far as I know, there
> are no new surprises in 2008 like the manifests and 64-bit support is far
> better than in 2005. I recommend you skip 2005 and jump directly to the 2008
> version.
>  

You are responding to a  thread concluded in 2007(!), so you are way out
of date.
Dan's comment wasn't the plan anyway. The plan is to move to VS 2008,
and skip 2005.

-phil.