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Update Kernel Driver Without a Reboot

by Ping@LinuxWacom :: Rate this Message:

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Hi all,

I learnt the "Rebootless Linux Kernel Update" technology from Ksplice (www.ksplice.com) ) at one of the technical conferences I attended recently.  I wonder if it is worth the effort to incorporate the technology into linuxwacom project or not.  I know the technology is mainly for security patches.  Maybe some of you who would like to use Wacom devices in a non-stop mode prefer update the driver without rebooting the system.  Please share your idea with me (directly) so I know if "Update Without a Reboot" is something linuxwacom should consider or not.

Thank you for any feedback you may offer in advance.

Ping

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Re: Update Kernel Driver Without a Reboot

by Jim Henderson-4 :: Rate this Message:

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On Sun, 27 Sep 2009 20:58:22 -0700, Ping wrote:

> Maybe some of you who would like to use Wacom devices in a non-stop mode
> prefer update the driver without rebooting the system.

I'm not sure this is necessary; the Wacom driver is a kernel module, so
updating the driver doesn't need a system reboot, you just unload the old
module and load the new one.  If the X driver has to be updated, you
restart the X server.

I guess I'm not seeing why a reboot should be necessary.

Jim
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Re: Update Kernel Driver Without a Reboot

by Kory Prince :: Rate this Message:

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I concur with Jim. And now, with some of the major distros going towards
the HAL approach, even the x-server does not need to be restarted. Just
the unload/load of the new module.

My other thought on this is that it really doesn't seem worth the
effort. In almost any case, the wacom device isn't going to be attached
to a machine that is dependent on uptime (since many graphics
applications can use a lot of cpu, affecting server load.)
I can't see the need to use your time developing that when you could use
the time to developed more needed features.
Thanks,
Kory


On Sun, 2009-09-27 at 20:58 -0700, Ping wrote:

>
> Hi all,
>
> I learnt the "Rebootless Linux Kernel Update" technology from Ksplice
> (www.ksplice.com) ) at one of the technical conferences I attended
> recently.  I wonder if it is worth the effort to incorporate the
> technology into linuxwacom project or not.  I know the technology is
> mainly for security patches.  Maybe some of you who would like to use
> Wacom devices in a non-stop mode prefer update the driver without
> rebooting the system.  Please share your idea with me (directly) so I
> know if "Update Without a Reboot" is something linuxwacom should
> consider or not.
>
> Thank you for any feedback you may offer in advance.
>
> Ping


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Re: Update Kernel Driver Without a Reboot

by Ping@LinuxWacom :: Rate this Message:

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This case is closed.  We will not spend any more time on the topic.  Thank you to those who replied to me and who shared their thoughts with the group.  Your participation is truely appreciated.
 
Ping
 
On Sun, 2009-09-27 at 20:58 -0700, Ping wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I learnt the "Rebootless Linux Kernel Update" technology from Ksplice
> (www.ksplice.com) ) at one of the technical conferences I attended
> recently.  I wonder if it is worth the effort to incorporate the
> technology into linuxwacom project or not.  I know the technology is
> mainly for security patches.  Maybe some of you who would like to use
> Wacom devices in a non-stop mode prefer update the driver without
> rebooting the system.  Please share your idea with me (directly) so I
> know if "Update Without a Reboot" is something linuxwacom should
> consider or not.
>
> Thank you for any feedback you may offer in advance.
>
> Ping

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Re: Update Kernel Driver Without a Reboot

by Kory Prince :: Rate this Message:

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Can we assume that this is not something you will be working on then?
Thanks,
Kory

On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 09:33 -0700, Ping wrote:
> This case is closed.  We will not spend any more time on the topic.
> Thank you to those who replied to me and who shared their thoughts
> with the group.  Your participation is truely appreciated.   Ping


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Re: Update Kernel Driver Without a Reboot

by Ping@LinuxWacom :: Rate this Message:

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Hi Kory,
 
Sorry for not making my point clear.  I should say "the case is dismissed".  I will not spend any time on this topic, which includes working on it.
 
Ping
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Kory Prince <korylprince@...> wrote:
Can we assume that this is not something you will be working on then?
Thanks,
Kory

On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 09:33 -0700, Ping wrote:
> This case is closed.  We will not spend any more time on the topic.
> Thank you to those who replied to me and who shared their thoughts
> with the group.  Your participation is truely appreciated.   Ping



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