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Updated Insteon information.
by George Farris-4
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I'd like to work on the Insteon information a bit and maybe get it up
onto the wiki. With this in mind can someone confirm this is the case for each of these modules. Also please add any information you see fit. Some modules can be used as a IPLL or IPLD with the difference being that an IPLD device will never show up in Misterhouse with an option to "Link to Interface". Regardless of choice, Misterhouse will be able to control the device. In other words, you can turn an IPLD or an IPLL device on or off from MH. LampLinc 2456D3 IPLD ApplianceLinc 2456S3 IPLD OutletLinc 2473S IPLL or IPLD for no MH linking SwitchLinc 2476(D,S) IPLL or IPLD for no MH linking KeypadLinc 2486(D,S) IPLL In-LineLinc 2475D IPLD IO Linc 2450 IPLL Motion Sensor 2420M IPLL not sure about this one RemoteLinc 2440 IPLL Cheers George ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference ________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from this list, go to: http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=1365 |
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Re: Updated Insteon information.
by Marc MERLIN-7
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On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 09:42:18AM -0800, George Farris wrote:
> I'd like to work on the Insteon information a bit and maybe get it up > onto the wiki. With this in mind can someone confirm this is the case > for each of these modules. Also please add any information you see fit. > > Some modules can be used as a IPLL or IPLD with the difference being > that an IPLD device will never show up in Misterhouse with an option to > "Link to Interface". Regardless of choice, Misterhouse will be able to > control the device. In other words, you can turn an IPLD or an IPLL > device on or off from MH. > > > LampLinc 2456D3 IPLD > ApplianceLinc 2456S3 IPLD > OutletLinc 2473S IPLL or IPLD for no MH linking > SwitchLinc 2476(D,S) IPLL or IPLD for no MH linking > KeypadLinc 2486(D,S) IPLL > In-LineLinc 2475D IPLD > IO Linc 2450 IPLL > Motion Sensor 2420M IPLL not sure about this one > RemoteLinc 2440 IPLL I would wait for Gregg to chine in on this, since he's our resident expert on the matter. In principle I agree with waht you wrote although I think an ApplianceLinc could be an IPLL since it has local control, no? I think http://misterhouse.wikispaces.com/Insteon+Devices+-+Quirks+and+Hints#toc9 says motion sensors are IPLDs because they are not listening most of the time to save on batteries, and therefore can't be queried. Gregg is also reworking all this logic as it has grown a bit beyond its original design, which kind of explains resulting confusion. Marc -- "A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in" - A.S.R. Microsoft is to operating systems & security .... .... what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference ________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from this list, go to: http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=1365 |
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Re: Updated Insteon information.
by George Farris-4
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On Mon, 2009-11-02 at 11:03 -0800, Marc MERLIN wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 09:42:18AM -0800, George Farris wrote: > > I'd like to work on the Insteon information a bit and maybe get it up > > onto the wiki. With this in mind can someone confirm this is the case > > for each of these modules. Also please add any information you see fit. > > > > Some modules can be used as a IPLL or IPLD with the difference being > > that an IPLD device will never show up in Misterhouse with an option to > > "Link to Interface". Regardless of choice, Misterhouse will be able to > > control the device. In other words, you can turn an IPLD or an IPLL > > device on or off from MH. > > > > > > LampLinc 2456D3 IPLD > > ApplianceLinc 2456S3 IPLD > > OutletLinc 2473S IPLL or IPLD for no MH linking > > SwitchLinc 2476(D,S) IPLL or IPLD for no MH linking > > KeypadLinc 2486(D,S) IPLL > > In-LineLinc 2475D IPLD > > IO Linc 2450 IPLL > > Motion Sensor 2420M IPLL not sure about this one > > RemoteLinc 2440 IPLL > > I would wait for Gregg to chine in on this, since he's our resident expert > on the matter. > > In principle I agree with waht you wrote although I think an ApplianceLinc > could be an IPLL since it has local control, no? > I think the ApplianceLinc is like the LampLinc, it doesn't have a button to locally control the device. The OutletLinc does though. > I think > http://misterhouse.wikispaces.com/Insteon+Devices+-+Quirks+and+Hints#toc9 > says motion sensors are IPLDs because they are not listening most of the > time to save on batteries, and therefore can't be queried. > Right so it should be an IPLD. > Gregg is also reworking all this logic as it has grown a bit beyond its > original design, which kind of explains resulting confusion. Thanks, Hopefully we'll hear from Gregg. Cheers George ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference ________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from this list, go to: http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=1365 |
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Re: Updated Insteon information.
by Gregg Liming
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Marc MERLIN wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 09:42:18AM -0800, George Farris wrote: >> I'd like to work on the Insteon information a bit and maybe get it up >> onto the wiki. With this in mind can someone confirm this is the case >> for each of these modules. Also please add any information you see fit. >> >> Some modules can be used as a IPLL or IPLD with the difference being >> that an IPLD device will never show up in Misterhouse with an option to >> "Link to Interface". Regardless of choice, Misterhouse will be able to >> control the device. In other words, you can turn an IPLD or an IPLL >> device on or off from MH. >> >> >> LampLinc 2456D3 IPLD >> ApplianceLinc 2456S3 IPLD >> OutletLinc 2473S IPLL or IPLD for no MH linking >> SwitchLinc 2476(D,S) IPLL or IPLD for no MH linking >> KeypadLinc 2486(D,S) IPLL >> In-LineLinc 2475D IPLD >> IO Linc 2450 IPLL >> Motion Sensor 2420M IPLL not sure about this one >> RemoteLinc 2440 IPLL > > I would wait for Gregg to chine in on this, since he's our resident expert > on the matter. > > In principle I agree with waht you wrote although I think an ApplianceLinc > could be an IPLL since it has local control, no? Actually, I no longer have/use IPLD and IPLL devices since they are now explicitly specified (e.g., INSTEON_KEYPADLINC, INSTEON_MOTIONSENSOR). Those changes only reside in my local at the moment though. The basic rule of thumb in determining whether to use an IPLL vice IPLD is that any device that is capable of acting as an insteon controller should be defined as an IPLL. Anything with a button that you click/press to control something is a controller. Whether the ApplianceLinc or other devices have this ability or not would depend upon the docs that come w/ the device. If the docs suggest that the device can be linked to another device such that it controls it, then it can definitely be a controller. Things like "local control", however, might not be reportable via a link back to the PLM. The only thing that I can suggest is to simply try it. > I think > http://misterhouse.wikispaces.com/Insteon+Devices+-+Quirks+and+Hints#toc9 > says motion sensors are IPLDs because they are not listening most of the > time to save on batteries, and therefore can't be queried. Yes--this is the one exception to the above explanation as clearly the motion sensor is a controller. I will likely be rethinking this--especially since it has it's own class in the refactored code. And, its more likely that some special logic can account for its normal deafness. I don't mind any updates to the wiki docs on the subject of IPLL or IPLD. Hopefully, it won't matter soon and all discussion of IPLL and IPLD can be ripped out. Gregg ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference ________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from this list, go to: http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=1365 |
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Re: Updated Insteon information.
by Marc MERLIN-7
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On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 11:19:21AM -0800, George Farris wrote:
> I don't mind any updates to the wiki docs on the subject of IPLL or > IPLD. Hopefully, it won't matter soon and all discussion of IPLL and > IPLD can be ripped out. Done: http://misterhouse.wikispaces.com/Insteon#toc16 Marc -- "A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in" - A.S.R. Microsoft is to operating systems & security .... .... what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference ________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from this list, go to: http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=1365 |
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Re: Updated Insteon information.
by George Farris-4
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On Mon, 2009-11-02 at 12:24 -0800, Marc MERLIN wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 02, 2009 at 11:19:21AM -0800, George Farris wrote: > > I don't mind any updates to the wiki docs on the subject of IPLL or > > IPLD. Hopefully, it won't matter soon and all discussion of IPLL and > > IPLD can be ripped out. > > Done: > http://misterhouse.wikispaces.com/Insteon#toc16 > > Marc Okay I also added a note about "Link to Interface" only appearing if you define your item as an IPLL device. George ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Come build with us! The BlackBerry(R) Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9 - 12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconference ________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from this list, go to: http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=1365 |
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