Upgrading from KDE 3.4 to 3.54 in Suse 9.3 (Suse go kaBOOM)

[Genny-3]

(invalid MIME type problem or QT 3.3.6 install went horribly wrong?)

Hello,

I finally managed to upgrade from KDE 3.4 to 3.5.4 in Suse 9.3 for the first
time after a year of trying, or so I thought.  I am not a newbie to linux,
but I don't know more then the basics.  I am much more experienced in
windows/ms-dos, so I am sure half my problems are caused by the way I
approach interacting with an operating system.  I have tried all sorts of
methods, and walk-throughs.  YOU never seemed to work for me, and the KDE
Konstruct had disastrous results when I tried it last week.  SMART seems to
be the only route I can make work.

So, how did I start?  I used kget to grab every rpm from the YOU repository
for suse 9.3, I arranged them in a directory, and I followed the install
directions on the KDE website.  First installing QT, etc.

When I came to installing kde3-base I received a small error, but everything
still looked like it was working.

# smart install kdebase*.rpm
Updating cache...               ########################################
[100%]

Computing transaction...

Upgrading packages (6):
  kdebase3-3.5.4-58.1@i586               kdebase3-nsplugin-3.5.4-58.1@i586
  kdebase3-kdm-3.5.4-58.1@i586           kdebase3-samba-3.5.4-58.1@i586
  kdebase3-ksysguardd-3.5.4-58.1@i586    kdebase3-session-3.5.4-58.1@i586

Installing packages (2):
  kdebase3-devel-3.5.4-58.1@i586         kdebase3-extra-3.5.4-58.1@i586

29.3MB of package files are needed. 14.1MB will be used.

Confirm changes? (Y/n): y

Committing transaction...
Preparing...                    ######################################## [  
0%]
   1:Installing kdebase3-sess.. ######################################## [  
7%]
   2:Cleaning kdebase3-session  ######################################## [
14%]
   3:Installing kdebase3        ######################################## [
21%]
Output from kdebase3-3.5.4-58.1@i586:
Starting SuSEconfig, the SuSE Configuration Tool...
Running module permissions only
Reading /etc/sysconfig and updating the system...
Executing /sbin/conf.d/SuSEconfig.permissions...
Checking permissions and ownerships - using the permissions files
        /etc/permissions.d/apache2
        /etc/permissions.d/cups-client
        /etc/permissions.d/mailman
        /etc/permissions.d/postfix
        /etc/permissions.d/squid
        /etc/permissions.d/susehelp
        /etc/permissions.d/tetex
        /etc/permissions
        /etc/permissions.easy
        /etc/permissions.local
setting /opt/kde3/bin/khc_indexbuilder to root:man 2755. (wrong permissions
0755)
Finished.
   4:Cleaning kdebase3          ######################################## [
28%]
Output from kdebase3-kdm-3.5.4-58.1@i586:
warning: /opt/kde3/share/config/kdm/kdmrc saved
as /opt/kde3/share/config/kdm/kdmrc.rpmsave
   5:Installing kdebase3-kdm    ######################################## [
35%]
Information: reading current kdmrc /opt/kde3/share/config/kdm/kdmrc (from kde
>= 2.2.x)
Information: current kdmrc is from kde >= 3.1 (config version 2.3)
   6:Cleaning kdebase3-kdm      ######################################## [
42%]
   7:Installing kdebase3-samba  ######################################## [
50%]
   8:Cleaning kdebase3-samba    ######################################## [
57%]
   9:Installing kdebase3-ksys.. ######################################## [
64%]
  10:Cleaning kdebase3-ksysgu.. ######################################## [
71%]
  11:Installing kdebase3-nspl.. ######################################## [
78%]
  12:Cleaning kdebase3-nsplugin ######################################## [
85%]
  13:Installing kdebase3-extra  ######################################## [
92%]
  14:Installing kdebase3-devel  ########################################
[100%]

Saving cache...

# rpm -q kdebase3
kdebase3-3.5.4-58.1


My question here is, did it really work?  Is it safe to reboot my
computer/proceed with installing the rest of the packages?  What was the
permissions and ownerships error?

I then proceded to install the rest of the packages, only running into a
problem with db42 -- it wanted db41 instead.  Everything looked great, but i
hade some MIME errors when I opened anything from the "new" KDE.   So I
decided the system most likely needed a reset.

Everything with the reset went great as well. Everything was and still is
running so much faster, and my i add, WOW, KATE is so much better now.

But, i soon noticed errors with programs that i had before the upgrade --
Kopete 0.12, Firefox, opera..  I haven't dared venture any further into my
software titles.

When I tried to reinstall Opera (web browser) I got this error:
File '/opt/kde3/share/applications/kde/knights.desktop' contains invalid MIME
type 'application/x-chess-pgn,Application' that contains invalid characters

Firefox has something similar when I tried to run it.

Is this normal? I would really appreciate it if someone could point me in the
right direction to getting my MIME types fixed :(

I see these errors in console when i try to install the programs -- because
they wouldn't run i was trying to reinstall them.

I tried fixing the error in knights.desktop -- though nothing was listed under
mime-types -- and when i go to close the properties dialog box, the konquer
window that i had used to open the file crashes.

Should I simply delete that file?  since i never ever used that program I have
uninstalled it.

Everytime i close a program - new or old it crashes spewing out:

CODE
Using host libthread_db library "/lib/tls/libthread_db.so.1".
[Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
[New Thread 1096339648 (LWP 19655)]
[KCrash handler]
#9  0x41db6453 in scim::TransactionReader::get_data_type ()
   from /usr/lib/libscim-1.0.so.6
#10 0x41db6490 in scim::Transaction::get_data_type ()
   from /usr/lib/libscim-1.0.so.6
#11 0x41cfcc4e in scim::QScimInputContext::panel_send_request ()
   from /usr/lib/qt3/plugins/inputmethods/libqscim.so
#12 0x41cfd12e in scim::QScimInputContext::~QScimInputContext ()
   from /usr/lib/qt3/plugins/inputmethods/libqscim.so
#13 0x40896779 in QObject::~QObject () from /usr/lib/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#14 0x407dfbf0 in QInputContext::~QInputContext ()
   from /usr/lib/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#15 0x41ce5714 in ~QMultiInputContext (this=0x81d19c8) at qintdict.h:56
#16 0x407f883c in QWidget::destroyInputContext ()
   from /usr/lib/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#17 0x407fe1a3 in QWidget::destroy () from /usr/lib/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#18 0x408ce216 in QWidget::~QWidget () from /usr/lib/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#19 0x40996281 in QMainWindow::~QMainWindow ()
   from /usr/lib/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#20 0x4126ffe0 in KMainWindow::~KMainWindow ()
from /opt/kde3/lib/libkdeui.so.4
#21 0x4182809f in Konsole::~Konsole ()
from /opt/kde3/lib/libkdeinit_konsole.so
#22 0x4089364c in QObject::event () from /usr/lib/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#23 0x408c8ebc in QWidget::event () from /usr/lib/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#24 0x40994512 in QMainWindow::event () from /usr/lib/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#25 0x4082f67f in QApplication::internalNotify ()
   from /usr/lib/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#26 0x40831263 in QApplication::notify () from /usr/lib/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#27 0x40572e81 in KApplication::notify () from /opt/kde3/lib/libkdecore.so.4
#28 0x408304c0 in QApplication::sendPostedEvents ()
   from /usr/lib/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#29 0x40847494 in QEventLoop::enterLoop () from /usr/lib/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#30 0x40847286 in QEventLoop::exec () from /usr/lib/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#31 0x4083112f in QApplication::exec () from /usr/lib/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#32 0x41825b6c in kdemain () from /opt/kde3/lib/libkdeinit_konsole.so
#33 0x40d21564 in kdeinitmain () from /opt/kde3/lib/kde3/konsole.so
#34 0x0804eb7e in launch ()
#35 0x0804f2cb in handle_launcher_request ()
#36 0x0804f859 in handle_requests ()
#37 0x080501f9 in main ()

I assume that means the root of the problem is with my QT installation. Any
suggestions? I tried reinstalling QT3, and there was no change at all.

I would appreciate any advice you could send me towards fixing this problem :
(I was soo happy to of finely achieved upgrading KDE.

Thank you in advance, and I analogise if this seems broken and incongruent,
but I have spent 7 hours installing KDE and 5 more hours trying to fix it and
I made these posts on a forum as I went along.

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[Torsten Rahn]

Hi Genny,

On 14.09.2006 03:56, Genny wrote:
> My question here is, did it really work?  Is it safe to reboot my
> computer/proceed with installing the rest of the packages?  What was the
> permissions and ownerships error?

I have no experience with Smart but it looks ok to me. I would interprete the
wrong permissions to have been fixed.

> When I tried to reinstall Opera (web browser) I got this error:
> File '/opt/kde3/share/applications/kde/knights.desktop' contains invalid
> MIME type 'application/x-chess-pgn,Application' that contains invalid
> character

Did you try to delete the respective line in that file using Kate?
( I guess the trailing ",Application" just doesn't belong there )

> Is this normal?

No.

> Should I simply delete that file?  since i never ever used that program I
> have uninstalled it.

If you delete the file, the application won't appear in the K-Menu.

> #9  0x41db6453 in scim::TransactionReader::get_data_type ()

SCIM is the component which deals with input methods (i.e. stuff like
asian/non-latin letters). No idea why this is causing trouble here. So yes,
it might be related to the qt-packages or some incompatible libraries which
deal with scim input, however I'm not familiar with that stuff.

Torsten

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[Genny-3]

Thank you for your reply.

I am sad to say good bye to KDE, but Suse has too many issues updateing it.  
Until I can get a different distro I have to move to something that works.  I
hope when I return on a few months that kode-women.org will of been
updated ;)  There are alot of great applications out there that need adding
to the website.  I absolutly love KDE 3.5.4.  Great work!

Best wishes,

On Thursday 14 September 2006 04:58, Torsten Rahn wrote:

> Hi Genny,
>
> On 14.09.2006 03:56, Genny wrote:
> > My question here is, did it really work?  Is it safe to reboot my
> > computer/proceed with installing the rest of the packages?  What was the
> > permissions and ownerships error?
>
> I have no experience with Smart but it looks ok to me. I would interprete
> the wrong permissions to have been fixed.
>
> > When I tried to reinstall Opera (web browser) I got this error:
> > File '/opt/kde3/share/applications/kde/knights.desktop' contains invalid
> > MIME type 'application/x-chess-pgn,Application' that contains invalid
> > character
>
> Did you try to delete the respective line in that file using Kate?
> ( I guess the trailing ",Application" just doesn't belong there )
>
> > Is this normal?
>
> No.
>
> > Should I simply delete that file?  since i never ever used that program I
> > have uninstalled it.
>
> If you delete the file, the application won't appear in the K-Menu.
>
> > #9  0x41db6453 in scim::TransactionReader::get_data_type ()
>
> SCIM is the component which deals with input methods (i.e. stuff like
> asian/non-latin letters). No idea why this is causing trouble here. So yes,
> it might be related to the qt-packages or some incompatible libraries which
> deal with scim input, however I'm not familiar with that stuff.
>
> Torsten
>
> _______________________________________________
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> kde-women@...
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[Eva Brucherseifer]

Hi Genny,

have you tried Kubuntu? It comes along with current KDE and also it uses
Debian update mechanism. I was told that this works better.

I have to admit, that even though I am using and administrating my suse box
since 1998, having administrated Solaris for 5 years and having been a suse
beta tester for some versions, I also was alienated by recent changes in
Suse's update mechanims. So far I didn't have the time (and motivation) to
learn their new stuff and your report doesn't motivate either (I also have
suse 9.3).

Maybe it is time to switch to Kubuntu. A lot of my friends are very happy with
it. And due to better colaboration with the core Ubuntu team Kubuntu is
growing fast.

Cheers,
eva

Am Donnerstag, 14. September 2006 13:52 schrieb Genny:

> Thank you for your reply.
>
> I am sad to say good bye to KDE, but Suse has too many issues updateing it.
> Until I can get a different distro I have to move to something that works.
> I hope when I return on a few months that kode-women.org will of been
> updated ;)  There are alot of great applications out there that need adding
> to the website.  I absolutly love KDE 3.5.4.  Great work!
>
> Best wishes,
>
> On Thursday 14 September 2006 04:58, Torsten Rahn wrote:
> > Hi Genny,
> >
> > On 14.09.2006 03:56, Genny wrote:
> > > My question here is, did it really work?  Is it safe to reboot my
> > > computer/proceed with installing the rest of the packages?  What was
> > > the permissions and ownerships error?
> >
> > I have no experience with Smart but it looks ok to me. I would interprete
> > the wrong permissions to have been fixed.
> >
> > > When I tried to reinstall Opera (web browser) I got this error:
> > > File '/opt/kde3/share/applications/kde/knights.desktop' contains
> > > invalid MIME type 'application/x-chess-pgn,Application' that contains
> > > invalid character
> >
> > Did you try to delete the respective line in that file using Kate?
> > ( I guess the trailing ",Application" just doesn't belong there )
> >
> > > Is this normal?
> >
> > No.
> >
> > > Should I simply delete that file?  since i never ever used that program
> > > I have uninstalled it.
> >
> > If you delete the file, the application won't appear in the K-Menu.
> >
> > > #9  0x41db6453 in scim::TransactionReader::get_data_type ()
> >
> > SCIM is the component which deals with input methods (i.e. stuff like
> > asian/non-latin letters). No idea why this is causing trouble here. So
> > yes, it might be related to the qt-packages or some incompatible
> > libraries which deal with scim input, however I'm not familiar with that
> > stuff.
> >
> > Torsten
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > kde-women@...
> > https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-women
>
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[Torsten Rahn]

> I am sad to say good bye to KDE, but Suse has too many issues updateing it.

If you're still having trouble I'd contact binner@.... He's one of the KDE
packaging people at SUSE and I'm quite sure that he'll have much more
experience to help you.

> Until I can get a different distro I have to move to something that works.

I personally use Kubuntu these days which you can even order at no cost at

https://shipit.kubuntu.org/

but I'm quite sure other distributions such as Mandriva and Mepis (which is
based on Kubuntu as well), etc. would do the trick as well.

> I hope when I return on a few months that kode-women.org will of been
> updated ;)  

Not quite sure what you mean by that :-)

Torsten
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