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Using the new PF remote for Technic

by Eric Albrecht :: Rate this Message:

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Hi everyone,

I just got back from Brickfest in Portland and was lucky enough to see the
unveiling of the new 10194 Emerald Night train and the new Power Functions
elements which can be used with it.  

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I'm not a train guy, but I had been anticipating the release of this remote in
the hopes that it would allow better and more precise control of R/C Technic
vehicles and other MOCs.  After most people left one evening I spent a fair
amount of time driving the Emerald Night around the track with the new
controller to figure out how it works and how I might adapt it.  Note that I am
{NOT} an electronics guy and have not read the PF protocol, I was merely testing
it from a practical standpoint.  I've jotted a few of my observations below.
Based on my conclusions, it will not be very useful for controlling vehicles
other than trains.  Feel free to add your own thoughts.

* The control is not infinitely variable.  The control wheels have detents which
  offer a set of discrete power levels.  From what I was able to determine,
  there are 5-7 of them.  While this would work for an R/C vehicle, it is less
  than ideal.

* The signal is not continuous.  When you move the dial, a short duration signal
  seems to be sent out.  This makes sense for trains for a couple of reasons.
  You don't want to have to have the remote on the whole time the train is
  running.  You want "fire and forget".  Also, if the train is out of
  line-of-sight, such as in a tunnel, you wouldn't want it to stop.  So the
  train just keeps going with the last setting until it gets a new signal.  This
  would not work well for R/C vehicles.  First of all, the failure mode of
  getting out of range would be your vehicle driving off into oblivion.  It also
  means that to slow down after driving, you couldn't simply let go of the
  control.  You would have to reverse the direction (or hit the emergency stop).
  This could be partially rectified by setting up a spring return system on the
  controller except for the next point.

* There is no absolute link between control wheel position and speed.  Signals
  seem to all be relative.  In other words, when I turn the wheel 1 click
  clockwise, it sends a +1 signal.  It sends -1 for counter-clockwise.  It does
  not send, for example, "Power Level 5".  This means that if your vehicle is
  out of range when you move the wheel, nothing happens.  It also means that you
  have now lost your center point.  So even if you spring loaded steering
  control to center, one missed IR packet would result in your steering now
  being off.


From what I understand of the PF system, a proper R/C system for vehicles is
possible, but this new system is clearly geared (no pun intended) toward train
control.

The new Li-Po battery, on the other hand, could be quite useful.....

Eric Albrecht

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