VLC setup problems...

[stuart-20]

Hi...

I finally put together a MBE mythtv box powerful enough to handle VLC
transcoding on the fly.  But...

Ok, I mostly followed the wiki here:
> http://mvpmc.wikispaces.com/vlc

But added the media user by hand and give it a unique passwd.  So,
question 1 - when I telnet to the MBE mythtv machine at port 4212 I am
prompted for a passwd (good - vlc is working), but when I use the passwd
I gave to user "media" it says "Wrong password".  What passwd is it
looking for?

I have multiple back ends.  Some w/more then one recording directory.
Is there a way to make a single VLC server for mvpmc for all the
recordings?  Regrettably, the first thing that crosses my mind is to
have 2 vlc servers running.  And even that may not access all the
recordings on the back end with 2 recording directories.

Anyone else w/these problems?

-thanks




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[Roger Heflin-3]

stuart wrote:

> Hi...
>
> I finally put together a MBE mythtv box powerful enough to handle VLC
> transcoding on the fly.  But...
>
> Ok, I mostly followed the wiki here:
>> http://mvpmc.wikispaces.com/vlc
>
> But added the media user by hand and give it a unique passwd.  So,
> question 1 - when I telnet to the MBE mythtv machine at port 4212 I am
> prompted for a passwd (good - vlc is working), but when I use the passwd
> I gave to user "media" it says "Wrong password".  What passwd is it
> looking for?

I don't have vlc setup with a password, so I don't know about that part.
>
> I have multiple back ends.  Some w/more then one recording directory.
> Is there a way to make a single VLC server for mvpmc for all the
> recordings?  Regrettably, the first thing that crosses my mind is to
> have 2 vlc servers running.  And even that may not access all the
> recordings on the back end with 2 recording directories.
>
> Anyone else w/these problems?
>

If the files have the same paths on all of the other machines as the
single vlc machine then it should allow you to get to all of them,
even in different directories.    I use vlc with the file
browser and in there there is no defined directory, and it is
completely outside of the mythtv part that I use for other things.

I am not sure if the mythtv part of mvpmc will use vlc at all, I have
only used it from the file browser part.   I pre-transcode all of my
incompatible stuff with a job after it records, typically it is ready
to watch about 35 minutes after a hour show finished recording on a
AMD 7750 overclocked to 3.1Ghz.

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[stuart-20]

Roger Heflin wrote:

> stuart wrote:
>> Hi...
>>
>> I finally put together a MBE mythtv box powerful enough to handle VLC
>> transcoding on the fly.  But...
>>
>> Ok, I mostly followed the wiki here:
>>> http://mvpmc.wikispaces.com/vlc
>> But added the media user by hand and give it a unique passwd.  So,
>> question 1 - when I telnet to the MBE mythtv machine at port 4212 I am
>> prompted for a passwd (good - vlc is working), but when I use the passwd
>> I gave to user "media" it says "Wrong password".  What passwd is it
>> looking for?
>
> I don't have vlc setup with a password, so I don't know about that part.

Odd, in the above wiki it states if you are asked for a passwd you're
good.  Otherwise I think it assumes there is a telnet problem.  But what
passwd is the question I have.  In the vlc command line embedded in the
init.d script, the users is "media".  So I assumed one used media's
passwd. But that didn't work for me.

>> I have multiple back ends.  Some w/more then one recording directory.
>> Is there a way to make a single VLC server for mvpmc for all the
>> recordings?  Regrettably, the first thing that crosses my mind is to
>> have 2 vlc servers running.  And even that may not access all the
>> recordings on the back end with 2 recording directories.
>>
>> Anyone else w/these problems?
>>
>
> If the files have the same paths on all of the other machines as the
> single vlc machine then it should allow you to get to all of them,
> even in different directories.    I use vlc with the file
> browser and in there there is no defined directory, and it is
> completely outside of the mythtv part that I use for other things.

I am beginning to think it will not be possible to access all my mythtv
recordings at a given mvpmc box.  I have a recordings directory on my
MBE and two recording directories on my SBE.  Each BE has 2 ATSC tuners.
  After all three recording partitions fill, the tuner used to record a
given show becomes almost random.  After reading the howtos it looks
like I'll need to compromise and set-up vlc on only 1 box and only for 1
recordings directory / partition. If a show gets recorded on the other
partition or even another BE computer I'll just be out of luck.

> I am not sure if the mythtv part of mvpmc will use vlc at all, I have
> only used it from the file browser part.   I pre-transcode all of my
> incompatible stuff with a job after it records, typically it is ready
> to watch about 35 minutes after a hour show finished recording on a
> AMD 7750 overclocked to 3.1Ghz.

Yes, I could re-encode - and not use vlc at all.  But I have real mythtv
front ends that can handle all ATSC programming.  The mvpmc box can not
even handle SD ATSC programming let alone HD ATSC programming.  So, I
don't want to transcode after recording.  I want to transcode on the fly
/ on demand for the mvpmc boxes.

-thanks


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[Tom Metro-10]

stuart wrote:
> ...when I telnet to the MBE mythtv machine at port 4212 I am
> prompted for a passwd (good - vlc is working), but when I use the passwd
> I gave to user "media" it says "Wrong password".  What passwd is it
> looking for?

I haven't been through the VLC setup, but I'm guessing the password is
something that's specified in a VLC config or command line. I suspect
that even though the VLC server is using the telnet protocol, you aren't
actually logging in to the machine via telnet, so the user account
password is irrelevant.


> Is there a way to make a single VLC server for mvpmc for all the
> recordings?

My recollection is that there is no VLC integration with mvpmc's MythTV
client. To use VLC you need to go through mvpmc's file browser. Thus if
you have a matching set of mounted file systems on the mvpmc box and the
server running VLC, then the paths should align.

  -Tom


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[stuart-20]

Tom Metro wrote:
> stuart wrote:
...
>> Is there a way to make a single VLC server for mvpmc for all the
>> recordings?
>
> My recollection is that there is no VLC integration with mvpmc's MythTV
> client. To use VLC you need to go through mvpmc's file browser. Thus if
> you have a matching set of mounted file systems on the mvpmc box and the
> server running VLC, then the paths should align.
>
>   -Tom

Was I dreaming? I must be suffering from a brain block.  Yes, that makes
sense.  That whole bit about mounting files identically on both the
server and client would not make sense if using the mythtv protocol.
Aaaah (shudder), I've got to start thinking before typing more often!

Ok, so I assume the way people are going about watching ATSC on a mvpmc
box are:

1) Transcode everything to NTSC/stereo.  Shame, as I have real front
ends capable of ATSC/5.1.

2) Use VLC to serve up a real-name-linked-list-of-shows to the mvpmc's
file browser.

Also, there may be future hope:

Find out what happened to Chase's iTouch/iPhone project.  Looked like a
promising interface between mythtv and mvpmc (i.e. mvpmc thinks it's
talking to a mythtv box w/NTSC/stereo recordings).

-thanks



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