VMware Workstation 7 DOES work on F12RC.1

[Christopher A. Williams-3]

Followup to a number of other threads on this subject..

I loaded F12RC.1 this evening from scratch and, as a part of my promised
experimenting, I installed VMware Workstation 7 (build 203739).

The minor issue with SELinux aside (portrelease dac being denied, which
either installing while in permissive mode or re-compiling VMware's
modules separately later on fixes), Workstation 7 installed and ran
flawlessly. Absolutely no issues whatsoever.

So, given previous commentary, it seems the problem with Workstation 7
on F12 actually had something to do with F12 - and most likely something
going on with X. The problem wasn't with Workstation 7. Whatever the
problem was, it also seems to have been fixed in the latest Rawhide / RC
updates, and seems to have happened sometime after the beta was
released.

I'm certainly not going to complain that it is working now. Hopefully it
will stay that way.

Cheers,

Chris


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[Jonathan Kamens]

While I'm glad to hear that VMware Workstation 7 works on Rawhide, I'm sorry
to say that, at least for me, VMware Player 3 does NOT.  I upgraded
everything from Rawhide just yesterday and then installed and tried to run
VMware Player.  It installs cleanly but coredumps on startup.

VMware Server 2 doesn't work either.  The custom modules don't compile
against the current kernel, and while it's possible to hack the module
source to get it to compile, the result appears to be quite unstable.  I
crashed VMware several times and locked up my system once while trying to
get it to work.

Alas, this means there's no way to run VMware virtual machines for free on
F12, at least not until VMware does something to make either VMware Player
or VMware Server work better with it.

Please note that I *did* look for alternatives to VMware before going down
this route.  First, I tried Qemu.  Unfortunately, I can't use KVM with it
because my CPU doesn't support Intel-VT, and apparently the folks who
maintain Qemu for Fedora have decided not to support kqemu, so the
performance of Qemu is positively awful, and in fact it's so slow that the
application that I need to run on Windows (TurboTax) doesn't work.

I tried getting TurboTax to install and run under WINE, a huge time sink
which in the end turned out to be a complete waste of time.

I suppose there's little that can be done by the Fedora developers, except
perhaps to reconsider dropping support for kqemu.  I guess I'm just going to
have to bite the bullet and spend the time and money to set myself up with a
new motherboard and CPU that support KVM so that Qemu will run at a
reasonable speed. (Yes, I consider that preferable to spending money for
VMware Workstation -- I *do* support free software, after all. :-)

  Jik
 


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[rahulsundaram]

On 11/09/2009 10:09 PM, Jonathan Kamens wrote:

>
> I suppose there's little that can be done by the Fedora developers, except
> perhaps to reconsider dropping support for kqemu.  I guess I'm just going to
> have to bite the bullet and spend the time and money to set myself up with a
> new motherboard and CPU that support KVM so that Qemu will run at a
> reasonable speed. (Yes, I consider that preferable to spending money for
> VMware Workstation -- I *do* support free software, after all. :-)

We have never supported kqemu because that module is a third party
kernel module not merged upstream and it is generally a pain to keep
third party kernel modules working with frequent kernel updates we get
it in Fedora.  However kqemu and VirtualBox (which also requires a third
party kernel module) is available in RPM Fusion free repository and you
are free to check them out.

Rahul

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[Daniel P. Berrange-2]

On Mon, Nov 09, 2009 at 11:39:40AM -0500, Jonathan Kamens wrote:
> Please note that I *did* look for alternatives to VMware before going down
> this route.  First, I tried Qemu.  Unfortunately, I can't use KVM with it
> because my CPU doesn't support Intel-VT, and apparently the folks who
> maintain Qemu for Fedora have decided not to support kqemu, so the
> performance of Qemu is positively awful, and in fact it's so slow that the
> application that I need to run on Windows (TurboTax) doesn't work.

kqemu has been unmaintained upstream for a long time now, and upstream
QEMU developers finally deleted it entirely. Fedora is just following
upstream's recommendation which is to not support kqemu and as of F11
we don't even need to disable it, the kqemu code simply doesn't exist
anymore.

Regards,
Daniel
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