VoiceXML conformance test

[Dr. Dirk Schnelle-Walka]

Hi all,

we are using the VoiceXML conformance test to test our voice browser
implementation.

Some of the tests go to a web page that is located at TellME studio,
e.g. http://www.w3.org/Voice/2004/vxml-ir/528/528a1.txml

Now we discovered that the referenced site dows not work any more. A
call to http://www.w3.org/Voice/2004/vxml-ir/528/528a1.txml returns
object not found.

Is the test not supported any more?

~dirk

[Dr. Dirk Schnelle-Walka]

Dr. Dirk Schnelle-Walka schrieb:

> Hi all,
>
> we are using the VoiceXML conformance test to test our voice browser
> implementation.
>
> Some of the tests go to a web page that is located at TellME studio,
> e.g. http://www.w3.org/Voice/2004/vxml-ir/528/528a1.txml
>
> Now we discovered that the referenced site dows not work any more. A
> call to http://www.w3.org/Voice/2004/vxml-ir/528/528a1.txml returns
> object not found.
>

I had a copy&past error, here. I meant:

http://studio.tellme.com/vxml2-ir-tests/res/528a2.vxml#second


> Is the test not supported any more?
>
> ~dirk
>
>

[Ian Sutherland]

Dr. Dirk Schnelle-Walka wrote:
> Dr. Dirk Schnelle-Walka schrieb:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> we are using the VoiceXML conformance test to test our voice browser
>> implementation.

Please be specific about what conformance test you're referring to.  Are
you talking about a set of tests from the W3C?  What set?

>>
>> Some of the tests go to a web page that is located at TellME studio,
>> e.g. http://www.w3.org/Voice/2004/vxml-ir/528/528a1.txml
>>
>> Now we discovered that the referenced site dows not work any more. A
>> call to http://www.w3.org/Voice/2004/vxml-ir/528/528a1.txml returns
>> object not found.
>>
>
> I had a copy&past error, here. I meant:
>
> http://studio.tellme.com/vxml2-ir-tests/res/528a2.vxml#second
>
>
>> Is the test not supported any more?
>>
>> ~dirk
>>
>>
>
>

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[Dr. Dirk Schnelle-Walka]

Hi,
> Please be specific about what conformance test you're referring to.  
> Are you talking about a set of tests from the W3C?  What set?
>
>>>
>>> Some of the tests go to a web page that is located at TellME studio,
>>> e.g. http://www.w3.org/Voice/2004/vxml-ir/528/528a1.txml

Sorry, but I thought that the link was specific enough.  I am talking
about the VoiceXML 2.0 conformance test which is described at
http://www.w3.org/Voice/2004/vxml-ir/

Is there any better? Maybe I missed something?

~dirk

[Ian Sutherland]

Dr. Dirk Schnelle-Walka wrote:

Hi,

Please be specific about what conformance test you're referring to.  Are you talking about a set of tests from the W3C?  What set?

Some of the tests go to a web page that is located at TellME studio, e.g. http://www.w3.org/Voice/2004/vxml-ir/528/528a1.txml

Sorry, but I thought that the link was specific enough.

Sorry, I didn't read the URL: I thought it was the URL to the TellMe studio.

I am talking about the VoiceXML 2.0 conformance test which is described at http://www.w3.org/Voice/2004/vxml-ir/

Is there any better? Maybe I missed something?

The VoiceXML Forum has a conformance suite that tests 2.0, 2.1, and SRGS 1.0.  I'm pretty sure it contains no references to the TellMe studio :)

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[Erhart, George W (George)]

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I think the confusion is that the original Implementation Report (IR) tests are still up. I believe that those tests do contain references to the Tell-Me website. These are NOT the conformance test. The current release candidate for VXML 2.0, VXML 2.1, and SRGS 1.0 is available from the VXML Forum web site. To download the test suite, you must login to the members portal and navigate to the Conformance->Files area.

 

If you find incorrect URL references in the current release candidate, we definitely want to know ASAP.

 

George

 

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Subject: Re: VoiceXML conformance test

 

Dr. Dirk Schnelle-Walka wrote:

Hi,

Please be specific about what conformance test you're referring to.  Are you talking about a set of tests from the W3C?  What set?

Some of the tests go to a web page that is located at TellME studio, e.g. http://www.w3.org/Voice/2004/vxml-ir/528/528a1.txml

Sorry, but I thought that the link was specific enough.

Sorry, I didn't read the URL: I thought it was the URL to the TellMe studio.

I am talking about the VoiceXML 2.0 conformance test which is described at http://www.w3.org/Voice/2004/vxml-ir/

Is there any better? Maybe I missed something?

The VoiceXML Forum has a conformance suite that tests 2.0, 2.1, and SRGS 1.0.  I'm pretty sure it contains no references to the TellMe studio :)

[Dr. Dirk Schnelle-Walka]

Hi George and Ian,

Thanks for the clarification.

> I think the confusion is that the original Implementation Report (IR)
> tests are still up. I believe that those tests do contain references
> to the Tell-Me website.

Yes, this is true.

> These are NOT the conformance test. The current release candidate for
> VXML 2.0, VXML 2.1, and SRGS 1.0 is available from the VXML Forum web
> site. To download the test suite, you must login to the members portal
> and navigate to the Conformance->Files area.
>
>  
>
> If you find incorrect URL references in the current release candidate,
> we definitely want to know ASAP.

My problem with these tests is that they require a membership. Our
implementation of a Voice browser is open source and is not being
sponsored or supported by a company. So I do not have the money to
become a member. Without the chance to earn money with my project I
would have to pay it on my own.

I have the impression that there is no room in the VoiceXML forum for
projects like ours. I do not want to start a discussion about that but I
I think that it would be good for us to leave the tests there.

Since I did not have access to the restricted area at the VoiceXML forum
I was looking for a different solution to ensure that our
implementations follows the spec and ended up with this test suite. In
fact we found a lot of open issues with it, so it helped us a lot.

Thanks
~dirk

[Kazuyuki Ashimura]

Dear Dirk Schnelle-Walka and all,

Thank you very much for your comments.

We W3C Voice Browser Working Group are checking the details of this
issue.  Could you please wait a moment?

Sincerely,

Kazuyuki



Dr. Dirk Schnelle-Walka wrote:

> Hi George and Ian,
>
> Thanks for the clarification.
>
>> I think the confusion is that the original Implementation Report (IR)
>> tests are still up. I believe that those tests do contain references
>> to the Tell-Me website.
>
> Yes, this is true.
>
>> These are NOT the conformance test. The current release candidate for
>> VXML 2.0, VXML 2.1, and SRGS 1.0 is available from the VXML Forum web
>> site. To download the test suite, you must login to the members portal
>> and navigate to the Conformance->Files area.
>>
>>  
>>
>> If you find incorrect URL references in the current release candidate,
>> we definitely want to know ASAP.
>
> My problem with these tests is that they require a membership. Our
> implementation of a Voice browser is open source and is not being
> sponsored or supported by a company. So I do not have the money to
> become a member. Without the chance to earn money with my project I
> would have to pay it on my own.
>
> I have the impression that there is no room in the VoiceXML forum for
> projects like ours. I do not want to start a discussion about that but I
> I think that it would be good for us to leave the tests there.
>
> Since I did not have access to the restricted area at the VoiceXML forum
> I was looking for a different solution to ensure that our
> implementations follows the spec and ended up with this test suite. In
> fact we found a lot of open issues with it, so it helped us a lot.
>
> Thanks
> ~dirk
>
>

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Kazuyuki Ashimura / W3C Multimodal & Voice Activity Lead
mailto: ashimura@...
voice: +81.466.49.1170 / fax: [phone]

[Russell Gulli]

Hi,

Could you please clarify which test suite is to be used for VoiceXML 2.0
and 2.1 conformance?

I found
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-voice/2009AprJun/0028.html which
states "To download the test suite, you must login to the members portal
and navigate to the Conformance->Files area"

When I login and navigate to Conformance->Files area there are many
choices for test suites.  Can you please clarify the exact suite that is
to be used for VoiceXML 2.0 and 2.1 conformance.

Is it
http://www.voicexmlforum.net/vxml-conformance/file-fix/Merged%20Test%20S
uite/vxml_test_suite_2.1_RC3.tar.gz

or
http://www.voicexmlforum.net/vxml-conformance/file-fix/VoiceXML%202.0%20
test%20suite/vxml20_1.0.1d.tar.gz
and
http://www.voicexmlforum.net/vxml-conformance/file-fix/VoiceXML%202.1%20
Test%20Suite/vxml21_0.0.3.tar.gz

or
http://www.voicexmlforum.net/vxml-conformance/file-fix/VoiceXML%202.0%20
test%20suite/vxml20_1.0.1d.tar.gz
and
http://www.voicexmlforum.net/vxml-conformance/file-fix/W3C%20IR%20test%2
0suites/VoiceXML%202.1/irtests.zip

Or something else?

Thanks,

Russell Gulli