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Vote ABSTAIN: Source URL keyword
by Cosmin Truta
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ABSTAIN Source URL keyword ftp://ftp.simplesystems.org/pub/png-group/documents/ Source_URL_keyword_20080906.txt Cosmin Truta Happy to see myself able to cast a last-minute vote that will hopefully help to pass the dSIG OID proposal (if my vote count so far is correct). This one, on the other hand, doesn't seem to matter anymore. I am abstaining, contrary to my earlier intention of voting yes, because of a reason that I will provide as soon as I find the time. (Gotta go now...) Cheers, Cosmin ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ _______________________________________________ png-mng-misc mailing list png-mng-misc@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/png-mng-misc |
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Re: Vote ABSTAIN: Source URL keyword
by Cosmin Truta
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Hello, This is coming late and the small number of votes received in total makes it a non-issue, but I am writing this response for the sake of my promise. When John first proposed "Source URI" (the first draft wording, not the actual proposal), he mentioned rendering of an object - any object - and I liked that more than "Screenshot URL" that had just been voted down at that time. With that in mind, I had the intention to vote "yes" in the event my counter-proposed "URI" fails. It is my mistake that, due to my not so careful reading, I had not noticed that the final wording - both "Source URI" and "Source URL" - went back and limited the applicability to web pages. So, to me, this was just a rewrite of "Screenshot URL", but with a less suggestive / more ambiguous name. I was somewhere between "no" and "abstain", and it made no difference. Best regards, Cosmin On Sun, 5 Oct 2008, Cosmin Truta wrote: > ABSTAIN > Source URL keyword > ftp://ftp.simplesystems.org/pub/png-group/documents/ > Source_URL_keyword_20080906.txt > Cosmin Truta > > [...] I am > abstaining, contrary to my earlier intention of voting yes, because of a > reason that I will provide as soon as I find the time. (Gotta go now...) > > Cheers, > Cosmin ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ _______________________________________________ png-mng-misc mailing list png-mng-misc@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/png-mng-misc |
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Re: Vote ABSTAIN: Source URL keyword
by John Bowler
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From: glennrp@... [mailto:glennrp@...]
>(the Source URL proposal does mention web pages; I don't >see what would be wrong with such a limitation.) I don't think anyone defines 'web page' anywhere, but certainly if the intent was to restrict the URI to what is conventionally meant by a web page that would be bad. I certainly intended the original (Source URI) definition to be useable for any URI, whether the resource is (for example) a page on the world-wide-web or not. In particular I *did* intend the URN interpretation, where the resource is not locatable, merely identifiable. John Bowler <jbowler@...> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ _______________________________________________ png-mng-misc mailing list png-mng-misc@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/png-mng-misc |
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Re: Vote ABSTAIN: Source URL keyword
by Glenn Randers-Pehrson
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On 10/14/08, glennrp@... <glennrp@...> wrote:
> As I probably said previously, both "Source URL" (restricted to web > pages and other URLs) and "Source URN" (less restricted) are fine > with me I meant to say "Source URI" not "Source URN" Sorry for the confusion. Glenn ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ _______________________________________________ png-mng-misc mailing list png-mng-misc@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/png-mng-misc |
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Re: Vote ABSTAIN: Source URL keyword
by John Bowler
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From: glennrp@... [mailto:glennrp@...]
>So, do I understand correctly that "Source URL" failed because it >contained a definition consistent with URL instead of URI? "Source URI" >had already failed earlier. Well... the keyword didn't succeed or fail - what failed was the vote to add the definition. As you say an application writer is free to use either, neither or both with any appropriate definition. I *think* the second one - "Source URL" - failed because people who had voted before didn't feel that the new definition was actually an improvement on "Source URI" so didn't vote. That's just a guess. >As I probably said previously, both "Source URL" (restricted to web >pages and other URLs) and "Source URN" (less restricted) are fine >with me and probably should have both been approved. I recommend >that people go ahead and use whichever is appropriate to their own >particular situation, registered or not. I think it if were me I would write "Source URI" and read "source ur[nli]" (case insensitive.) I wouldn't treat URN, URI and URL as different because I think it's pretty clear that most people don't distinguish URI from URL. John Bowler <jbowler@...> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ _______________________________________________ png-mng-misc mailing list png-mng-misc@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/png-mng-misc |
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Re: Vote ABSTAIN: Source URL keyword
by Cosmin Truta
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On Mon, 13 Oct 2008, glennrp@... wrote: > From: Cosmin Truta > >> It is my mistake that, due to my not so careful reading, I had not >> noticed that the final wording - both "Source URI" and "Source URL" - >> went back and limited the applicability to web pages. > > Here is what we voted on. It does not seem to have such a limitation. > > File: source_uri_keyword_20080803.txt > > It is proposed to register the following new text keyword for > use in PNG files: > > Source URI If the image was produced by rendering a single > resource a URI identifying that resource, as defined > by [RFC 3986|http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3986] I'm confused. The text you're quoting above was source_urI_keyword_20080803.txt. I thought the CFV was on the following: Source_URL_keyword_20080906.txt Source URL If the image was produced by rendering a single URL the text portion of this chunk contains a URL identifying that web page, as defined by [http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3986#section-1.1.3| RFC 3986 section 1.1.3] I admit I might have missed something in the discussion - lately I can barely find 5-10 minutes per week to spend with this list, and I concentrated on my dSIG OID vote - but this is what I *think* we were supposed to vote on. Best regards, Cosmin ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ _______________________________________________ png-mng-misc mailing list png-mng-misc@... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/png-mng-misc |
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