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Voting Process

by gnu_andrew :: Rate this Message:

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Hi all,

Can I clarify something with regards to the voting process: what
happens if an edit receives no votes and expires?  Is the edit lost
for good?

While some of my edits have no problems in quickly amassing votes
(either for or against), I have a number of edits that haven't
received votes, and I'm worried this work will be lost.
http://musicbrainz.org/release/a35fc4c5-5147-4c86-a130-8166a49ade3f.html
is an example.

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Re: Voting Process

by trolley :: Rate this Message:

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Edits with no votes pass I believe.

On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Andrew John Hughes
<gnu_andrew@...> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Can I clarify something with regards to the voting process: what
> happens if an edit receives no votes and expires?  Is the edit lost
> for good?
>
> While some of my edits have no problems in quickly amassing votes
> (either for or against), I have a number of edits that haven't
> received votes, and I'm worried this work will be lost.
> http://musicbrainz.org/release/a35fc4c5-5147-4c86-a130-8166a49ade3f.html
> is an example.
>
> Thanks,
> --
> Andrew :-)
>
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>
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Re: Voting Process

by gnu_andrew :: Rate this Message:

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2009/4/1 Mark Trolley <marktrolley@...>:

> Edits with no votes pass I believe.
>
> On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Andrew John Hughes
> <gnu_andrew@...> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Can I clarify something with regards to the voting process: what
>> happens if an edit receives no votes and expires?  Is the edit lost
>> for good?
>>
>> While some of my edits have no problems in quickly amassing votes
>> (either for or against), I have a number of edits that haven't
>> received votes, and I'm worried this work will be lost.
>> http://musicbrainz.org/release/a35fc4c5-5147-4c86-a130-8166a49ade3f.html
>> is an example.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> --
>> Andrew :-)
>>
>> Free Java Software Engineer
>> Red Hat, Inc. (http://www.redhat.com)
>>
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Ah yes:

'Some edits are considered AutoEdits for all users and are applied
immediately. For most edits, however, they will be subject to normal
DataQuality requirements, and they will be applied after 14 days,
assuming they have more YES votes than NO votes, or no votes at all.'

from the editing FAQ.  I didn't see the second clause before; that has
put my mind at ease! :)
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Re: Voting Process

by Age Bosma-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Mark Trolley wrote:
> Edits with no votes pass I believe.
>

It depends on the Quality level:
http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/conditions.html

Yours,

Age

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Re: Voting Process

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Ah yes, thanks. I rarely see anything but Default when editing so
didn't think about quality level.

On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Age Bosma <agebosma@...> wrote:

> Mark Trolley wrote:
>> Edits with no votes pass I believe.
>>
>
> It depends on the Quality level:
> http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/conditions.html
>
> Yours,
>
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Re: Voting Process

by gnu_andrew :: Rate this Message:

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2009/4/1 Mark Trolley <marktrolley@...>:

> Ah yes, thanks. I rarely see anything but Default when editing so
> didn't think about quality level.
>
> On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Age Bosma <agebosma@...> wrote:
>> Mark Trolley wrote:
>>> Edits with no votes pass I believe.
>>>
>>
>> It depends on the Quality level:
>> http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/conditions.html
>>
>> Yours,
>>
>> Age
>>
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Is there a known set of criteria for upping the quality level? I've
only seen 'default' quality too (and most of my concerns are with
releases I've entered from scratch).  My intuitive understanding of
where this is appropriate would be when the release has a full set of
data (e.g. full titles, artists and times, inlay data converted to
relationships such as producers, composers, etc., any links to URLs or
other releases added).
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Re: Voting Process

by Kuno Woudt-2 :: Rate this Message:

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On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 06:13:26PM +0000, Andrew John Hughes wrote:
> Is there a known set of criteria for upping the quality level? I've
> only seen 'default' quality too (and most of my concerns are with
> releases I've entered from scratch).  My intuitive understanding of
> where this is appropriate would be when the release has a full set of
> data (e.g. full titles, artists and times, inlay data converted to
> relationships such as producers, composers, etc., any links to URLs or
> other releases added).

With the Data Quality raised it becomes quite a bit harder to edit
a release, even just adding ARs (and it's rare for a release to be
_complete_, where complete means that all possible ARs have been
added and there really is nothing more which can or should be
editted about the release).  

So, raising the Data Quality level should only be used when
neccesary (IMO), for example to prevent vandalism of an entry by
a popular artist.

The releases which need their Data Quality raised will probably be
popular enough to have a number of subscribers to vote 'yes' on any
good edits to the release.

-- kuno / warp.



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