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Re: WS Human Tasks implementation
by mriou
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On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Rafal Rusin <rafal.rusin@...> wrote:
> Hello, > > is there a chance of developing such project at Apache? > Details ale below. > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Rafal Rusin <rafal.rusin@...> > Date: 2009/10/6 > Subject: WS Human Tasks implementation > To: dev@... > > > Hello, > > we started recently wsht project at TouK, which aims at implementing > WS Human Tasks spec > Cool :) > ( > http://top.touk.pl/confluence/display/top/WSHT+-+WS+Human+Tasks+Implementation > ). > In current version, there is implemented about 20% of spec, which > includes task creation, assigning, retrieval. Persistence is > implemented. Currently, there are no task escalations and > notifications. > > We would like to donate it to Apache and continue development here. > > I saw some discussion before, which pointed that this kind of project > would be desired at Apache > (http://markmail.org/thread/es3h3yprjrttxhlu). > There was also Agila project in Apache Incubator, which was meant to > implement Human Workflow solution, but it's abandoned (IMO because of > too broad scope - it included BPEL engine implmentation and web > console for management, details are here: > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/agila/trunk). > > So we would like to shorten this scope and implement only services for > WS Human Tasks spec. This would consist of 2 distributions (war and > jbi) which would expose web services for tasks management. I saw there > was some interest on ServiceMix mailing list too, so I think jbi > distribution would be desired > (http://markmail.org/thread/svyxd6xrm2tbwnsz). > > From our side following people are willing to develop this project: > - Jakub Kurlenda <jkr@...> > - Mateusz Lipczyński <mlp@...> > - Michał Zalewski <mzl@...> > - Rafał Rusin <rr@...> > - Ula Trzaskowska <utr@...> > - Warren Crossing <wcr@...> > - Witek Wołejszo <ww@...> > > Is there anyone here willing to champion such project? > I am and ODE would probably be a good sponsor PMC. Diversity will probably be an issue for the podling but it's not something that has to be solved to enter incubation, just be aware of it. Have you started working on a proposal (see [1])? I can help in doing a first review if you want. Cheers, Matthieu [1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/proposal.html > > I believe also that there can be other code bases for proposal. We are > open for collaboration to get a satisfying WS Human Tasks > implementation. > > Regards, > -- > Rafał Rusin > http://www.touk.pl > http://top.touk.pl > http://people.apache.org/~rr/ <http://people.apache.org/%7Err/> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@... > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@... > > |
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Re: WS Human Tasks implementation
by Niclas Hedhman
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2009/10/8 Matthieu Riou <matthieu.riou@...>:
> Diversity will probably > be an issue for the podling but it's not something that has to be solved to > enter incubation, just be aware of it. Well, diversity (as you say) is not an entry criteria, and I would expect the many WS-* related projects here to "contribute" to diversity. Furthermore, if the scope is relatively limited and the effort is going to, for instance, ODE then I would expect to see ODE folks actively guiding this community, and absorb the diversity concerns both during incubation and afterwards. Cheers -- Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer http://www.qi4j.org - New Energy for Java I live here; http://tinyurl.com/2qq9er I work here; http://tinyurl.com/2ymelc I relax here; http://tinyurl.com/2cgsug --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@... For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@... |
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Re: WS Human Tasks implementation
by Glen Daniels-3
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This sounds great, folks. +1, looking forward to reviewing the proposal.
I would offer to mentor this project, but I'm a little hesitant about having the cycles to do a good job of it. If you find that you really need another, though, sign me up. Thanks, --Glen Matthieu Riou wrote: > On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Rafal Rusin <rafal.rusin@...> wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> is there a chance of developing such project at Apache? >> Details ale below. >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Rafal Rusin <rafal.rusin@...> >> Date: 2009/10/6 >> Subject: WS Human Tasks implementation >> To: dev@... >> >> >> Hello, >> >> we started recently wsht project at TouK, which aims at implementing >> WS Human Tasks spec >> > > Cool :) > > >> ( >> http://top.touk.pl/confluence/display/top/WSHT+-+WS+Human+Tasks+Implementation >> ). >> In current version, there is implemented about 20% of spec, which >> includes task creation, assigning, retrieval. Persistence is >> implemented. Currently, there are no task escalations and >> notifications. >> >> We would like to donate it to Apache and continue development here. >> >> I saw some discussion before, which pointed that this kind of project >> would be desired at Apache >> (http://markmail.org/thread/es3h3yprjrttxhlu). >> There was also Agila project in Apache Incubator, which was meant to >> implement Human Workflow solution, but it's abandoned (IMO because of >> too broad scope - it included BPEL engine implmentation and web >> console for management, details are here: >> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/agila/trunk). >> >> So we would like to shorten this scope and implement only services for >> WS Human Tasks spec. This would consist of 2 distributions (war and >> jbi) which would expose web services for tasks management. I saw there >> was some interest on ServiceMix mailing list too, so I think jbi >> distribution would be desired >> (http://markmail.org/thread/svyxd6xrm2tbwnsz). >> >> From our side following people are willing to develop this project: >> - Jakub Kurlenda <jkr@...> >> - Mateusz Lipczyński <mlp@...> >> - Michał Zalewski <mzl@...> >> - Rafał Rusin <rr@...> >> - Ula Trzaskowska <utr@...> >> - Warren Crossing <wcr@...> >> - Witek Wołejszo <ww@...> >> >> Is there anyone here willing to champion such project? >> > > I am and ODE would probably be a good sponsor PMC. Diversity will probably > be an issue for the podling but it's not something that has to be solved to > enter incubation, just be aware of it. Have you started working on a > proposal (see [1])? I can help in doing a first review if you want. > > Cheers, > Matthieu > > [1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/proposal.html > > >> I believe also that there can be other code bases for proposal. We are >> open for collaboration to get a satisfying WS Human Tasks >> implementation. >> >> Regards, >> -- >> Rafał Rusin >> http://www.touk.pl >> http://top.touk.pl >> http://people.apache.org/~rr/ <http://people.apache.org/%7Err/> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@... >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@... >> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@... For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@... |
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Re: WS Human Tasks implementation
by Matthieu Riou-5
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On Wednesday, October 7, 2009, Niclas Hedhman <niclas@...> wrote:
> 2009/10/8 Matthieu Riou <matthieu.riou@...>: > >> Diversity will probably >> be an issue for the podling but it's not something that has to be solved to >> enter incubation, just be aware of it. > > Well, diversity (as you say) is not an entry criteria, and I would > expect the many WS-* related projects here to "contribute" to > diversity. Furthermore, if the scope is relatively limited and the > effort is going to, for instance, ODE then I would expect to see ODE > folks actively guiding this community, and absorb the diversity > concerns both during incubation and afterwards. > Same here, I was just pointing out the obvious from the list of contributors. Hopefully won't be a real problem as you explained. Matthieu > > Cheers > -- > Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer > http://www.qi4j.org - New Energy for Java > > I live here; http://tinyurl.com/2qq9er > I work here; http://tinyurl.com/2ymelc > I relax here; http://tinyurl.com/2cgsug > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@... For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@... |
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Re: WS Human Tasks implementation
by Rafal Rusin
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Thanks guys for your answers. I'll prepare proposal ASAP.
Regards, 2009/10/8 Matthieu Riou <matthieu@...>: > On Wednesday, October 7, 2009, Niclas Hedhman <niclas@...> wrote: >> 2009/10/8 Matthieu Riou <matthieu.riou@...>: >> >>> Diversity will probably >>> be an issue for the podling but it's not something that has to be solved to >>> enter incubation, just be aware of it. >> >> Well, diversity (as you say) is not an entry criteria, and I would >> expect the many WS-* related projects here to "contribute" to >> diversity. Furthermore, if the scope is relatively limited and the >> effort is going to, for instance, ODE then I would expect to see ODE >> folks actively guiding this community, and absorb the diversity >> concerns both during incubation and afterwards. >> > > Same here, I was just pointing out the obvious from the list of > contributors. Hopefully won't be a real problem as you explained. > > Matthieu > >> >> Cheers >> -- >> Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer >> http://www.qi4j.org - New Energy for Java >> >> I live here; http://tinyurl.com/2qq9er >> I work here; http://tinyurl.com/2ymelc >> I relax here; http://tinyurl.com/2cgsug >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@... > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@... > > -- Rafał Rusin http://www.touk.pl http://top.touk.pl http://people.apache.org/~rr/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@... For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@... |
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Re: WS Human Tasks implementation
by pombredanne-2
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> I'm sending proposal for WS Human Task implementation, project is
> called Humanoid. > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/HumanoidProposal Congratulations! Note that I have already have a project called humanoid on Sourceforge and that I own the humanoid.org domain, just FYI. I do not mind nor care in particular that you also call your project humanoid too, though it may not e the best pick. --- Cordially Philippe Ombredanne > > Regards, > -- > RafaÅ Rusin > http://www.touk.pl > http://top.touk.pl > http://people.apache.org/~rr/ > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@... For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@... |
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Re: WS Human Tasks implementation
by pzfreo
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I've added myself as a proposed Mentor. I'm very happy to mentor this
project and also interested in this domain. Paul On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 9:45 PM, <pombredanne@...> wrote: >> I'm sending proposal for WS Human Task implementation, project is >> called Humanoid. >> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/HumanoidProposal > Congratulations! > Note that I have already have a project called humanoid on Sourceforge and > that I own the humanoid.org domain, just FYI. > I do not mind nor care in particular that you also call your project > humanoid too, though it may not e the best pick. > --- > Cordially > Philippe Ombredanne >> >> Regards, >> -- >> Rafał Rusin >> http://www.touk.pl >> http://top.touk.pl >> http://people.apache.org/~rr/ >> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@... > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@... > > -- Paul Fremantle Co-Founder and CTO, WSO2 Apache Synapse PMC Chair OASIS WS-RX TC Co-chair blog: http://pzf.fremantle.org paul@... "Oxygenating the Web Service Platform", www.wso2.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@... For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@... |
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Re: WS Human Tasks implementation
by Rafal Rusin
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2009/10/12 <pombredanne@...>:
>> I'm sending proposal for WS Human Task implementation, project is >> called Humanoid. >> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/HumanoidProposal > Congratulations! > Note that I have already have a project called humanoid on Sourceforge and > that I own the humanoid.org domain, just FYI. > I do not mind nor care in particular that you also call your project > humanoid too, though it may not e the best pick. Thanks for pointing it out. I'll rename it to HISE to avoid confusion. It will stand for Human Interactions Service Engine. Regards, -- Rafał Rusin http://www.touk.pl http://top.touk.pl http://people.apache.org/~rr/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@... For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@... |
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Re: WS Human Tasks implementation
by Rafal Rusin
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2009/10/13 Rafal Rusin <rafal.rusin@...>:
> 2009/10/12 <pombredanne@...>: >>> I'm sending proposal for WS Human Task implementation, project is >>> called Humanoid. >>> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/HumanoidProposal >> Congratulations! >> Note that I have already have a project called humanoid on Sourceforge and >> that I own the humanoid.org domain, just FYI. >> I do not mind nor care in particular that you also call your project >> humanoid too, though it may not e the best pick. > > Thanks for pointing it out. > I'll rename it to HISE to avoid confusion. It will stand for Human > Interactions Service Engine. I updated wiki here's link: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/HISEProposal Regards, -- Rafał Rusin http://www.touk.pl http://top.touk.pl http://people.apache.org/~rr/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@... For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@... |
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Re: WS Human Tasks implementation
by David Crossley
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Rafal Rusin wrote:
> Rafal Rusin <rafal.rusin@...>: > > > > Thanks for pointing it out. > > I'll rename it to HISE to avoid confusion. It will stand for Human > > Interactions Service Engine. > > I updated wiki here's link: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/HISEProposal When you think that the proposal is ready for discussion then send a copy as plain-text email with PROPOSAL in the subject. Discuss, and edit the wiki. When the discussion calms down, then send the final full proposal as plain-text again, with VOTE in the subject. See the Incubator docs and see past examples on this list. The process should then flow smoothly. -David --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@... For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@... |
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