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Wadi and unicast?

by Jason Warner :: Rate this Message:

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Hi all,

I tried poking around the documentation and google for an answer but came up dry.  Does wadi support unicast?  If so, how can I configure this?

Thanks!

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Re: Wadi and unicast?

by Gianny Damour-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Hello Jason,

WADI relies on Tribes for its inter-process communication. What you  
have done for the Geronimo native Tomcat clustering where cluster  
members are statically configured can also be done with WADI.

If you have a look at the source code of TribesDispatcher, you can  
see that one of the constructors takes a collection of Members;  this  
is a static list of cluster members:
https://svn.codehaus.org/wadi/trunk/wadi/wadi-tribes/src/main/java/ 
org/codehaus/wadi/tribes/TribesDispatcher.java

I also noticed that you have been able to switch off Tribes  
multicasting. Could you please explain me how this is done?  
Currently, you can configure a static list of cluster members however  
you cannot switch off multicasting.

Thanks,
Gianny

On 19/07/2008, at 2:14 AM, Jason Warner wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I tried poking around the documentation and google for an answer  
> but came up dry.  Does wadi support unicast?  If so, how can I  
> configure this?
>
> Thanks!
>
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Re: Wadi and unicast?

by Filip Hanik - Dev Lists :: Rate this Message:

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Gianny Damour wrote:

> Hello Jason,
>
> WADI relies on Tribes for its inter-process communication. What you
> have done for the Geronimo native Tomcat clustering where cluster
> members are statically configured can also be done with WADI.
>
> If you have a look at the source code of TribesDispatcher, you can see
> that one of the constructors takes a collection of Members;  this is a
> static list of cluster members:
> https://svn.codehaus.org/wadi/trunk/wadi/wadi-tribes/src/main/java/org/codehaus/wadi/tribes/TribesDispatcher.java 
>
>
> I also noticed that you have been able to switch off Tribes
> multicasting. Could you please explain me how this is done? Currently,
> you can configure a static list of cluster members however you cannot
> switch off multicasting.
yes, the Channel.java interface, start(int services) method takes a int
bit flag. If you only pass in the SND_TX and SND_RX flags, and not the
MBR_TX and MBR_RX then you don't get multicasting

Filip

>
>
> Thanks,
> Gianny
>
> On 19/07/2008, at 2:14 AM, Jason Warner wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I tried poking around the documentation and google for an answer but
>> came up dry.  Does wadi support unicast?  If so, how can I configure
>> this?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> --
>> ~Jason Warner
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Re: Wadi and unicast?

by Jason Warner :: Rate this Message:

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Thanks for the reply, Gianny.  I'll give that a try. 

Filip, I created a subclass for the purpose of disabling multicasting based on a response you made to a user post on the tomcat list.  Is that still the best way to handle this?  Are there plans to expose this functionality.

Thanks!

On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Filip Hanik - Dev Lists <devlists@...> wrote:
Gianny Damour wrote:
Hello Jason,

WADI relies on Tribes for its inter-process communication. What you have done for the Geronimo native Tomcat clustering where cluster members are statically configured can also be done with WADI.

If you have a look at the source code of TribesDispatcher, you can see that one of the constructors takes a collection of Members;  this is a static list of cluster members:
https://svn.codehaus.org/wadi/trunk/wadi/wadi-tribes/src/main/java/org/codehaus/wadi/tribes/TribesDispatcher.java

I also noticed that you have been able to switch off Tribes multicasting. Could you please explain me how this is done? Currently, you can configure a static list of cluster members however you cannot switch off multicasting.
yes, the Channel.java interface, start(int services) method takes a int bit flag. If you only pass in the SND_TX and SND_RX flags, and not the MBR_TX and MBR_RX then you don't get multicasting

Filip



Thanks,
Gianny

On 19/07/2008, at 2:14 AM, Jason Warner wrote:

Hi all,

I tried poking around the documentation and google for an answer but came up dry.  Does wadi support unicast?  If so, how can I configure this?

Thanks!

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Re: Wadi and unicast?

by Gianny Damour-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Hello Filip,

Thanks for the explanation.

Based on my tests, static members are returned by Channel.getMembers
() even if their are unavailable. Is there a way to alter the  
behaviour of Channel.getMembers() so that only live members are  
returned?

Thanks,
Gianny

On 21/07/2008, at 4:47 AM, Filip Hanik - Dev Lists wrote:

> Gianny Damour wrote:
>> Hello Jason,
>>
>> WADI relies on Tribes for its inter-process communication. What  
>> you have done for the Geronimo native Tomcat clustering where  
>> cluster members are statically configured can also be done with WADI.
>>
>> If you have a look at the source code of TribesDispatcher, you can  
>> see that one of the constructors takes a collection of Members;  
>> this is a static list of cluster members:
>> https://svn.codehaus.org/wadi/trunk/wadi/wadi-tribes/src/main/java/ 
>> org/codehaus/wadi/tribes/TribesDispatcher.java
>>
>> I also noticed that you have been able to switch off Tribes  
>> multicasting. Could you please explain me how this is done?  
>> Currently, you can configure a static list of cluster members  
>> however you cannot switch off multicasting.
> yes, the Channel.java interface, start(int services) method takes a  
> int bit flag. If you only pass in the SND_TX and SND_RX flags, and  
> not the MBR_TX and MBR_RX then you don't get multicasting
>
> Filip
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Gianny
>>
>> On 19/07/2008, at 2:14 AM, Jason Warner wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I tried poking around the documentation and google for an answer  
>>> but came up dry.  Does wadi support unicast?  If so, how can I  
>>> configure this?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> --
>>> ~Jason Warner
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Re: Wadi and unicast?

by Filip Hanik - Dev Lists :: Rate this Message:

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yes, you insert the TcpFailureDetector interceptor (use the
addInterceptor call) and that will validate all members using TCP.
if you want discovery of static members, then add the TcpPingInterceptor
before the TcpFailureDetector

Filip

Gianny Damour wrote:

> Hello Filip,
>
> Thanks for the explanation.
>
> Based on my tests, static members are returned by Channel.getMembers()
> even if their are unavailable. Is there a way to alter the behaviour
> of Channel.getMembers() so that only live members are returned?
>
> Thanks,
> Gianny
>
> On 21/07/2008, at 4:47 AM, Filip Hanik - Dev Lists wrote:
>
>> Gianny Damour wrote:
>>> Hello Jason,
>>>
>>> WADI relies on Tribes for its inter-process communication. What you
>>> have done for the Geronimo native Tomcat clustering where cluster
>>> members are statically configured can also be done with WADI.
>>>
>>> If you have a look at the source code of TribesDispatcher, you can
>>> see that one of the constructors takes a collection of Members;  
>>> this is a static list of cluster members:
>>> https://svn.codehaus.org/wadi/trunk/wadi/wadi-tribes/src/main/java/org/codehaus/wadi/tribes/TribesDispatcher.java 
>>>
>>>
>>> I also noticed that you have been able to switch off Tribes
>>> multicasting. Could you please explain me how this is done?
>>> Currently, you can configure a static list of cluster members
>>> however you cannot switch off multicasting.
>> yes, the Channel.java interface, start(int services) method takes a
>> int bit flag. If you only pass in the SND_TX and SND_RX flags, and
>> not the MBR_TX and MBR_RX then you don't get multicasting
>>
>> Filip
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Gianny
>>>
>>> On 19/07/2008, at 2:14 AM, Jason Warner wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I tried poking around the documentation and google for an answer
>>>> but came up dry.  Does wadi support unicast?  If so, how can I
>>>> configure this?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> ~Jason Warner
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Re: Wadi and unicast?

by Filip Hanik - Dev Lists :: Rate this Message:

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yes,the startup options have been added to trunk, and are proposed for a
backport into Tomcat 6.0.x

Filip

Jason Warner wrote:

> Thanks for the reply, Gianny.  I'll give that a try.
>
> Filip, I created a subclass for the purpose of disabling multicasting
> based on a response you made to a user post on the tomcat list.  Is
> that still the best way to handle this?  Are there plans to expose
> this functionality.
>
> Thanks!
>
> On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Filip Hanik - Dev Lists
> <devlists@... <mailto:devlists@...>> wrote:
>
>     Gianny Damour wrote:
>
>         Hello Jason,
>
>         WADI relies on Tribes for its inter-process communication.
>         What you have done for the Geronimo native Tomcat clustering
>         where cluster members are statically configured can also be
>         done with WADI.
>
>         If you have a look at the source code of TribesDispatcher, you
>         can see that one of the constructors takes a collection of
>         Members;  this is a static list of cluster members:
>         https://svn.codehaus.org/wadi/trunk/wadi/wadi-tribes/src/main/java/org/codehaus/wadi/tribes/TribesDispatcher.java
>
>
>         I also noticed that you have been able to switch off Tribes
>         multicasting. Could you please explain me how this is done?
>         Currently, you can configure a static list of cluster members
>         however you cannot switch off multicasting.
>
>     yes, the Channel.java interface, start(int services) method takes
>     a int bit flag. If you only pass in the SND_TX and SND_RX flags,
>     and not the MBR_TX and MBR_RX then you don't get multicasting
>
>     Filip
>
>
>
>         Thanks,
>         Gianny
>
>         On 19/07/2008, at 2:14 AM, Jason Warner wrote:
>
>             Hi all,
>
>             I tried poking around the documentation and google for an
>             answer but came up dry.  Does wadi support unicast?  If
>             so, how can I configure this?
>
>             Thanks!
>
>             --
>             ~Jason Warner
>
>
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Re: Wadi and unicast?

by Gianny Damour-2 :: Rate this Message:

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This is working as expected :) I also had to move the  
StaticMembershipInterceptor after the TcpFailureDetector to make it  
works (it is not possible to have this interceptor between the  
TcpFailure and the TcpPing interceptors).

Jason, if you have a look to the latest TribesDispatcher you will see  
that I added a disableMulticasting constructor parameter. If you  
fancy writing the necessary Geronimo integration code to use static  
member with unicast only let me know and I will deploy a SNAPSHOT.

Thanks,
Gianny

On 22/07/2008, at 1:15 AM, Filip Hanik - Dev Lists wrote:

> yes, you insert the TcpFailureDetector interceptor (use the  
> addInterceptor call) and that will validate all members using TCP.
> if you want discovery of static members, then add the  
> TcpPingInterceptor before the TcpFailureDetector
>
> Filip
>
> Gianny Damour wrote:
>> Hello Filip,
>>
>> Thanks for the explanation.
>>
>> Based on my tests, static members are returned by  
>> Channel.getMembers() even if their are unavailable. Is there a way  
>> to alter the behaviour of Channel.getMembers() so that only live  
>> members are returned?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Gianny
>>
>> On 21/07/2008, at 4:47 AM, Filip Hanik - Dev Lists wrote:
>>
>>> Gianny Damour wrote:
>>>> Hello Jason,
>>>>
>>>> WADI relies on Tribes for its inter-process communication. What  
>>>> you have done for the Geronimo native Tomcat clustering where  
>>>> cluster members are statically configured can also be done with  
>>>> WADI.
>>>>
>>>> If you have a look at the source code of TribesDispatcher, you  
>>>> can see that one of the constructors takes a collection of  
>>>> Members;  this is a static list of cluster members:
>>>> https://svn.codehaus.org/wadi/trunk/wadi/wadi-tribes/src/main/ 
>>>> java/org/codehaus/wadi/tribes/TribesDispatcher.java
>>>>
>>>> I also noticed that you have been able to switch off Tribes  
>>>> multicasting. Could you please explain me how this is done?  
>>>> Currently, you can configure a static list of cluster members  
>>>> however you cannot switch off multicasting.
>>> yes, the Channel.java interface, start(int services) method takes  
>>> a int bit flag. If you only pass in the SND_TX and SND_RX flags,  
>>> and not the MBR_TX and MBR_RX then you don't get multicasting
>>>
>>> Filip
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Gianny
>>>>
>>>> On 19/07/2008, at 2:14 AM, Jason Warner wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I tried poking around the documentation and google for an  
>>>>> answer but came up dry.  Does wadi support unicast?  If so, how  
>>>>> can I configure this?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> ~Jason Warner
>>>>
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Re: Wadi and unicast?

by Filip Hanik - Dev Lists :: Rate this Message:

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correct, the ordering of the interceptors is important to achieve what
you want.
afterall, the logic is very simple, the static interceptor, just
intercepts the getMembers() call, and adds the list of static to it, the
tcp failure detector intercepts the call and after the static returned,
it validates it.

so the order should be,

TcpPingInterceptor -> TcpFailureDetector -> StaticMembershipInterceptor

Filip

Gianny Damour wrote:

> This is working as expected :) I also had to move the
> StaticMembershipInterceptor after the TcpFailureDetector to make it
> works (it is not possible to have this interceptor between the
> TcpFailure and the TcpPing interceptors).
>
> Jason, if you have a look to the latest TribesDispatcher you will see
> that I added a disableMulticasting constructor parameter. If you fancy
> writing the necessary Geronimo integration code to use static member
> with unicast only let me know and I will deploy a SNAPSHOT.
>
> Thanks,
> Gianny
>
> On 22/07/2008, at 1:15 AM, Filip Hanik - Dev Lists wrote:
>
>> yes, you insert the TcpFailureDetector interceptor (use the
>> addInterceptor call) and that will validate all members using TCP.
>> if you want discovery of static members, then add the
>> TcpPingInterceptor before the TcpFailureDetector
>>
>> Filip
>>
>> Gianny Damour wrote:
>>> Hello Filip,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the explanation.
>>>
>>> Based on my tests, static members are returned by
>>> Channel.getMembers() even if their are unavailable. Is there a way
>>> to alter the behaviour of Channel.getMembers() so that only live
>>> members are returned?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Gianny
>>>
>>> On 21/07/2008, at 4:47 AM, Filip Hanik - Dev Lists wrote:
>>>
>>>> Gianny Damour wrote:
>>>>> Hello Jason,
>>>>>
>>>>> WADI relies on Tribes for its inter-process communication. What
>>>>> you have done for the Geronimo native Tomcat clustering where
>>>>> cluster members are statically configured can also be done with WADI.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you have a look at the source code of TribesDispatcher, you can
>>>>> see that one of the constructors takes a collection of Members;  
>>>>> this is a static list of cluster members:
>>>>> https://svn.codehaus.org/wadi/trunk/wadi/wadi-tribes/src/main/java/org/codehaus/wadi/tribes/TribesDispatcher.java 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I also noticed that you have been able to switch off Tribes
>>>>> multicasting. Could you please explain me how this is done?
>>>>> Currently, you can configure a static list of cluster members
>>>>> however you cannot switch off multicasting.
>>>> yes, the Channel.java interface, start(int services) method takes a
>>>> int bit flag. If you only pass in the SND_TX and SND_RX flags, and
>>>> not the MBR_TX and MBR_RX then you don't get multicasting
>>>>
>>>> Filip
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Gianny
>>>>>
>>>>> On 19/07/2008, at 2:14 AM, Jason Warner wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I tried poking around the documentation and google for an answer
>>>>>> but came up dry.  Does wadi support unicast?  If so, how can I
>>>>>> configure this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> ~Jason Warner
>>>>>
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Re: Wadi and unicast?

by Jason Warner :: Rate this Message:

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Hi Gianny,

I'm currently working to expose static membership for a tomcat cluster configuration.  As soon as I finish that, I'll be moving to do the same with wadi (if it's not implemented, I haven't looked at it yet). 

Thanks!

On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 4:47 AM, Gianny Damour <gianny.damour@...> wrote:
This is working as expected :) I also had to move the StaticMembershipInterceptor after the TcpFailureDetector to make it works (it is not possible to have this interceptor between the TcpFailure and the TcpPing interceptors).

Jason, if you have a look to the latest TribesDispatcher you will see that I added a disableMulticasting constructor parameter. If you fancy writing the necessary Geronimo integration code to use static member with unicast only let me know and I will deploy a SNAPSHOT.

Thanks,
Gianny


On 22/07/2008, at 1:15 AM, Filip Hanik - Dev Lists wrote:

yes, you insert the TcpFailureDetector interceptor (use the addInterceptor call) and that will validate all members using TCP.
if you want discovery of static members, then add the TcpPingInterceptor before the TcpFailureDetector

Filip

Gianny Damour wrote:
Hello Filip,

Thanks for the explanation.

Based on my tests, static members are returned by Channel.getMembers() even if their are unavailable. Is there a way to alter the behaviour of Channel.getMembers() so that only live members are returned?

Thanks,
Gianny

On 21/07/2008, at 4:47 AM, Filip Hanik - Dev Lists wrote:

Gianny Damour wrote:
Hello Jason,

WADI relies on Tribes for its inter-process communication. What you have done for the Geronimo native Tomcat clustering where cluster members are statically configured can also be done with WADI.

If you have a look at the source code of TribesDispatcher, you can see that one of the constructors takes a collection of Members;  this is a static list of cluster members:
https://svn.codehaus.org/wadi/trunk/wadi/wadi-tribes/src/main/java/org/codehaus/wadi/tribes/TribesDispatcher.java

I also noticed that you have been able to switch off Tribes multicasting. Could you please explain me how this is done? Currently, you can configure a static list of cluster members however you cannot switch off multicasting.
yes, the Channel.java interface, start(int services) method takes a int bit flag. If you only pass in the SND_TX and SND_RX flags, and not the MBR_TX and MBR_RX then you don't get multicasting

Filip


Thanks,
Gianny

On 19/07/2008, at 2:14 AM, Jason Warner wrote:

Hi all,

I tried poking around the documentation and google for an answer but came up dry.  Does wadi support unicast?  If so, how can I configure this?

Thanks!

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Re: Wadi and unicast?

by Filip Hanik - Dev Lists :: Rate this Message:

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hi Jason,
the static membership is exposed in the Tomcat configuration, you just
use the <Interceptor> element

Filip,

Jason Warner wrote:

> Hi Gianny,
>
> I'm currently working to expose static membership for a tomcat cluster
> configuration.  As soon as I finish that, I'll be moving to do the
> same with wadi (if it's not implemented, I haven't looked at it yet).
>
> Thanks!
>
> On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 4:47 AM, Gianny Damour
> <gianny.damour@... <mailto:gianny.damour@...>>
> wrote:
>
>     This is working as expected :) I also had to move the
>     StaticMembershipInterceptor after the TcpFailureDetector to make
>     it works (it is not possible to have this interceptor between the
>     TcpFailure and the TcpPing interceptors).
>
>     Jason, if you have a look to the latest TribesDispatcher you will
>     see that I added a disableMulticasting constructor parameter. If
>     you fancy writing the necessary Geronimo integration code to use
>     static member with unicast only let me know and I will deploy a
>     SNAPSHOT.
>
>     Thanks,
>     Gianny
>
>
>     On 22/07/2008, at 1:15 AM, Filip Hanik - Dev Lists wrote:
>
>         yes, you insert the TcpFailureDetector interceptor (use the
>         addInterceptor call) and that will validate all members using TCP.
>         if you want discovery of static members, then add the
>         TcpPingInterceptor before the TcpFailureDetector
>
>         Filip
>
>         Gianny Damour wrote:
>
>             Hello Filip,
>
>             Thanks for the explanation.
>
>             Based on my tests, static members are returned by
>             Channel.getMembers() even if their are unavailable. Is
>             there a way to alter the behaviour of Channel.getMembers()
>             so that only live members are returned?
>
>             Thanks,
>             Gianny
>
>             On 21/07/2008, at 4:47 AM, Filip Hanik - Dev Lists wrote:
>
>                 Gianny Damour wrote:
>
>                     Hello Jason,
>
>                     WADI relies on Tribes for its inter-process
>                     communication. What you have done for the Geronimo
>                     native Tomcat clustering where cluster members are
>                     statically configured can also be done with WADI.
>
>                     If you have a look at the source code of
>                     TribesDispatcher, you can see that one of the
>                     constructors takes a collection of Members;  this
>                     is a static list of cluster members:
>                     https://svn.codehaus.org/wadi/trunk/wadi/wadi-tribes/src/main/java/org/codehaus/wadi/tribes/TribesDispatcher.java
>
>                     I also noticed that you have been able to switch
>                     off Tribes multicasting. Could you please explain
>                     me how this is done? Currently, you can configure
>                     a static list of cluster members however you
>                     cannot switch off multicasting.
>
>                 yes, the Channel.java interface, start(int services)
>                 method takes a int bit flag. If you only pass in the
>                 SND_TX and SND_RX flags, and not the MBR_TX and MBR_RX
>                 then you don't get multicasting
>
>                 Filip
>
>
>
>                     Thanks,
>                     Gianny
>
>                     On 19/07/2008, at 2:14 AM, Jason Warner wrote:
>
>                         Hi all,
>
>                         I tried poking around the documentation and
>                         google for an answer but came up dry.  Does
>                         wadi support unicast?  If so, how can I
>                         configure this?
>
>                         Thanks!
>
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Re: Wadi and unicast?

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Filip,

The interceptor portion is already in place, but there is currently no way to define a static member.  The interceptor gbean needs to be modified to be able to handle static members.  At least, that's the understanding I have of how static configuration works.  Please let me know if I am way off base.

Thanks!

On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Filip Hanik - Dev Lists <devlists@...> wrote:
hi Jason,
the static membership is exposed in the Tomcat configuration, you just use the <Interceptor> element

Filip,

Jason Warner wrote:
Hi Gianny,

I'm currently working to expose static membership for a tomcat cluster configuration.  As soon as I finish that, I'll be moving to do the same with wadi (if it's not implemented, I haven't looked at it yet).
Thanks!

On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 4:47 AM, Gianny Damour <gianny.damour@... <mailto:gianny.damour@...>> wrote:

   This is working as expected :) I also had to move the
   StaticMembershipInterceptor after the TcpFailureDetector to make
   it works (it is not possible to have this interceptor between the
   TcpFailure and the TcpPing interceptors).

   Jason, if you have a look to the latest TribesDispatcher you will
   see that I added a disableMulticasting constructor parameter. If
   you fancy writing the necessary Geronimo integration code to use
   static member with unicast only let me know and I will deploy a
   SNAPSHOT.

   Thanks,
   Gianny


   On 22/07/2008, at 1:15 AM, Filip Hanik - Dev Lists wrote:

       yes, you insert the TcpFailureDetector interceptor (use the
       addInterceptor call) and that will validate all members using TCP.
       if you want discovery of static members, then add the
       TcpPingInterceptor before the TcpFailureDetector

       Filip

       Gianny Damour wrote:

           Hello Filip,

           Thanks for the explanation.

           Based on my tests, static members are returned by
           Channel.getMembers() even if their are unavailable. Is
           there a way to alter the behaviour of Channel.getMembers()
           so that only live members are returned?

           Thanks,
           Gianny

           On 21/07/2008, at 4:47 AM, Filip Hanik - Dev Lists wrote:

               Gianny Damour wrote:

                   Hello Jason,

                   WADI relies on Tribes for its inter-process
                   communication. What you have done for the Geronimo
                   native Tomcat clustering where cluster members are
                   statically configured can also be done with WADI.

                   If you have a look at the source code of
                   TribesDispatcher, you can see that one of the
                   constructors takes a collection of Members;  this
                   is a static list of cluster members:
                   https://svn.codehaus.org/wadi/trunk/wadi/wadi-tribes/src/main/java/org/codehaus/wadi/tribes/TribesDispatcher.java

                   I also noticed that you have been able to switch
                   off Tribes multicasting. Could you please explain
                   me how this is done? Currently, you can configure
                   a static list of cluster members however you
                   cannot switch off multicasting.

               yes, the Channel.java interface, start(int services)
               method takes a int bit flag. If you only pass in the
               SND_TX and SND_RX flags, and not the MBR_TX and MBR_RX
               then you don't get multicasting

               Filip



                   Thanks,
                   Gianny

                   On 19/07/2008, at 2:14 AM, Jason Warner wrote:

                       Hi all,

                       I tried poking around the documentation and
                       google for an answer but came up dry.  Does
                       wadi support unicast?  If so, how can I
                       configure this?

                       Thanks!

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Re: Wadi and unicast?

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aah, you're talking Geronimo, not Tomcat :)

got it

Filip

Jason Warner wrote:

> Filip,
>
> The interceptor portion is already in place, but there is currently no
> way to define a static member.  The interceptor gbean needs to be
> modified to be able to handle static members.  At least, that's the
> understanding I have of how static configuration works.  Please let me
> know if I am way off base.
>
> Thanks!
>
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Filip Hanik - Dev Lists
> <devlists@... <mailto:devlists@...>> wrote:
>
>     hi Jason,
>     the static membership is exposed in the Tomcat configuration, you
>     just use the <Interceptor> element
>
>     Filip,
>
>     Jason Warner wrote:
>
>         Hi Gianny,
>
>         I'm currently working to expose static membership for a tomcat
>         cluster configuration.  As soon as I finish that, I'll be
>         moving to do the same with wadi (if it's not implemented, I
>         haven't looked at it yet).
>         Thanks!
>
>         On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 4:47 AM, Gianny Damour
>         <gianny.damour@...
>         <mailto:gianny.damour@...>
>         <mailto:gianny.damour@...
>         <mailto:gianny.damour@...>>> wrote:
>
>            This is working as expected :) I also had to move the
>            StaticMembershipInterceptor after the TcpFailureDetector to
>         make
>            it works (it is not possible to have this interceptor
>         between the
>            TcpFailure and the TcpPing interceptors).
>
>            Jason, if you have a look to the latest TribesDispatcher
>         you will
>            see that I added a disableMulticasting constructor
>         parameter. If
>            you fancy writing the necessary Geronimo integration code
>         to use
>            static member with unicast only let me know and I will deploy a
>            SNAPSHOT.
>
>            Thanks,
>            Gianny
>
>
>            On 22/07/2008, at 1:15 AM, Filip Hanik - Dev Lists wrote:
>
>                yes, you insert the TcpFailureDetector interceptor (use the
>                addInterceptor call) and that will validate all members
>         using TCP.
>                if you want discovery of static members, then add the
>                TcpPingInterceptor before the TcpFailureDetector
>
>                Filip
>
>                Gianny Damour wrote:
>
>                    Hello Filip,
>
>                    Thanks for the explanation.
>
>                    Based on my tests, static members are returned by
>                    Channel.getMembers() even if their are unavailable. Is
>                    there a way to alter the behaviour of
>         Channel.getMembers()
>                    so that only live members are returned?
>
>                    Thanks,
>                    Gianny
>
>                    On 21/07/2008, at 4:47 AM, Filip Hanik - Dev Lists
>         wrote:
>
>                        Gianny Damour wrote:
>
>                            Hello Jason,
>
>                            WADI relies on Tribes for its inter-process
>                            communication. What you have done for the
>         Geronimo
>                            native Tomcat clustering where cluster
>         members are
>                            statically configured can also be done with
>         WADI.
>
>                            If you have a look at the source code of
>                            TribesDispatcher, you can see that one of the
>                            constructors takes a collection of Members;
>          this
>                            is a static list of cluster members:
>                          
>          https://svn.codehaus.org/wadi/trunk/wadi/wadi-tribes/src/main/java/org/codehaus/wadi/tribes/TribesDispatcher.java
>
>                            I also noticed that you have been able to
>         switch
>                            off Tribes multicasting. Could you please
>         explain
>                            me how this is done? Currently, you can
>         configure
>                            a static list of cluster members however you
>                            cannot switch off multicasting.
>
>                        yes, the Channel.java interface, start(int
>         services)
>                        method takes a int bit flag. If you only pass
>         in the
>                        SND_TX and SND_RX flags, and not the MBR_TX and
>         MBR_RX
>                        then you don't get multicasting
>
>                        Filip
>
>
>
>                            Thanks,
>                            Gianny
>
>                            On 19/07/2008, at 2:14 AM, Jason Warner wrote:
>
>                                Hi all,
>
>                                I tried poking around the documentation and
>                                google for an answer but came up dry.  Does
>                                wadi support unicast?  If so, how can I
>                                configure this?
>
>                                Thanks!
>
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Re: Wadi and unicast?

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Hi Gianny,

I've finished up pretty much all my tomcat stuff and I've turned my attention to wadi.  Have you given anymore thought to pushing out a snapshot that includes the new TrbeDispacther constructor?

Thanks!

Jason

On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 4:47 AM, Gianny Damour <gianny.damour@...> wrote:
This is working as expected :) I also had to move the StaticMembershipInterceptor after the TcpFailureDetector to make it works (it is not possible to have this interceptor between the TcpFailure and the TcpPing interceptors).

Jason, if you have a look to the latest TribesDispatcher you will see that I added a disableMulticasting constructor parameter. If you fancy writing the necessary Geronimo integration code to use static member with unicast only let me know and I will deploy a SNAPSHOT.

Thanks,
Gianny


On 22/07/2008, at 1:15 AM, Filip Hanik - Dev Lists wrote:

yes, you insert the TcpFailureDetector interceptor (use the addInterceptor call) and that will validate all members using TCP.
if you want discovery of static members, then add the TcpPingInterceptor before the TcpFailureDetector

Filip

Gianny Damour wrote:
Hello Filip,

Thanks for the explanation.

Based on my tests, static members are returned by Channel.getMembers() even if their are unavailable. Is there a way to alter the behaviour of Channel.getMembers() so that only live members are returned?

Thanks,
Gianny

On 21/07/2008, at 4:47 AM, Filip Hanik - Dev Lists wrote:

Gianny Damour wrote:
Hello Jason,

WADI relies on Tribes for its inter-process communication. What you have done for the Geronimo native Tomcat clustering where cluster members are statically configured can also be done with WADI.

If you have a look at the source code of TribesDispatcher, you can see that one of the constructors takes a collection of Members;  this is a static list of cluster members:
https://svn.codehaus.org/wadi/trunk/wadi/wadi-tribes/src/main/java/org/codehaus/wadi/tribes/TribesDispatcher.java

I also noticed that you have been able to switch off Tribes multicasting. Could you please explain me how this is done? Currently, you can configure a static list of cluster members however you cannot switch off multicasting.
yes, the Channel.java interface, start(int services) method takes a int bit flag. If you only pass in the SND_TX and SND_RX flags, and not the MBR_TX and MBR_RX then you don't get multicasting

Filip


Thanks,
Gianny

On 19/07/2008, at 2:14 AM, Jason Warner wrote:

Hi all,

I tried poking around the documentation and google for an answer but came up dry.  Does wadi support unicast?  If so, how can I configure this?

Thanks!

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Re: Wadi and unicast?

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Hello Jason,

I have just pushed brand new snapshots with the new TrbesDispacther  
constructor.

Let me know if you have any integration issues!

Thanks,
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Hi Gianny,

Is there a way to specify the port that a wadi instance will use?  It seems that the port is dynamically chosen starting at 4000.  IT makes it a little difficult when defining more than one static implementation on a machine. 

Thanks!

On 8/14/08, Gianny Damour <gianny.damour@...> wrote:
Hello Jason,

I have just pushed brand new snapshots with the new TrbesDispacther constructor.

Let me know if you have any integration issues!

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Re: Wadi and unicast?

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Hello Jason,

I have just deployed a new wadi-tribes snapshot which allows the  
configuration of the port you are talking about and of the Tribes  
multicasting properties. Here is the updated constructor:

     public TribesDispatcher(String clusterName,
             String localPeerName,
             EndPoint endPoint,
             Collection<StaticMember> staticMembers,
             boolean disableMulticasting,
             Properties mcastServiceProperties,
             int receiverPort) {

Thanks,
Gianny

On 23/08/2008, at 5:20 AM, Jason Warner wrote:

> Hi Gianny,
>
> Is there a way to specify the port that a wadi instance will use?  
> It seems that the port is dynamically chosen starting at 4000.  IT  
> makes it a little difficult when defining more than one static  
> implementation on a machine.
>
> Thanks!
>
> On 8/14/08, Gianny Damour <gianny.damour@...> wrote:  
> Hello Jason,
>
> I have just pushed brand new snapshots with the new TrbesDispacther  
> constructor.
>
> Let me know if you have any integration issues!
>
> Thanks,
> Gianny
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Thanks Gianny!  Another quick question, does wadi make use of the UniqueId attribute of the static member?  I accidentally configured my servers incorrectly with respect to the UniqueId attribute, but it didn't really seem to affect anything.

On 8/23/08, Gianny Damour <gianny.damour@...> wrote:
Hello Jason,

I have just deployed a new wadi-tribes snapshot which allows the configuration of the port you are talking about and of the Tribes multicasting properties. Here is the updated constructor:

   public TribesDispatcher(String clusterName,
           String localPeerName,
           EndPoint endPoint,
           Collection<StaticMember> staticMembers,
           boolean disableMulticasting,
           Properties mcastServiceProperties,
           int receiverPort) {

Thanks,
Gianny


On 23/08/2008, at 5:20 AM, Jason Warner wrote:

Hi Gianny,

Is there a way to specify the port that a wadi instance will use?  It seems that the port is dynamically chosen starting at 4000.  IT makes it a little difficult when defining more than one static implementation on a machine.

Thanks!

On 8/14/08, Gianny Damour <gianny.damour@...> wrote: Hello Jason,

I have just pushed brand new snapshots with the new TrbesDispacther constructor.

Let me know if you have any integration issues!

Thanks,
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Re: Wadi and unicast?

by Gianny Damour-2 :: Rate this Message:

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Hi Jason,

WADI does not make use of UniqueId. Tribes may be using it  
internally. Based on the look of MemberImpl.equals(), I think that  
even if you have configured the same UniqueId for all your servers,  
the servers will actually be distinct as host and port are distinct.

Thanks,
Gianny

On 26/08/2008, at 7:48 AM, Jason Warner wrote:

> Thanks Gianny!  Another quick question, does wadi make use of the  
> UniqueId attribute of the static member?  I accidentally configured  
> my servers incorrectly with respect to the UniqueId attribute, but  
> it didn't really seem to affect anything.
>
> On 8/23/08, Gianny Damour <gianny.damour@...> wrote:  
> Hello Jason,
>
> I have just deployed a new wadi-tribes snapshot which allows the  
> configuration of the port you are talking about and of the Tribes  
> multicasting properties. Here is the updated constructor:
>
>    public TribesDispatcher(String clusterName,
>            String localPeerName,
>            EndPoint endPoint,
>            Collection<StaticMember> staticMembers,
>            boolean disableMulticasting,
>            Properties mcastServiceProperties,
>            int receiverPort) {
>
> Thanks,
> Gianny
>
>
> On 23/08/2008, at 5:20 AM, Jason Warner wrote:
>
> Hi Gianny,
>
> Is there a way to specify the port that a wadi instance will use?  
> It seems that the port is dynamically chosen starting at 4000.  IT  
> makes it a little difficult when defining more than one static  
> implementation on a machine.
>
> Thanks!
>
> On 8/14/08, Gianny Damour <gianny.damour@...> wrote:  
> Hello Jason,
>
> I have just pushed brand new snapshots with the new TrbesDispacther  
> constructor.
>
> Let me know if you have any integration issues!
>
> Thanks,
> Gianny
>
>
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Re: Wadi and unicast?

by Filip Hanik - Dev Lists :: Rate this Message:

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correct, the UniqueId is provided for detection of the "split brain
problem", for dynamic members, it allows the system to know if the
process was restarted/crashed or if it just got disconnected from the
cluster.

Filip

Gianny Damour wrote:

> Hi Jason,
>
> WADI does not make use of UniqueId. Tribes may be using it internally.
> Based on the look of MemberImpl.equals(), I think that even if you
> have configured the same UniqueId for all your servers, the servers
> will actually be distinct as host and port are distinct.
>
> Thanks,
> Gianny
>
> On 26/08/2008, at 7:48 AM, Jason Warner wrote:
>
>> Thanks Gianny!  Another quick question, does wadi make use of the
>> UniqueId attribute of the static member?  I accidentally configured
>> my servers incorrectly with respect to the UniqueId attribute, but it
>> didn't really seem to affect anything.
>>
>> On 8/23/08, Gianny Damour <gianny.damour@...> wrote:
>> Hello Jason,
>>
>> I have just deployed a new wadi-tribes snapshot which allows the
>> configuration of the port you are talking about and of the Tribes
>> multicasting properties. Here is the updated constructor:
>>
>>    public TribesDispatcher(String clusterName,
>>            String localPeerName,
>>            EndPoint endPoint,
>>            Collection<StaticMember> staticMembers,
>>            boolean disableMulticasting,
>>            Properties mcastServiceProperties,
>>            int receiverPort) {
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Gianny
>>
>>
>> On 23/08/2008, at 5:20 AM, Jason Warner wrote:
>>
>> Hi Gianny,
>>
>> Is there a way to specify the port that a wadi instance will use?  It
>> seems that the port is dynamically chosen starting at 4000.  IT makes
>> it a little difficult when defining more than one static
>> implementation on a machine.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> On 8/14/08, Gianny Damour <gianny.damour@...> wrote:
>> Hello Jason,
>>
>> I have just pushed brand new snapshots with the new TrbesDispacther
>> constructor.
>>
>> Let me know if you have any integration issues!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Gianny
>>
>>
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