Want a Pentium SBC with no bells or whistles

[AGSCalabrese]

I would like to find a Pentium ( or equivalent X86 ) Single Board  
computer that has RAM, Flash ( or a flash slot ), Ethernet 100 or  
1000, and USB 2.0 support.    Any suggestions ?
( no graphics, sound, PATA, SATA or other stuff )

Gus

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[William "Chops" Westfield]

On Jun 19, 2009, at 9:34 PM, AGSCalabrese wrote:

> I would like to find a Pentium ( or equivalent X86 ) Single Board
> computer that has RAM, Flash ( or a flash slot ), Ethernet 100 or
> 1000, and USB 2.0 support.    Any suggestions ?
> ( no graphics, sound, PATA, SATA or other stuff )

In general, really hard to find.  PATA/SATA tends to be included on  
the same chip as other important subsystems.  You can look for PC104  
stuff, or "picoATX."  There are quite a lot of people selling assorted  
very small x86 systems, but they tend to be full PC compatibles.

You can try these guys.  They've been advertising in CircuitCellar for  
ages (but I have no personal experience with them...)
http://www.embeddedarm.com/products/x86-sbc.php

BillW

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[solarwind]

On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 5:34 AM, AGSCalabrese<agscal@...> wrote:
> I would like to find a Pentium ( or equivalent X86 ) Single Board
> computer that has RAM, Flash ( or a flash slot ), Ethernet 100 or
> 1000, and USB 2.0 support.    Any suggestions ?
> ( no graphics, sound, PATA, SATA or other stuff )

Just out of curiosity, what is your application?

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[arocholl]

I have excelent references about Kontron SBCs, although never tried myself.
You may have what you need here
http://es.kontron.com/products/computeronmodules/dimmpc/
2009/6/20 AGSCalabrese <agscal@...>

>
>
> I would like to find a Pentium ( or equivalent X86 ) Single Board
> computer that has RAM, Flash ( or a flash slot ), Ethernet 100 or
> 1000, and USB 2.0 support.    Any suggestions ?
> ( no graphics, sound, PATA, SATA or other stuff )
>
> Gus
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[Herbert Graf-5]

On Fri, 2009-06-19 at 22:34 -0600, AGSCalabrese wrote:
>
> I would like to find a Pentium ( or equivalent X86 ) Single Board  
> computer that has RAM, Flash ( or a flash slot ), Ethernet 100 or  
> 1000, and USB 2.0 support.    Any suggestions ?
> ( no graphics, sound, PATA, SATA or other stuff )

Any reason you are focusing on x86? The moment you open up to other
architectures the number of cheap options skyrockets.

TTYL

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[AGSCalabrese]

My software choices require that I use X86.  I am combining a higher  
level language with C.
The application will be a smart camera that is extremely easy for  
neophytes to configure.
Gus

> On Jun 20, 2009, at 8:39 AM, Herbert Graf wrote:
>
> On Fri, 2009-06-19 at 22:34 -0600, AGSCalabrese wrote:
>>
>> I would like to find a Pentium ( or equivalent X86 ) Single Board
>> computer that has RAM, Flash ( or a flash slot ), Ethernet 100 or
>> 1000, and USB 2.0 support.    Any suggestions ?
>> ( no graphics, sound, PATA, SATA or other stuff )
>
> Any reason you are focusing on x86? The moment you open up to other
> architectures the number of cheap options skyrockets.
>
> TTYL
>

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[Xiaofan Chen]

On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 12:34 PM, AGSCalabrese<agscal@...> wrote:
>
>
> I would like to find a Pentium ( or equivalent X86 ) Single Board
> computer that has RAM, Flash ( or a flash slot ), Ethernet 100 or
> 1000, and USB 2.0 support.    Any suggestions ?
> ( no graphics, sound, PATA, SATA or other stuff )
>

http://www.embeddedpc.net has some links.

ICOP seems to have quite some offerings as well.
http://www.icop.com.tw/pdList.aspx?c=18&pid=4



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[Alex Harford]

We have had good experiences with Kontron.

On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 3:43 AM, Ariel Rocholl<foros@...> wrote:
> I have excelent references about Kontron SBCs, although never tried myself.
> You may have what you need here
> http://es.kontron.com/products/computeronmodules/dimmpc/
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[Andrew Burchill-2]

On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 1:51 AM, AGSCalabrese <agscal@...> wrote:

> My software choices require that I use X86.  I am combining a higher
> level language with C.
> The application will be a smart camera that is extremely easy for
> neophytes to configure.
> Gus
>
> > On Jun 20, 2009, at 8:39 AM, Herbert Graf wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 2009-06-19 at 22:34 -0600, AGSCalabrese wrote:
> >>
> >> I would like to find a Pentium ( or equivalent X86 ) Single Board
> >> computer that has RAM, Flash ( or a flash slot ), Ethernet 100 or
> >> 1000, and USB 2.0 support.    Any suggestions ?
> >> ( no graphics, sound, PATA, SATA or other stuff )
> >
> > Any reason you are focusing on x86? The moment you open up to other
> > architectures the number of cheap options skyrockets.
> >
> > TTYL
> >
>

I'm not biased, but I agree, loose the x86 anchor, there is plenty of
support
for other platforms that play well in the sandpit... from the docpages
<quote>

For new development, the Gumstix supports the following languages out of the
box:

   - C
   - sh scripting
   - C++ (Buildroot revision 1444 and later)

The following languages can be easily enabled in the
Buildroot<http://docwiki.gumstix.org/index.php/Buildroot>:


   - C++
   - Java <http://docwiki.gumstix.org/index.php/Java>
   - Awk
   - Perl (incarnated as MicroPerl)
   - Python <http://docwiki.gumstix.org/index.php/Python>
   - Tcl

</quote>
http://www.gumstix.net/


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[Eoin Ross]

I was going to say http://www.jkmicro.com but they are lower spec CPUs from what I recall.
www.advantech.com maybe

>>> AGSCalabrese <agscal@...> 20 Jun 09 00:34:42 >>>


I would like to find a Pentium ( or equivalent X86 ) Single Board  
computer that has RAM, Flash ( or a flash slot ), Ethernet 100 or  
1000, and USB 2.0 support.    Any suggestions ?
( no graphics, sound, PATA, SATA or other stuff )

Gus

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[Don McKenzie]

William "Chops" Westfield wrote:

You can try these guys.  They've been advertising in CircuitCellar for  
ages (but I have no personal experience with them...)
http://www.embeddedarm.com/products/x86-sbc.php
BillW

Looking at the price of some of these SBC's, Im starting to think that the EEE PC 701 Netbook family would be ideal for an x86 platform. 2G version especially, and good pricing would bring them down under a lot of SBC prices found. Ebay may bring good results too.

And you will get all of what you need, and a lot more that you don't, at the same price.
Just the way of the world today.

Cheers Don...

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[M.L.-2]

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 12:05 AM, Don McKenzie<support2009@...> wrote:

>
>
> William "Chops" Westfield wrote:
>>
>> You can try these guys.  They've been advertising in CircuitCellar for
>> ages (but I have no personal experience with them...)
>> http://www.embeddedarm.com/products/x86-sbc.php
>> BillW
>>
>
> Looking at the price of some of these SBC's, Im starting to think that the
> EEE PC 701 Netbook family would be ideal for an x86 platform. 2G version
> especially, and good pricing would bring them down under a lot of SBC prices
> found. Ebay may bring good results too.
>
> And you will get all of what you need, and a lot more that you don't, at the
> same price.
> Just the way of the world today.

I don't know what the OP was looking for but there are the PC Engines boards:
<http://www.pcengines.ch/alix.htm>
They're all around $100.
-
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[AGSCalabrese]

Those look good !
Gus

> On Jul 2, 2009, at 7:02 AM, M.L. wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 12:05 AM, Don McKenzie<support2009@...
> > wrote:
>>
>>
>> William "Chops" Westfield wrote:
>>>
>>> You can try these guys.  They've been advertising in CircuitCellar  
>>> for
>>> ages (but I have no personal experience with them...)
>>> http://www.embeddedarm.com/products/x86-sbc.php
>>> BillW
>>>
>>
>> Looking at the price of some of these SBC's, Im starting to think  
>> that the
>> EEE PC 701 Netbook family would be ideal for an x86 platform. 2G  
>> version
>> especially, and good pricing would bring them down under a lot of  
>> SBC prices
>> found. Ebay may bring good results too.
>>
>> And you will get all of what you need, and a lot more that you  
>> don't, at the
>> same price.
>> Just the way of the world today.
>
> I don't know what the OP was looking for but there are the PC  
> Engines boards:
> <http://www.pcengines.ch/alix.htm>
> They're all around $100.
> -
> Martin
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[Dr Skip]

I'm sure others before me have wanted something like this, and I can't really
come up with search terms unique enough to get reasonable results, so I'm
turning to the list.

I'm looking for something as simple as a Perl script to something as a
stand-alone windows program that will take web pages (locally stored perhaps)
and 'compile' them into a single document. Canon sold one at one time (Win95
era) - it would do it as whole pages, and shrink to fit (so it must have done
them as images, but they were very clear), and I think you could tell it how
deep you wanted or by individual pages. Evernote is close, but it is very
limited in formatting output or editing. I have downloading down, so it can
just work locally and not include tcpip code.

Basically, I need to take various docs which are in a format which has a "go to
next page" link at the bottom of each page and link them into one doc for
printing a pdf. Now, this could get ugly too, so an added bennie would be to
only pull text (and maybe images linked to within the text) and create one html
or pdf or text doc from them. The source html can be in a directory (maybe
without links to each other, or ignored) so everything in the directory gets
catted together, or it could follow links (local or on a net). I'd even be
willing to piece something together at this point with multiple passes. We've
got docs from way-back (and not so way back) when it was cool to put a
paragraph on one page and make the user click to go forward. Very annoying
IMHO. Now pdf docs are needed (I guess I'm not the only one who got annoyed). I
would rather not have to find someone to retype, or go through almost as much
writing a custom piece of s/w for this...

Thanks in advance.
Skip
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Dr Skip <drskip@...> wrote:

> 'compile' them into a single document.

Firefox can save ('print') pages to either postscript or PDF. Pstools can
take postscripts and 'bind' them together. Not sure those tools exist
under Windows though.

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[Tamas Rudnai]

I am not sure what do you want exactly, but there are tools for converting
HTML to PDF (for example you can look for the phrase 'html2pdf' on google).
Also you may can convert the entire page with all pics and everything into a
CHM very easily with Internet Explorer, which then can be converted to PDF
again or you can use a CHM viewer, or the IE itself to read the document. Or
with few cheats you may can try doxyGen to generate PDF or PS. Or you may
can try to open the page with OpenOffice and export it to some other formats
(like PDF or DOC).

Tamas



On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 2:12 AM, Dr Skip <drskip@...> wrote:

> I'm sure others before me have wanted something like this, and I can't
> really
> come up with search terms unique enough to get reasonable results, so I'm
> turning to the list.
>
> I'm looking for something as simple as a Perl script to something as a
> stand-alone windows program that will take web pages (locally stored
> perhaps)
> and 'compile' them into a single document. Canon sold one at one time
> (Win95
> era) - it would do it as whole pages, and shrink to fit (so it must have
> done
> them as images, but they were very clear), and I think you could tell it
> how
> deep you wanted or by individual pages. Evernote is close, but it is very
> limited in formatting output or editing. I have downloading down, so it can
> just work locally and not include tcpip code.
>
> Basically, I need to take various docs which are in a format which has a
> "go to
> next page" link at the bottom of each page and link them into one doc for
> printing a pdf. Now, this could get ugly too, so an added bennie would be
> to
> only pull text (and maybe images linked to within the text) and create one
> html
> or pdf or text doc from them. The source html can be in a directory (maybe
> without links to each other, or ignored) so everything in the directory
> gets
> catted together, or it could follow links (local or on a net). I'd even be
> willing to piece something together at this point with multiple passes.
> We've
> got docs from way-back (and not so way back) when it was cool to put a
> paragraph on one page and make the user click to go forward. Very annoying
> IMHO. Now pdf docs are needed (I guess I'm not the only one who got
> annoyed). I
> would rather not have to find someone to retype, or go through almost as
> much
> writing a custom piece of s/w for this...
>
> Thanks in advance.
> Skip
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[Dr Skip]

I've probably got thousands of pages, so I'm looking at pointing some code at a
directory with a few hundred html docs in it and getting one doc of some type
in the end. Since some 'books' contain a lot of redundant header 'stuff' on
each web page, it would be nice to drop all that in the process too, as a wish ;)

Firefox in Windows doesn't have a pdf option, and I'm looking for a
semi-automatic way to do this. If I have to do the same set of clicks and
strokes thousands of times (as would be needed for a page-by-page save or
print), I'd end up in the funny farm...

Skip

Tamas Rudnai wrote:

> I am not sure what do you want exactly, but there are tools for converting
> HTML to PDF (for example you can look for the phrase 'html2pdf' on google).
> Also you may can convert the entire page with all pics and everything into a
> CHM very easily with Internet Explorer, which then can be converted to PDF
> again or you can use a CHM viewer, or the IE itself to read the document. Or
> with few cheats you may can try doxyGen to generate PDF or PS. Or you may
> can try to open the page with OpenOffice and export it to some other formats
> (like PDF or DOC).
>
> Tamas
>

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[Alan B. Pearce-2]

>I'm looking for something as simple as a Perl script to
>something as a stand-alone windows program that will take
>web pages (locally stored perhaps) and 'compile' them
>into a single document.

You mean the way IE8 will save a web page as a .mht file, with pictures and
all in it? I don't know how compressed it is.

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[Peter Restall]

On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 21:12:44 -0400, Dr Skip wrote:

> I'm looking for something as simple as a Perl script to something as a
> stand-alone windows program that will take web pages (locally stored
> perhaps)
> and 'compile' them into a single document. Canon sold one at one time

As Tamas has mentioned, this can be done with CHMs in Windows.  I think the
HTMLHelp tool from Microsoft compiles these - but I've only ever used that
utility as part of the Sandcastle toolchain (auto-documents .NET XML commented
code), so don't know how flexible it is.  You'll need to grab it from the MS
website - there's two of them IIRC, version 1 and version 2.  Hope this
helps.

Regards,

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[Dr Skip]

Alan B. Pearce wrote:
>
> You mean the way IE8 will save a web page as a .mht file, with pictures and
> all in it? I don't know how compressed it is.
>

Not sure about IE8, but Firefox with addons will do that, but it's a page at a
time. There are other addons that suck web sites or dirs too, but they don't
create one file with all the pages concatenated together.

> As Tamas has mentioned, this can be done with CHMs in Windows.  I think the
> HTMLHelp tool from Microsoft compiles these - but I've only ever used that
> utility as part of the Sandcastle toolchain (auto-documents .NET XML commented
> code), so don't know how flexible it is.  You'll need to grab it from the MS
> website - there's two of them IIRC, version 1 and version 2.  Hope this
> helps.
>
> Regards,
>
> Pete Restall

I'll try to take a look at this, but I suspect it will be view a page - save
the page - give the page a name, etc, go to next page and do the same, etc.

I may never be heard from again.... :-O

Optimally, I need something that will cat a directory worth of html files with
some limited intelligence to strip out headers and metadata and such so the
whole lot would end up as one file that is readable. Maybe a <printing> page
break between what used to be the individual pages.

Even a command line tool. I'm no Perl expert, but I think Perl would be well
suited (but beyond my abilities these days). It would have to incorporate a lot
of html knowledge though to selectively strip out stuff as it wrote the one big
file as a one file html doc...

-Skip
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