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Was Sunday sail: Now electric motor lift
by Bob F.
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Lee, if your bar is not level, you may have cracked one of the
bearings on the end (which guides it in the tract). They are plastic. This happen to my boat after it was struck from the stern. Motor had to come off to replace the bearings. Bob F. __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ |
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Now electric motor lift
by Rob Lowe
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Lee,
Any progress on the motor lift? - rob -----Original Message----- From: rhodes22-list-bounces@... [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Robert Fuller Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 4:21 PM To: rhodes22-list@... Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Was Sunday sail: Now electric motor lift Lee, if your bar is not level, you may have cracked one of the bearings on the end (which guides it in the tract). They are plastic. This happen to my boat after it was struck from the stern. Motor had to come off to replace the bearings. Bob F. __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ |
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Re: Now electric motor lift
by Leland
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Rob,
Don't know if these pictures will help much. Not any better at photography than I am at sailing. Pictures of motor lift: At+Ease+10-5-09+019.jpg At+Ease+10-5-09+021.jpg Picture of bar that fits into the track: At+Ease+10-5-09+023.jpg Picture of lift from above with motor down. If you continue operating the winch (for a millisecond) after the motor is all the way down, the belt won't have any tension on it. Thanks to your help, I pulled the belt to starboard and discovered that it helped center the lift in the track while raising. After further experimentation I think the winch is barely adequate to lift my 135 lb. motor, the track needs to be well-greased (siliconed), and my battery needs to be fully charged. At+Ease+10-5-09+022.jpg Picture of motor mount slightly off-center in track. On Alice's lift, the bar was so off-center that it slipped out of the track and dropped the motor into the water. At+Ease+10-5-09+020.jpg Thanks for your help! Lee 1986 Rhodes22 At Ease Kent Island, MD |
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Re: Now electric motor lift
by Rob Lowe
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Anyone who has one of these see any problems?
Lee, The one photo shows the strap coming out of the stern mounted slot and the slot is cracked. It that because of the install or has the strap slipped to the side and caused that slot to crack? 135 pounds is a lot of motor too, wonder what the rating on that lift is? - rob -----Original Message----- From: rhodes22-list-bounces@... [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Leland Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 10:38 AM To: rhodes22-list@... Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Now electric motor lift Rob, Don't know if these pictures will help much. Not any better at photography than I am at sailing. Pictures of motor lift: http://old.nabble.com/file/p26268434/At%2BEase%2B10-5-09%2B019.jpg At+Ease+10-5-09+019.jpg http://old.nabble.com/file/p26268434/At%2BEase%2B10-5-09%2B021.jpg At+Ease+10-5-09+021.jpg Picture of bar that fits into the track: http://old.nabble.com/file/p26268434/At%2BEase%2B10-5-09%2B023.jpg At+Ease+10-5-09+023.jpg Picture of lift from above with motor down. If you continue operating the winch (for a millisecond) after the motor is all the way down, the belt won't have any tension on it. Thanks to your help, I pulled the belt to starboard and discovered that it helped center the lift in the track while raising. After further experimentation I think the winch is barely adequate to lift my 135 lb. motor, the track needs to be well-greased (siliconed), and my battery needs to be fully charged. http://old.nabble.com/file/p26268434/At%2BEase%2B10-5-09%2B022.jpg At+Ease+10-5-09+022.jpg Picture of motor mount slightly off-center in track. On Alice's lift, the bar was so off-center that it slipped out of the track and dropped the motor into the water. http://old.nabble.com/file/p26268434/At%2BEase%2B10-5-09%2B020.jpg At+Ease+10-5-09+020.jpg Thanks for your help! Lee 1986 Rhodes22 At Ease Kent Island, MD -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Was-Sunday-sail%3A-Now-electric-motor-lift-tp26101527p26268434.html Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ |
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Re: Now electric motor lift
by Leland
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Rob,
Not sure why the motor lift is on crack. The picture shows the belt to starboard because that's where I pushed it. I think the crack may be caused from the pressure of the belt pushing down and aft. Alice's boat has a similar crack. Lee
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Re: Now electric motor lift
by cowie
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I have the electric lift on my new R22 2009 for a long shaft 8hp Yamaha and so far this first season it has worked great. I typically let it down all the way and then take up the slack. It is powered by my non-house battery and I make sure I don't run anything else from this battery to reserve power when needed. I think this is a link to the winch instructions.
http://www.warn.com/works/dcwinches/1700DC.shtml Christopher P. Cowie 4400 MacArthur Blvd, NW Suite 300 Washington, DC 20007 202.342.2711 202.342.2691 fax 202.270.1470 mobile [ccowie@...] cowieassociates.com -----Original Message----- From: rhodes22-list-bounces@... [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Lowe, Rob Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 11:32 AM To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Now electric motor lift Anyone who has one of these see any problems? Lee, The one photo shows the strap coming out of the stern mounted slot and the slot is cracked. It that because of the install or has the strap slipped to the side and caused that slot to crack? 135 pounds is a lot of motor too, wonder what the rating on that lift is? - rob -----Original Message----- From: rhodes22-list-bounces@... [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Leland Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 10:38 AM To: rhodes22-list@... Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Now electric motor lift Rob, Don't know if these pictures will help much. Not any better at photography than I am at sailing. Pictures of motor lift: http://old.nabble.com/file/p26268434/At%2BEase%2B10-5-09%2B019.jpg At+Ease+10-5-09+019.jpg http://old.nabble.com/file/p26268434/At%2BEase%2B10-5-09%2B021.jpg At+Ease+10-5-09+021.jpg Picture of bar that fits into the track: http://old.nabble.com/file/p26268434/At%2BEase%2B10-5-09%2B023.jpg At+Ease+10-5-09+023.jpg Picture of lift from above with motor down. If you continue operating the winch (for a millisecond) after the motor is all the way down, the belt won't have any tension on it. Thanks to your help, I pulled the belt to starboard and discovered that it helped center the lift in the track while raising. After further experimentation I think the winch is barely adequate to lift my 135 lb. motor, the track needs to be well-greased (siliconed), and my battery needs to be fully charged. http://old.nabble.com/file/p26268434/At%2BEase%2B10-5-09%2B022.jpg At+Ease+10-5-09+022.jpg Picture of motor mount slightly off-center in track. On Alice's lift, the bar was so off-center that it slipped out of the track and dropped the motor into the water. http://old.nabble.com/file/p26268434/At%2BEase%2B10-5-09%2B020.jpg At+Ease+10-5-09+020.jpg Thanks for your help! Lee 1986 Rhodes22 At Ease Kent Island, MD -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Was-Sunday-sail%3A-Now-electric-motor-lift-tp26101527p26268434.html Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.52/2484 - Release Date: 11/09/09 07:39:00 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_4386r.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 93178 bytes Desc: IMG_4386r.jpg Url : http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20091109/9e1cd050/attachment.jpg -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_4384r.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 105392 bytes Desc: IMG_4384r.jpg Url : http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20091109/9e1cd050/attachment-0001.jpg -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IMG_4363r.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 90667 bytes Desc: IMG_4363r.jpg Url : http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20091109/9e1cd050/attachment-0002.jpg __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ |
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Re: Now electric motor lift
by cowie
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I meant to include some photos, let me try again.
<<IMG_4363r.jpg>> <<IMG_4386r.jpg>> <<IMG_4384r.jpg>> Christopher P. Cowie 4400 MacArthur Blvd, NW Suite 300 Washington, DC 20007 202.342.2711 202.342.2691 fax 202.270.1470 mobile [ccowie@...] cowieassociates.com -----Original Message----- From: rhodes22-list-bounces@... [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Chris Cowie Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 12:14 PM To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Now electric motor lift I have the electric lift on my new R22 2009 for a long shaft 8hp Yamaha and so far this first season it has worked great. I typically let it down all the way and then take up the slack. It is powered by my non-house battery and I make sure I don't run anything else from this battery to reserve power when needed. I think this is a link to the winch instructions. http://www.warn.com/works/dcwinches/1700DC.shtml Christopher P. Cowie 4400 MacArthur Blvd, NW Suite 300 Washington, DC 20007 202.342.2711 202.342.2691 fax 202.270.1470 mobile [ccowie@...] cowieassociates.com -----Original Message----- From: rhodes22-list-bounces@... [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Lowe, Rob Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 11:32 AM To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Now electric motor lift Anyone who has one of these see any problems? Lee, The one photo shows the strap coming out of the stern mounted slot and the slot is cracked. It that because of the install or has the strap slipped to the side and caused that slot to crack? 135 pounds is a lot of motor too, wonder what the rating on that lift is? - rob -----Original Message----- From: rhodes22-list-bounces@... [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Leland Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 10:38 AM To: rhodes22-list@... Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Now electric motor lift Rob, Don't know if these pictures will help much. Not any better at photography than I am at sailing. Pictures of motor lift: http://old.nabble.com/file/p26268434/At%2BEase%2B10-5-09%2B019.jpg At+Ease+10-5-09+019.jpg http://old.nabble.com/file/p26268434/At%2BEase%2B10-5-09%2B021.jpg At+Ease+10-5-09+021.jpg Picture of bar that fits into the track: http://old.nabble.com/file/p26268434/At%2BEase%2B10-5-09%2B023.jpg At+Ease+10-5-09+023.jpg Picture of lift from above with motor down. If you continue operating the winch (for a millisecond) after the motor is all the way down, the belt won't have any tension on it. Thanks to your help, I pulled the belt to starboard and discovered that it helped center the lift in the track while raising. After further experimentation I think the winch is barely adequate to lift my 135 lb. motor, the track needs to be well-greased (siliconed), and my battery needs to be fully charged. http://old.nabble.com/file/p26268434/At%2BEase%2B10-5-09%2B022.jpg At+Ease+10-5-09+022.jpg Picture of motor mount slightly off-center in track. On Alice's lift, the bar was so off-center that it slipped out of the track and dropped the motor into the water. http://old.nabble.com/file/p26268434/At%2BEase%2B10-5-09%2B020.jpg At+Ease+10-5-09+020.jpg Thanks for your help! Lee 1986 Rhodes22 At Ease Kent Island, MD -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Was-Sunday-sail%3A-Now-electric-motor-lift-tp26101 527p26268434.html Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ No virus found in this incoming message. 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Re: Now electric motor lift
by Rob Lowe
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The link the Chris posted for the winch says it can lift 1,700 pounds, so I doubt it's the weight of the motor.
Chris, I see your strap appears to have slid towards the center of your boat and is not centered in the slot. Comments? - Rob -----Original Message----- From: rhodes22-list-bounces@... [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Chris Cowie Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 12:21 PM To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Now electric motor lift I meant to include some photos, let me try again. Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Now electric motor lift I have the electric lift on my new R22 2009 for a long shaft 8hp Yamaha and so far this first season it has worked great. I typically let it down all the way and then take up the slack. It is powered by my non-house battery and I make sure I don't run anything else from this battery to reserve power when needed. I think this is a link to the winch instructions. http://www.warn.com/works/dcwinches/1700DC.shtml __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ |
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Re: Now electric motor lift
by Caesarsailor
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Rummy,
48 lbs! What's the horsepower of that motor, and how well does it move Rum Runner? On a lake you don't have current to deal with, but at 48 lbs you are making us with 100 lbs plus motor think we are carrying excess wait and horsepower. Caesar ________________________________ From: "R22RumRunner@..." <R22RumRunner@...> To: rhodes22-list@... Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 10:05:01 AM Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Now electric motor lift Lee, >From the photos I don't see anything that looks unusual. You may have found the answer yourself. An electric winch motor draws a lot of amperage. Your battery needs to be fully charged and fresh for it to provide sufficient power to operate the lift. I don't see that 135 lbs would be to much weight for the lift motor, but then my Tohatsu weighs in at a hefty 48 pounds. Try spraying a little WD40 on the underside of the lift belt. Rummy In a message dated 11/9/2009 10:38:49 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, LKUHN@... writes: http://old.nabble.com/file/p26268434/At%2BEase%2B10-5-09%2B020.jpg __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ |
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Re: Now electric motor lift
by Rick-139
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Chris,
Does your lift tilt your motor when it reaches the top? If so, how? Rick On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Chris Cowie <ccowie@...>wrote: > I meant to include some photos, let me try again. > > > > <<IMG_4363r.jpg>> > > > <<IMG_4386r.jpg>> > <<IMG_4384r.jpg>> > Christopher P. Cowie > > > 4400 MacArthur Blvd, NW > Suite 300 > Washington, DC 20007 > 202.342.2711 > 202.342.2691 fax > 202.270.1470 mobile > > [ccowie@...] > cowieassociates.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: rhodes22-list-bounces@... > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Chris Cowie > Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 12:14 PM > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Now electric motor lift > > I have the electric lift on my new R22 2009 for a long shaft 8hp Yamaha > and so far this first season it has worked great. I typically let it > down all the way and then take up the slack. It is powered by my > non-house battery and I make sure I don't run anything else from this > battery to reserve power when needed. I think this is a link to the > winch instructions. > > http://www.warn.com/works/dcwinches/1700DC.shtml > > > > Christopher P. Cowie > > > 4400 MacArthur Blvd, NW > Suite 300 > Washington, DC 20007 > 202.342.2711 > 202.342.2691 fax > 202.270.1470 mobile > > [ccowie@...] > cowieassociates.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: rhodes22-list-bounces@... > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Lowe, Rob > Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 11:32 AM > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Now electric motor lift > > Anyone who has one of these see any problems? > > Lee, > The one photo shows the strap coming out of the stern mounted slot and > the slot is cracked. It that because of the install or has the strap > slipped to the side and caused that slot to crack? 135 pounds is a lot > of motor too, wonder what the rating on that lift is? - rob > > > -----Original Message----- > From: rhodes22-list-bounces@... > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Leland > Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 10:38 AM > To: rhodes22-list@... > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Now electric motor lift > > > Rob, > > Don't know if these pictures will help much. Not any better at > photography > than I am at sailing. > > Pictures of motor lift: > > http://old.nabble.com/file/p26268434/At%2BEase%2B10-5-09%2B019.jpg > At+Ease+10-5-09+019.jpg > http://old.nabble.com/file/p26268434/At%2BEase%2B10-5-09%2B021.jpg > At+Ease+10-5-09+021.jpg > > Picture of bar that fits into the track: > > http://old.nabble.com/file/p26268434/At%2BEase%2B10-5-09%2B023.jpg > At+Ease+10-5-09+023.jpg > > Picture of lift from above with motor down. If you continue operating > the > winch (for a millisecond) after the motor is all the way down, the belt > won't have any tension on it. Thanks to your help, I pulled the belt to > starboard and discovered that it helped center the lift in the track > while > raising. After further experimentation I think the winch is barely > adequate > to lift my 135 lb. motor, the track needs to be well-greased > (siliconed), > and my battery needs to be fully charged. > > http://old.nabble.com/file/p26268434/At%2BEase%2B10-5-09%2B022.jpg > At+Ease+10-5-09+022.jpg > > Picture of motor mount slightly off-center in track. On Alice's lift, > the > bar was so off-center that it slipped out of the track and dropped the > motor > into the water. > > http://old.nabble.com/file/p26268434/At%2BEase%2B10-5-09%2B020.jpg > At+Ease+10-5-09+020.jpg > > Thanks for your help! > > Lee > 1986 Rhodes22 At Ease > Kent Island, MD > -- > View this message in context: > http://old.nabble.com/Was-Sunday-sail%3A-Now-electric-motor-lift-tp26101 > 527p26268434.html<http://old.nabble.com/Was-Sunday-sail%3A-Now-electric-motor-lift-tp26101%0A527p26268434.html> > Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives > go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives > go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.52/2484 - Release Date: > 11/09/09 07:39:00 > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: IMG_4386r.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 93178 bytes > Desc: IMG_4386r.jpg > Url : > http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20091109/9e1 > cd050/attachment.jpg<http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20091109/9e1%0Acd050/attachment.jpg> > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: IMG_4384r.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 105392 bytes > Desc: IMG_4384r.jpg > Url : > http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20091109/9e1 > cd050/attachment-0001.jpg<http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20091109/9e1%0Acd050/attachment-0001.jpg> > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: IMG_4363r.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 90667 bytes > Desc: IMG_4363r.jpg > Url : > http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20091109/9e1 > cd050/attachment-0002.jpg<http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20091109/9e1%0Acd050/attachment-0002.jpg> > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives > go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.52/2484 - Release Date: > 11/09/09 07:39:00 <<IMG_4363r.jpg>> > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: IMG_4363r.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 90667 bytes > Desc: IMG_4363r.jpg > Url : > http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20091109/b13f7fc3/attachment.jpg > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: IMG_4386r.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 93178 bytes > Desc: IMG_4386r.jpg > Url : > http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20091109/b13f7fc3/attachment-0001.jpg > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: IMG_4384r.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 105392 bytes > Desc: IMG_4384r.jpg > Url : > http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20091109/b13f7fc3/attachment-0002.jpg > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: IMG_4363r.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 90667 bytes > Desc: IMG_4363r.jpg > Url : > http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20091109/b13f7fc3/attachment-0003.jpg > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ |
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Re: Now electric motor lift
by Jeff Kantor
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I have a Nissan (NS 8B) version of that motor, but with electric start, remote, and alternator. Plenty of power, quiet, and light!
Regards, Jeff Kantor c. 917.825.5380 sirius1@... ________________________________ From: "R22RumRunner@..." <R22RumRunner@...> To: rhodes22-list@... Sent: Tue, November 10, 2009 4:40:00 AM Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Now electric motor lift Caesar, The motor is a 8 BHP Tohatsu, 2 stroke without electric start. It's easy to start with just half of a pull. It's slightly louder than a four stroke and burns a little more gas, but I love it. Two thirds throttle will bring the boat to hull speed around 6 mph. I have never been at a lack for power, even in high winds and heavy waves. Rummy In a message dated 11/9/2009 3:48:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, caesarpaul01@... writes: Rummy, 48 lbs! What's the horsepower of that motor, and how well does it move Rum Runner? On a lake you don't have current to deal with, but at 48 lbs you are making us with 100 lbs plus motor think we are carrying excess wait and horsepower. Caesar ________________________________ From: "R22RumRunner@..." <R22RumRunner@...> To: rhodes22-list@... Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 10:05:01 AM Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Now electric motor lift Lee, >From the photos I don't see anything that looks unusual. You may have found the answer yourself. An electric winch motor draws a lot of amperage. Your battery needs to be fully charged and fresh for it to provide sufficient power to operate the lift. I don't see that 135 lbs would be to much weight for the lift motor, but then my Tohatsu weighs in at a hefty 48 pounds. Try spraying a little WD40 on the underside of the lift belt. Rummy In a message dated 11/9/2009 10:38:49 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, LKUHN@... writes: http://old.nabble.com/file/p26268434/At%2BEase%2B10-5-09%2B020.jpg __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ |
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Re: Now electric motor lift
by Caesarsailor
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Thanks Rummy.
For two more horsepower than you, I'm carrying approximately 50 more lbs with electric start. Hmm. My sailing skill and practice presently does not allow me to recognize the difference that extra weight makes. Once the boat is moving because of the wind I'm happy. If and when I start racing however, it may. I hope by the time I"m ready for a new motor, I'm also ready for a much bigger boat. Caesar Gentle Breeze ________________________________ From: "R22RumRunner@..." <R22RumRunner@...> To: rhodes22-list@... Sent: Tue, November 10, 2009 1:40:00 AM Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Now electric motor lift Caesar, The motor is a 8 BHP Tohatsu, 2 stroke without electric start. It's easy to start with just half of a pull. It's slightly louder than a four stroke and burns a little more gas, but I love it. Two thirds throttle will bring the boat to hull speed around 6 mph. I have never been at a lack for power, even in high winds and heavy waves. Rummy In a message dated 11/9/2009 3:48:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, caesarpaul01@... writes: Rummy, 48 lbs! What's the horsepower of that motor, and how well does it move Rum Runner? On a lake you don't have current to deal with, but at 48 lbs you are making us with 100 lbs plus motor think we are carrying excess wait and horsepower. Caesar ________________________________ From: "R22RumRunner@..." <R22RumRunner@...> To: rhodes22-list@... Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 10:05:01 AM Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Now electric motor lift Lee, >From the photos I don't see anything that looks unusual. You may have found the answer yourself. An electric winch motor draws a lot of amperage. Your battery needs to be fully charged and fresh for it to provide sufficient power to operate the lift. I don't see that 135 lbs would be to much weight for the lift motor, but then my Tohatsu weighs in at a hefty 48 pounds. Try spraying a little WD40 on the underside of the lift belt. Rummy In a message dated 11/9/2009 10:38:49 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, LKUHN@... writes: http://old.nabble.com/file/p26268434/At%2BEase%2B10-5-09%2B020.jpg __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ |
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Re: Now electric motor lift
by stanleyl
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of course now there is the Catalina 25 GB Conversion choice
ss ----- Original Message ----- From: <R22RumRunner@...> To: <rhodes22-list@...> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 11:53 AM Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Now electric motor lift > Caesar, > Beware of the bigger boat envy. I know many people that have been on the > list that made the move to bigger boats. Many came back to the Rhodes and > the > others wish they could. Sail with friends if they have bigger boats, but I > like to single hand whenever possible. Bigger boats require crew and then > you are stuck sailing on their schedules or not sailing at all. That's why > you see many bigger boats that stay tied up at the dock year after year > and never go out. > > Rummy > > > In a message dated 11/10/2009 5:22:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > caesarpaul01@... writes: > > Thanks Rummy. > For two more horsepower than you, I'm carrying approximately 50 more lbs > with electric start. Hmm. > > My sailing skill and practice presently does not allow me to recognize > the > difference that extra weight makes. Once the boat is moving because of > the wind I'm happy. If and when I start racing however, it may. > > I hope by the time I"m ready for a new motor, I'm also ready for a much > bigger boat. > > Caesar > Gentle Breeze > > > > > ________________________________ > From: "R22RumRunner@..." <R22RumRunner@...> > > To: rhodes22-list@... > Sent: Tue, November 10, 2009 1:40:00 AM > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Now electric motor lift > > Caesar, > The motor is a 8 BHP Tohatsu, 2 stroke without electric start. It's easy > to > start with just half of a pull. It's slightly louder than a four stroke > and burns a little more gas, but I love it. Two thirds throttle will > bring > the boat to hull speed around 6 mph. I have never been at a lack for > power, > even in high winds and heavy waves. > > Rummy > > > In a message dated 11/9/2009 3:48:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > caesarpaul01@... writes: > > Rummy, > > 48 lbs! What's the horsepower of that motor, and how well does it move > Rum Runner? On a lake you don't have current to deal with, but at 48 > lbs > you > are making us with 100 lbs plus motor think we are carrying excess wait > and horsepower. > > Caesar > > > > ________________________________ > From: "R22RumRunner@..." <R22RumRunner@...> > To: rhodes22-list@... > Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 10:05:01 AM > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Now electric motor lift > > Lee, >>From the photos I don't see anything that looks unusual. You may have > found > the answer yourself. An electric winch motor draws a lot of amperage. > Your > battery needs to be fully charged and fresh for it to provide sufficient > power to operate the lift. I don't see that 135 lbs would be to much > weight > for the lift motor, but then my Tohatsu weighs in at a hefty 48 pounds. > Try > spraying a little WD40 on the underside of the lift belt. > > Rummy > > > In a message dated 11/9/2009 10:38:49 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > LKUHN@... writes: > > http://old.nabble.com/file/p26268434/At%2BEase%2B10-5-09%2B020.jpg > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives > go > > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives > go > > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ |
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Re: Was lift, Now Big Boat Fever
by Leland
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Caesar,
I definitely agree with Rummy on this one. Bigger boats certainly have advantages over our Rhodes, but the most significant one to me would be overnight comfort and ability for lengthy voyages. It just doesn't seem like many people have the time for cruises that last more than a weekend. Even the retirees down at my marina don't take their yachts out much. Sailing small boats is just so much simpler and so much more fun. I just posted some pictures of Art, Allison, and I sailing that were taken by a friend of mine. While he was photographing us, we were photographing him: At+Ease+10-5-09+003.jpg At+Ease+10-5-09+009.jpg Dan has a Freedom30 and I love his boat. 30' foot is not that big and it is designed for easy singlehandling. Self-tacking jib. It sails well with just the mainsail. Lazy jacks. All lines lead to easy reach of the helm. No stays or shrouds supporting the mast. Yet with all these conveniences it still takes a significant amount of time and energy to uncover the main, untie it, and try to keep the boat pointed into the wind to raise the mainsail. Taking the sail back in and putting it away takes longer. Try reefing a big mainsail in high winds. Sailing his boat singlehanded if far easier than getting it in and out of his slip without help. He can do it but it's a tremendous amount of effort compared to our small boats. It's just as easy to manhandle our boats in and out of slips as it is to motor in and out. Smaller boats than a Rhodes22 are more fun to sail; but then the sailing can wear you out, get you wet, and cause you to spill your beer. Can't have that. As Goldilocks would say, "Ahhh, this boat is just right!" Lee 1986 Rhodes22 At Ease Kent Island, MD |
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Re: Was lift, Now Big Boat Fever
by Rick-139
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Lee,
That boat seems to be missing a critical part--a hammock. Rick On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 2:28 PM, Leland <LKUHN@...> wrote: > > Caesar, > > I definitely agree with Rummy on this one. Bigger boats certainly have > advantages over our Rhodes, but the most significant one to me would be > overnight comfort and ability for lengthy voyages. It just doesn't seem > like many people have the time for cruises that last more than a weekend. > Even the retirees down at my marina don't take their yachts out much. > > Sailing small boats is just so much simpler and so much more fun. > > I just posted some pictures of Art, Allison, and I sailing that were taken > by a friend of mine. While he was photographing us, we were photographing > him: > > http://old.nabble.com/file/p26307105/At%2BEase%2B10-5-09%2B003.jpg > At+Ease+10-5-09+003.jpg > > http://old.nabble.com/file/p26307105/At%2BEase%2B10-5-09%2B009.jpg > At+Ease+10-5-09+009.jpg > > Dan has a Freedom30 and I love his boat. 30' foot is not that big and it > is > designed for easy singlehandling. Self-tacking jib. It sails well with > just the mainsail. Lazy jacks. All lines lead to easy reach of the helm. > No stays or shrouds supporting the mast. Yet with all these conveniences > it > still takes a significant amount of time and energy to uncover the main, > untie it, and try to keep the boat pointed into the wind to raise the > mainsail. Taking the sail back in and putting it away takes longer. Try > reefing a big mainsail in high winds. Sailing his boat singlehanded if far > easier than getting it in and out of his slip without help. He can do it > but it's a tremendous amount of effort compared to our small boats. It's > just as easy to manhandle our boats in and out of slips as it is to motor > in > and out. > > Smaller boats than a Rhodes22 are more fun to sail; but then the sailing > can > wear you out, get you wet, and cause you to spill your beer. Can't have > that. > > As Goldilocks would say, "Ahhh, this boat is just right!" > > Lee > 1986 Rhodes22 At Ease > Kent Island, MD > -- > View this message in context: > http://old.nabble.com/Was-Sunday-sail%3A-Now-electric-motor-lift-tp26101527p26307105.html > Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ |
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Re: Was lift, Now Big Boat Fever
by Leland
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I'll make sure I let him know!
Leland V. Kuhn Materials Management Children's National Medical Center 301.572.3711 Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. -----Original Message----- From: rhodes22-list-bounces@... [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Rick Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 2:33 PM To: The Rhodes 22 Email List Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Was lift, Now Big Boat Fever Lee, That boat seems to be missing a critical part--a hammock. Rick On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 2:28 PM, Leland <LKUHN@...> wrote: > > Caesar, > > I definitely agree with Rummy on this one. Bigger boats certainly have > advantages over our Rhodes, but the most significant one to me would be > overnight comfort and ability for lengthy voyages. It just doesn't seem > like many people have the time for cruises that last more than a weekend. > Even the retirees down at my marina don't take their yachts out much. > > Sailing small boats is just so much simpler and so much more fun. > > I just posted some pictures of Art, Allison, and I sailing that were taken > by a friend of mine. While he was photographing us, we were photographing > him: > > http://old.nabble.com/file/p26307105/At%2BEase%2B10-5-09%2B003.jpg > At+Ease+10-5-09+003.jpg > > http://old.nabble.com/file/p26307105/At%2BEase%2B10-5-09%2B009.jpg > At+Ease+10-5-09+009.jpg > > Dan has a Freedom30 and I love his boat. 30' foot is not that big and it > is > designed for easy singlehandling. Self-tacking jib. It sails well with > just the mainsail. Lazy jacks. All lines lead to easy reach of the helm. > No stays or shrouds supporting the mast. Yet with all these conveniences > it > still takes a significant amount of time and energy to uncover the main, > untie it, and try to keep the boat pointed into the wind to raise the > mainsail. Taking the sail back in and putting it away takes longer. Try > reefing a big mainsail in high winds. Sailing his boat singlehanded if far > easier than getting it in and out of his slip without help. He can do it > but it's a tremendous amount of effort compared to our small boats. It's > just as easy to manhandle our boats in and out of slips as it is to motor > in > and out. > > Smaller boats than a Rhodes22 are more fun to sail; but then the sailing > can > wear you out, get you wet, and cause you to spill your beer. Can't have > that. > > As Goldilocks would say, "Ahhh, this boat is just right!" > > Lee > 1986 Rhodes22 At Ease > Kent Island, MD > -- > View this message in context: > 527p26307105.html > Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ |
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Re: Now electric motor lift
by Caesarsailor
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Stan, Rummy,
What does one who is dreaming, and desiring to sail to the Caribbean and other exotic far away places do? Caesar ________________________________ From: stan <stan@...> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list@...> Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 9:03:16 AM Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Now electric motor lift of course now there is the Catalina 25 GB Conversion choice ss ----- Original Message ----- From: <R22RumRunner@...> To: <rhodes22-list@...> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 11:53 AM Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Now electric motor lift > Caesar, > Beware of the bigger boat envy. I know many people that have been on the > list that made the move to bigger boats. Many came back to the Rhodes and > the > others wish they could. Sail with friends if they have bigger boats, but I > like to single hand whenever possible. Bigger boats require crew and then > you are stuck sailing on their schedules or not sailing at all. That's why > you see many bigger boats that stay tied up at the dock year after year > and never go out. > > Rummy > > > In a message dated 11/10/2009 5:22:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > caesarpaul01@... writes: > > Thanks Rummy. > For two more horsepower than you, I'm carrying approximately 50 more lbs > with electric start. Hmm. > > My sailing skill and practice presently does not allow me to recognize > the > difference that extra weight makes. Once the boat is moving because of > the wind I'm happy. If and when I start racing however, it may. > > I hope by the time I"m ready for a new motor, I'm also ready for a much > bigger boat. > > Caesar > Gentle Breeze > > > > > ________________________________ > From: "R22RumRunner@..." <R22RumRunner@...> > > To: rhodes22-list@... > Sent: Tue, November 10, 2009 1:40:00 AM > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Now electric motor lift > > Caesar, > The motor is a 8 BHP Tohatsu, 2 stroke without electric start. It's easy > to > start with just half of a pull. It's slightly louder than a four stroke > and burns a little more gas, but I love it. Two thirds throttle will > bring > the boat to hull speed around 6 mph. I have never been at a lack for > power, > even in high winds and heavy waves. > > Rummy > > > In a message dated 11/9/2009 3:48:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > caesarpaul01@... writes: > > Rummy, > > 48 lbs! What's the horsepower of that motor, and how well does it move > Rum Runner? On a lake you don't have current to deal with, but at 48 > lbs > you > are making us with 100 lbs plus motor think we are carrying excess wait > and horsepower. > > Caesar > > > > ________________________________ > From: "R22RumRunner@..." <R22RumRunner@...> > To: rhodes22-list@... > Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 10:05:01 AM > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Now electric motor lift > > Lee, >>From the photos I don't see anything that looks unusual. You may have > found > the answer yourself. An electric winch motor draws a lot of amperage. > Your > battery needs to be fully charged and fresh for it to provide sufficient > power to operate the lift. I don't see that 135 lbs would be to much > weight > for the lift motor, but then my Tohatsu weighs in at a hefty 48 pounds. > Try > spraying a little WD40 on the underside of the lift belt. > > Rummy > > > In a message dated 11/9/2009 10:38:49 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > LKUHN@... writes: > > http://old.nabble.com/file/p26268434/At%2BEase%2B10-5-09%2B020.jpg > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives > go > > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives > go > > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________ |
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