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Webmail seems a bit wrong?Is it me or does the fact that when I send a mail from the webmail
interface a *copy* of the mail arrives in my inbox addressed to me? I would really expect it appear in my sent box, not my inbox as happens when I use a mail client like Thunderbird or the gmail webmail interface for example. After all, I didn't send a mail to me. I sent it to someone else... Cheers Alan -- Alan Lord The Open Learning Centre Web: www.theopenlearningcentre.com _______________________________________________ Reach hundreds of potential candidates - http://jobs.vtiger.com |
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Re: Webmail seems a bit wrong?On 02/10/09 15:09, Alan Lord (News) wrote:
> Is it me or does the fact that when I send a mail from the webmail > interface a *copy* of the mail arrives in my inbox addressed to me? > > I would really expect it appear in my sent box, not my inbox as happens > when I use a mail client like Thunderbird or the gmail webmail interface > for example. > > After all, I didn't send a mail to me. I sent it to someone else... > > Cheers > > Alan Any comments anyone? _______________________________________________ Reach hundreds of potential candidates - http://jobs.vtiger.com |
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Re: Webmail seems a bit wrong?I don't see technically how the system could place a "copy" in your sent folder unless it used that same exact system to "send" the email. Since you are using another server to send the email, the best it can do is CC your system with a copy.
I would have to dig into a bunch of technical specs to see if you could fool the system, but I think that would be a very big no-no. Having a system of record store that it sent a copy of the email when in fact it never did send it, another system did.
Does that make sense? -- Stephen Mack Gerente de Ventas y Marketing Escuela Fronteras www.eFronteras.com skype: eFronteras.Stephen Member of NAFSA & AmCham On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 7:54 AM, Alan Lord (News) <alanslists@...> wrote:
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Re: Webmail seems a bit wrong?
Yes. That makes a lot of sense.
Joe TSolucio Stephen Mack escribió: I don't see technically how the system could place a "copy" in your sent folder unless it used that same exact system to "send" the email. Since you are using another server to send the email, the best it can do is CC your system with a copy. _______________________________________________ Reach hundreds of potential candidates - http://jobs.vtiger.com |
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Re: Webmail seems a bit wrong?On 11/10/09 12:51, Stephen Mack wrote:
> I don't see technically how the system could place a "copy" in your sent > folder unless it used that same exact system to "send" the email. Since > you are using another server to send the email, the best it can do is CC > your system with a copy. Well it is using the "same system". When I use Thunderbird, it talks to my MUA server using IMAP (Dovecot) and our MTA using SMTP. If I use a different computer (like my netbook when I am on the road, over a 3G network) with TB or Evolution for example exactly the same thing happens. Sent mails go in my sent folder with the correct "to" address. When I configure the vtiger webmail interface it also uses IMAP to talk to the MUA and SMTP for the MTA. All folders on my IMAP MUA are stored on the server so each and any client I use remain synchronised. Unless I'm missing something here, I can't see any difference between a desktop application using IMAP/SMTP and a web client using IMAP/SMTP. In fact I have set up a webmail system using the Horde before, and that wrote sent emails to the right place. Alan > > I would have to dig into a bunch of technical specs to see if you could > fool the system, but I think that would be a very big no-no. Having a > system of record store that it sent a copy of the email when in fact it > never did send it, another system did. > > Does that make sense? > > -- Stephen Mack > Gerente de Ventas y Marketing > Escuela Fronteras > www.eFronteras.com <http://www.eFronteras.com> > skype: eFronteras.Stephen > Member of NAFSA & AmCham > > > On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 7:54 AM, Alan Lord (News) > <alanslists@... > <mailto:alanslists@...>> wrote: > > On 02/10/09 15:09, Alan Lord (News) wrote: > > Is it me or does the fact that when I send a mail from the webmail > > interface a *copy* of the mail arrives in my inbox addressed to me? > > > > I would really expect it appear in my sent box, not my inbox as > happens > > when I use a mail client like Thunderbird or the gmail webmail > interface > > for example. > > > > After all, I didn't send a mail to me. I sent it to someone else... > > > > Cheers > > > > Alan > > Any comments anyone? > > _______________________________________________ > Reach hundreds of potential candidates - http://jobs.vtiger.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Reach hundreds of potential candidates - http://jobs.vtiger.com _______________________________________________ Reach hundreds of potential candidates - http://jobs.vtiger.com |
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Re: Webmail seems a bit wrong?Alan,
Maybe you should open a Trac ticket about this ? David V. 2009/10/12 Alan Lord (News) <alanslists@...>
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Re: Webmail seems a bit wrong?And (even better) try to provide a patch if you can.
David V. 2009/10/14 David V. <davidv.net@gmail.com> Alan, _______________________________________________ Reach hundreds of potential candidates - http://jobs.vtiger.com |
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Re: Webmail seems a bit wrong?On 14/10/09 18:54, David V. wrote:
> And (even better) try to provide a patch if you can. > > David V. > > > 2009/10/14 David V. <davidv.net <http://davidv.net>@gmail.com > <http://gmail.com>> > > Alan, > > Maybe you should open a Trac ticket about this ? > I wanted some confirmation that I wasn't being completely stupid before I did that. I'm still not convinced, but when I think about webmail systems like the horde it does do what I would expect, i.e. copy your mail to a sent folder rather than sending a copy "to" me. The other problem I noticed with the sending-a-copy solution is that you can't actually see the original recipient's email address in the copy you receive. Both the "from" and "to" fields contain my email address. Is this something others can confirm or maybe it is my configuration that is at fault? I think a major factor is that there is only one SMTP account. I think that, for this to work properly, vtiger needs separate SMTP configuration details for each user in the same way as for the IMAP/POP retrieval. Cheers Al _______________________________________________ Reach hundreds of potential candidates - http://jobs.vtiger.com |
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