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Website Gets Your FBI Dossier

by Michael Ravnitzky :: Rate this Message:

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Website Gets Your FBI Dossier

Privacy advocates have last week established a noncommercial website that allows visitors to request their FBI Files, as well as files from several other agencies.

It is

http://www.GetMyFBIfile.com

Michael Ravnitzky
mikerav@...

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Re: Website Gets Your FBI Dossier

by Bryar Family :: Rate this Message:

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This site seems to be down at the moment.
Are you sure it's legit?

-----Original Message-----
From: Law & Policy of Computer Communications
[mailto:CYBERIA-L@...] On Behalf Of Michael Ravnitzky
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 3:57 PM
To: CYBERIA-L@...
Subject: [CYBERIA] Website Gets Your FBI Dossier

Website Gets Your FBI Dossier

Privacy advocates have last week established a noncommercial website that
allows visitors to request their FBI Files, as well as files from several
other agencies.

It is

http://www.GetMyFBIfile.com

Michael Ravnitzky
mikerav@...

Michael Ravnitzky


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Re: Website Gets Your FBI Dossier

by Michael Ravnitzky :: Rate this Message:

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The site is back up again.  It is completely legitimate - and no information is stored.  Cynics can print out the form letters without putting in any information whatsoever and use them by filling them in manually.

Thank you for your forebearance.

Michael Ravnitzky


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From: Bryar Family <bryar@...>
Date: 2007/10/26 Fri PM 03:53:18 CDT
To: CYBERIA-L@...
Subject: Re: [CYBERIA] Website Gets Your FBI Dossier

This site seems to be down at the moment.
Are you sure it's legit?

-----Original Message-----
From: Law & Policy of Computer Communications
[mailto:CYBERIA-L@...] On Behalf Of Michael Ravnitzky
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 3:57 PM
To: CYBERIA-L@...
Subject: [CYBERIA] Website Gets Your FBI Dossier

Website Gets Your FBI Dossier

Privacy advocates have last week established a noncommercial website that
allows visitors to request their FBI Files, as well as files from several
other agencies.

It is

http://www.GetMyFBIfile.com

Michael Ravnitzky
mikerav@...

Michael Ravnitzky


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Re: Website Gets Your FBI Dossier

by Warren E. Agin :: Rate this Message:

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All it does is generate FOI language for you to cut and paste into your own letters. You can leave sensitive info blank if you want, and fill it in later.

-Warren Agin
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  This site seems to be down at the moment.
  Are you sure it's legit?

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Law & Policy of Computer Communications
  [mailto:CYBERIA-L@...] On Behalf Of Michael Ravnitzky
  Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 3:57 PM
  To: CYBERIA-L@...
  Subject: [CYBERIA] Website Gets Your FBI Dossier

  Website Gets Your FBI Dossier

  Privacy advocates have last week established a noncommercial website that
  allows visitors to request their FBI Files, as well as files from several
  other agencies.

  It is

  http://www.GetMyFBIfile.com

  Michael Ravnitzky
  mikerav@...

  Michael Ravnitzky


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Re: Website Gets Your FBI Dossier

by Sean Donelan :: Rate this Message:

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Or you can just print out the FBI's own form

http://foia.fbi.gov/filelink.html?file=privacy_request.pdf

and skip the paranoia.


On Fri, 26 Oct 2007, Warren E. Agin wrote:

> All it does is generate FOI language for you to cut and paste into your own letters. You can leave sensitive info blank if you want, and fill it in later.
>
> -Warren Agin
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Bryar Family
>  To: CYBERIA-L@...
>  Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 4:53 PM
>  Subject: Re: Website Gets Your FBI Dossier
>
>
>  This site seems to be down at the moment.
>  Are you sure it's legit?
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: Law & Policy of Computer Communications
>  [mailto:CYBERIA-L@...] On Behalf Of Michael Ravnitzky
>  Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 3:57 PM
>  To: CYBERIA-L@...
>  Subject: [CYBERIA] Website Gets Your FBI Dossier
>
>  Website Gets Your FBI Dossier
>
>  Privacy advocates have last week established a noncommercial website that
>  allows visitors to request their FBI Files, as well as files from several
>  other agencies.
>
>  It is
>
>  http://www.GetMyFBIfile.com
>
>  Michael Ravnitzky
>  mikerav@...
>
>  Michael Ravnitzky
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Re: Website Gets Your FBI Dossier

by Michael Ravnitzky :: Rate this Message:

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I hate to intrude again, but the FBI's own website letter deliberately
generates only a rather cursory and insubstantial search.  It does not
search for Field Office records, nor to search for older records in the
general/manual indices.

The Getmyfbifile.com site also allows you to request files from certain
other federal agencies as well.

Michael Ravnitzky



Michael Ravnitzky

> Or you can just print out the FBI's own form
>
> http://foia.fbi.gov/filelink.html?file=privacy_request.pdf
>
> and skip the paranoia.
>
>
> On Fri, 26 Oct 2007, Warren E. Agin wrote:
>
>> All it does is generate FOI language for you to cut and paste into your own
>> letters. You can leave sensitive info blank if you want, and fill it in
>> later.
>>
>> -Warren Agin
>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>  From: Bryar Family
>>  To: CYBERIA-L@...
>>  Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 4:53 PM
>>  Subject: Re: Website Gets Your FBI Dossier
>>
>>
>>  This site seems to be down at the moment.
>>  Are you sure it's legit?
>>
>>  -----Original Message-----
>>  From: Law & Policy of Computer Communications
>>  [mailto:CYBERIA-L@...] On Behalf Of Michael Ravnitzky
>>  Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 3:57 PM
>>  To: CYBERIA-L@...
>>  Subject: [CYBERIA] Website Gets Your FBI Dossier
>>
>>  Website Gets Your FBI Dossier
>>
>>  Privacy advocates have last week established a noncommercial website that
>>  allows visitors to request their FBI Files, as well as files from several
>>  other agencies.
>>
>>  It is
>>
>>  http://www.GetMyFBIfile.com
>>
>>  Michael Ravnitzky
>>  mikerav@...
>>
>>  Michael Ravnitzky
>>
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Re: Website Gets Your FBI Dossier

by John Young-7 :: Rate this Message:

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Requests for files from the government become part of the dossiers.
Well beyond the old disarming joke about it.

FOIA requests are used to spread disinformation of highly selective
releases -- comparable to radioisotope tracing.

Little credible information is available through such means.
Agencies gather information under guise of reluctantly providing it.
And the more secret the agency the more assurance misleading
information will be given to the public to track what use is made
of it.

Anything useful to outsiders is exempted, or most often simply
denied existence -- lawsuits to force release are charades.

Hiding government information should be a high crime and
misdemeanor but FOIA procedures have become the favorite
tool of government worldwide to misinform -- truthiness, or more
correctly, official lying, way beyond dissimulation.

Not a single government web site or FOIA office tells the truth.
What they gather are data to support budget requests for
increased secrecy.


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Re: Website Gets Your FBI Dossier

by Carol Shepherd :: Rate this Message:

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I have not been able to get this site to resolve either, and I have
tried three separate times.

Michael Ravnitzky wrote:

> Website Gets Your FBI Dossier
>
> Privacy advocates have last week established a noncommercial website that allows visitors to request their FBI Files, as well as files from several other agencies.
>
> It is
>
> http://www.GetMyFBIfile.com
>
> Michael Ravnitzky
> mikerav@...
>
> Michael Ravnitzky
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Re: Website Gets Your FBI Dossier

by Kevin T. Neely :: Rate this Message:

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On Sat, 2007-10-27 at 14:50 -0400, Carol Shepherd wrote:
> I have not been able to get this site to resolve either, and I have
> tried three separate times.
>

> > It is
> >
> > http://www.GetMyFBIfile.com
> >

I hit the link yesterday and again just now.  I have Bellsouth DSL.

An nslookup gives the following:
Non-authoritative answer:
Name:   getmyfbifile.com
Address: 66.117.159.5


So, unless I have been lucky and you have been incredibly unlucky, I'd
say the site is blocked for you.

K


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Re: Website Gets Your FBI Dossier

by Carol Shepherd :: Rate this Message:

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Finally worked for me around 3pm.

Carol Shepherd wrote:

> I have not been able to get this site to resolve either, and I have
> tried three separate times.
>
> Michael Ravnitzky wrote:
>> Website Gets Your FBI Dossier
>>
>> Privacy advocates have last week established a noncommercial website
>> that allows visitors to request their FBI Files, as well as files from
>> several other agencies.
>>
>> It is
>> http://www.GetMyFBIfile.com
>>
>> Michael Ravnitzky
>> mikerav@...
>>
>> Michael Ravnitzky
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Re: Website Gets Your FBI Dossier

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On Oct 27, 2007, at 3:18 PM, Kevin T. Neely wrote:

> On Sat, 2007-10-27 at 14:50 -0400, Carol Shepherd wrote:
>> I have not been able to get this site to resolve either, and I have
>> tried three separate times.
>>
>
>>> It is
>>>
>>> http://www.GetMyFBIfile.com
>>>
>
> I hit the link yesterday and again just now.  I have Bellsouth DSL.
>
> An nslookup gives the following:
> Non-authoritative answer:
> Name:   getmyfbifile.com
> Address: 66.117.159.5
>
>
> So, unless I have been lucky and you have been incredibly unlucky, I'd
> say the site is blocked for you.


I've been alive forever, and I wrote the very first songs.

I put the words and the melodies together, which means the Fumbling  
Bumblers and other TLAs surely have files on me.

A good bit before I hit puberty, I wrote a letter to "Embassy, Union  
of Soviet Socialist Republics, Washington, DC".

I don't remember what I asked them, but I do remember that they  
answered.

The likelihood that I do not have a file with a TLA is somewhat akin  
to the likelihood that Ernie Fletcher will be re-elected as Governor  
of Kentucky - which is somewhat akin to the likelihood that Yours  
Truly will be the next Roman Catholic Pope *and* the next Dalai Lama  
*and* the next Bop of the She-Bop a Lou-Bop AND the Duke of Earl.

Do I need to say that that ain't the way to bet?

One of these days, I'm gonna get around to sending an FOIA.

As the inimitable JYA has noted, if there's anything interesting in  
there, they won't release it.

But I'm gonna ask, anyway - just to see what they reply.


My Original Writing blog: http://itgotworse.livedigital.com


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