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Our website currently gives a lot of prominence to Selenium Core; I'd like
to avoid doing that.

1) At a minimum, Selenium IDE should be at the top.  [Ideally the
screenshot would not be in Japanese ;-)] Selenium IDE should be the first
way users are exposed to Selenium; it's what gets them hooked.

2) This may be controversial, but I think Selenium RC and Grid should be
highlighted above Selenium Core.

Selenium Core has security issues you need to carefully circumnavigate
that result in somewhat confusing errors; you get fewer such issues when
you run your tests with Selenium RC, even if you write your tests in HTML
Selenese (because Selenium RC can run those tests directly on IE & Safari
from the command line).

Selenium Core is best left to developers who know how to hack it into
their webapps.  It should NOT be your first experience trying to run your
tests outside of the IDE, IMO.

-Dan

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by Paul Hammant-3 :: Rate this Message:

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ok

On Mar 11, 2008, at 8:48 PM, Dan Fabulich wrote:

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> Our website currently gives a lot of prominence to Selenium Core;  
> I'd like to avoid doing that.
>
> 1) At a minimum, Selenium IDE should be at the top.  [Ideally the  
> screenshot would not be in Japanese ;-)] Selenium IDE should be the  
> first way users are exposed to Selenium; it's what gets them hooked.
>
> 2) This may be controversial, but I think Selenium RC and Grid  
> should be highlighted above Selenium Core.
>
> Selenium Core has security issues you need to carefully  
> circumnavigate that result in somewhat confusing errors; you get  
> fewer such issues when you run your tests with Selenium RC, even if  
> you write your tests in HTML Selenese (because Selenium RC can run  
> those tests directly on IE & Safari from the command line).
>
> Selenium Core is best left to developers who know how to hack it  
> into their webapps.  It should NOT be your first experience trying  
> to run your tests outside of the IDE, IMO.
>
> -Dan
>
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by Shinya Kasatani :: Rate this Message:

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>  1) At a minimum, Selenium IDE should be at the top.  [Ideally the
>  screenshot would not be in Japanese ;-)]

Oh sorry, I didn't notice the bookmark toolbar when I captured it :)
I'll replace the image later.

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+1

It makes a lot of sense and will go a long way in helping users understand quickly what Selenium can do for them, as well as where to start.

Philippe Hanrigou
ThoughtWorks
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We have some broken links on the demo page:

http://selenium.openqa.org/demos.html

Specifically - all the demos are busted!
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by Paul Hammant-3 :: Rate this Message:

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refer my (unanswered) March 9 email :-)

On Mar 18, 2008, at 6:12 AM, Patrick Lightbody wrote:

> We have some broken links on the demo page:
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> http://selenium.openqa.org/demos.html
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> Specifically - all the demos are busted!
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Paul,
I looked at the email, but I didn't see anything related to the broken links. What am I supposed to be seeing?
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by Paul Hammant-3 :: Rate this Message:

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> The three demos linked to from http://selenium.openqa.org/demos.html  need a version of Selenium-Core up on the site.
> Yet it was not there in the previous version.  Did we take it down?  Was there something wrong with hosting selenium core on a static site?
> When was the last time we ran these demos against core?  Will then work with the latest version. I guess trying it out is the only way.

I am saying here that I note that the demos do not work because of a missing Selenium-Core in the website. I'm suggesting that it was not present in the previous website either (www.openqa.org/selenium/) before the creation of the child domains of .openqa.org.
I'm then asking was that deliberate for some reason, and any historical information that people have.
I'm lastly in that March 9th email, asking for help to put it back again.
You're right though <grin/> I did not say a link was broken.
- Paul
On Mar 19, 2008, at 9:19 PM, Patrick Lightbody wrote:
Paul,
I looked at the email, but I didn't see anything related to the broken links. What am I supposed to be seeing?
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I don't know why it would have been taken down. Perhaps you can glean something from FishEye at http://svn.openqa.org. As for getting it back in, can't you just check in a copy of Selenium Core? I don't have the time to do it myself (I'm in the middle of getting the forums updated), but maybe someone else can if you don't have the time.
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