Where to propose changes in a .desc file ?

[Thomas Schmitt]

Hi,

is this the right place to propose changes
in the T2 description of libburn ?

http://www.t2-project.org/packages/libburn.html 
http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/trunk/package/filesystem/libburn/libburn.desc

Have a nice day :)

Thomas


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[Rene Rebe]

Hi,

On 09.05.2009, at 21:33, Thomas Schmitt wrote:

> Hi,
>
> is this the right place to propose changes
> in the T2 description of libburn ?
>
> http://www.t2-project.org/packages/libburn.html
> http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/trunk/package/filesystem/libburn/libburn.desc

Yes, sure. Feel free to propose.

> Have a nice day :)

U2

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[Thomas Schmitt]

Hi,

> > http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/trunk/package/filesystem/libburn/libburn.desc
> Yes, sure. Feel free to propose.

I did not flatly post a patch because i am
unsure about your policies with .desc info.

libburn.desc describes the software at
http://icculus.org/burn/

[I] An open-source library for reading, mastering and writing optical discs
[T] Libburn is an open-source library for reading, mastering and writing
    optical discs.
[A] Dana Jansens
[A] Derek Foreman

That one has shown no progress since mid 2006.
The last released version is 0.2.

T2 is actually offering the software component
libburn from http://libburnia-project.org/ 

[U] http://libburnia-project.org/
[V] 0.6.6.pl00

That's the current version where i am the main
developer since august 2006.
It inherited the capabilities of icculus-libburn
and extended them to CD TAO, DVD, and BD media.
(Taking a bow towards Andy Polyakov's growisofs.)


--------------------------------------------------
Proposal:

[I] A burn library for CD, DVD, BD and a cdrecord emulator.
[T] Libburn is an open-source library by which preformatted data
    get onto optical media: CD, DVD, BD (Blu-Ray). It comes with
    a cdrecord compatible command line application named cdrskin.
[A] Mario Danic
[A] Thomas Schmitt

Whether to keep
[A] Dana Jansens
[A] Derek Foreman
depends on whether the founders of a project shall
stay named as authors even if overthrown by a fork
some years ago.
They are still undisputed participants in the
copyright of libburn.

What does "Status Beta" mean exactly ?
libburn is intended for production systems.
Not that there would be no bugs to be expected,
but it gets constantly tested by doing backups
with checkreading.

--------------------------------------------------
Further proposal:

T2 already covers libisofs from libburnia-project.org.
We have a third component, libisoburn, which i cannot
find yet in T2. It would be worth, though:

[I] A library and an application for multi-session ISO 9660 filesystems.
[T] Libisoburn coordinates libburn and libisofs to enable
    creation and manipulation of ISO-9660 filesystems on
    CD, DVD, BD, in disk files, or into pipes. It comes
    with a command line application named xorriso, which goes
    quite beyond the limitations of mkisofs.
[U] http://libburnia-project.org/
[A] Vreixo Formoso
[A] Thomas Schmitt
[C] extra/filesystem

[L] GPL
[V] 0.3.8.pl00
[D] ?????????? libisoburn-0.3.8.pl00.tar.gz http://files.libburnia-project.org/releases/

Dependencies on Linux:
  libc, libpthread, libburn, libisofs
Optional dependencies on Linux:
  readline-devel, libreadline, libacl-devel, libacl, zlib-devel, zlib

--------------------------------------------------

Have a nice day :)

Thomas


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[Rene Rebe]

Hi,

I'll update the meta info, and also add the new package (probably  
today).

For us stable means rock solid, API stable. For classic U*ix like  
packages,
this usually means when they have no 0 as major version number
component :-)

Regards,
   René

On 11.05.2009, at 17:34, Thomas Schmitt wrote:

> Hi,
>
>>> http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/trunk/package/filesystem/libburn/libburn.desc
>> Yes, sure. Feel free to propose.
>
> I did not flatly post a patch because i am
> unsure about your policies with .desc info.
>
> libburn.desc describes the software at
> http://icculus.org/burn/
>
> [I] An open-source library for reading, mastering and writing  
> optical discs
> [T] Libburn is an open-source library for reading, mastering and  
> writing
>    optical discs.
> [A] Dana Jansens
> [A] Derek Foreman
>
> That one has shown no progress since mid 2006.
> The last released version is 0.2.
>
> T2 is actually offering the software component
> libburn from http://libburnia-project.org/
>
> [U] http://libburnia-project.org/
> [V] 0.6.6.pl00
>
> That's the current version where i am the main
> developer since august 2006.
> It inherited the capabilities of icculus-libburn
> and extended them to CD TAO, DVD, and BD media.
> (Taking a bow towards Andy Polyakov's growisofs.)
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> Proposal:
>
> [I] A burn library for CD, DVD, BD and a cdrecord emulator.
> [T] Libburn is an open-source library by which preformatted data
>    get onto optical media: CD, DVD, BD (Blu-Ray). It comes with
>    a cdrecord compatible command line application named cdrskin.
> [A] Mario Danic
> [A] Thomas Schmitt
>
> Whether to keep
> [A] Dana Jansens
> [A] Derek Foreman
> depends on whether the founders of a project shall
> stay named as authors even if overthrown by a fork
> some years ago.
> They are still undisputed participants in the
> copyright of libburn.
>
> What does "Status Beta" mean exactly ?
> libburn is intended for production systems.
> Not that there would be no bugs to be expected,
> but it gets constantly tested by doing backups
> with checkreading.
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> Further proposal:
>
> T2 already covers libisofs from libburnia-project.org.
> We have a third component, libisoburn, which i cannot
> find yet in T2. It would be worth, though:
>
> [I] A library and an application for multi-session ISO 9660  
> filesystems.
> [T] Libisoburn coordinates libburn and libisofs to enable
>    creation and manipulation of ISO-9660 filesystems on
>    CD, DVD, BD, in disk files, or into pipes. It comes
>    with a command line application named xorriso, which goes
>    quite beyond the limitations of mkisofs.
> [U] http://libburnia-project.org/
> [A] Vreixo Formoso
> [A] Thomas Schmitt
> [C] extra/filesystem
>
> [L] GPL
> [V] 0.3.8.pl00
> [D] ?????????? libisoburn-0.3.8.pl00.tar.gz http://files.libburnia-project.org/releases/
>
> Dependencies on Linux:
>  libc, libpthread, libburn, libisofs
> Optional dependencies on Linux:
>  readline-devel, libreadline, libacl-devel, libacl, zlib-devel, zlib
>
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> Have a nice day :)
>
> Thomas
>
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[Thomas Schmitt]

Hi,

> I'll update the meta info, and also add the new package (probably today).

Thanks for having us. :)


> For us stable means rock solid, API stable.

Looking at similar T2 packages, i deem xorriso
more solid than genisoimage of cdrkit (resp
 mkisofs). I deem xorriso and cdrskin more solid
than wodim of cdrkit (and more solid than
cdrecord if for DVD and BD media). Only growisofs
from dvd+rwtools has my full admiration for what
it does.


Our library APIs are kept compatible for a
stable .so number since march 2007. I.e. if you
link dynamically an older application with a
newer library, then it will work with all bug
fixes and inner enhancements.

The APIs are evolving, though. New calls get
added, reserved parameter values get assigned
a meaning, ...
Therefore, after startup, an application has to
inquire the library revision and compare it with
the revision that was seen at compile time.
Newer dynamic libraries are ok, older ones are
a reason to refuse application start.

(The revison numbering of libtool would suffice to
 express compatibility ranges. But Linux .so
 numbering does not reflect that. FreeBSD is even
 more restricted.
 pkg-config can check dependencies at install time
 but does not provide safety at compile time and
 at run time.)


So for our applications i would claim "Stable".
For the libraries too, if our commitment to
future .so compatibility suffices.


>  For classic U*ix like packages,
> this usually means when they have no 0 as major version number
> component :-)

The 0 expresses the fact that we are still exploring
the possibilities of our project topic. Many things
remain to do.
But indeed, our project should start a discussion
whether we shall bump up revisions for a better
public impression.


Have a nice day :)

Thomas


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[Rene Rebe]

Hi,

Thomas Schmitt wrote:

>> For us stable means rock solid, API stable.
>
> Looking at similar T2 packages, i deem xorriso
> more solid than genisoimage of cdrkit (resp
>  mkisofs). I deem xorriso and cdrskin more solid
> than wodim of cdrkit (and more solid than
> cdrecord if for DVD and BD media). Only growisofs
> from dvd+rwtools has my full admiration for what
> it does.

Yes, other Status tags might contain some random
human entropy, likewise ...

I changed the Status tag of your packages to Gamma,
and addad libisoburn :-)

Committed revision 33173.
Committed revision 33174.
Committed revision 33175.

The web view will probably take an hour to get the updates
(from the SVN tree).

If you have any other suggestion please let us know.

René

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[Thomas Schmitt]

Hi,

> If you have any other suggestion please let us know.

Currently the T2 packages around libburnia
appear complete and up to date.

So i can only invite everybody to bother us with
problems around CD, DVD, BD drives and around
ISO 9660 filesystems. E.g. via mailing list
  libburn-hackers@...
We are open for learning from problems with
other open source tools, too.

But we are not (yet) qualified for UDF filesystems
or for file contents which need to be prepared
for DVD video players. Not to speak of the 100+
content formats for Blu-Ray video.


Have a nice day :)

Thomas


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