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Which VM?
by Stan-18
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I am planing n rebuilding my laptop now that 9.10 is out. I want to be able to run Ubuntu, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, and perhaps XP as guest OS'es on this machine. I tried this a month or so ago with VirtualBox, and some of these OS'es did not work under it. I understand that the one Linus is favoring is Xen. What's the collective wisdom of the list on this? Which VM should I use? -- One of the main causes of the fall of the roman empire was that, lacking zero, they had no way to indicate successful termination of their C programs. -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users@... Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users |
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Re: Which VM?
by Raseel Bhagat
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On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 10:01 PM, stan <stanb@...> wrote:
I've been using VirtualBox for quite some time now. Except for OpenBSD, which I have never tried, all other OSes you mentioned run pretty fine on it. Is is confirmed that OpenBSD runs properly on Xen ? Thanks, Raseel -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users@... Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users |
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Re: Which VM?
by Mihamina Rakotomandimby-6
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10/31/2009 07:31 PM, stan:
> What's the collective wisdom of the list on this? Which VM should I use? Ubuntu's Official choice is KVM: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM -- Architecte Informatique chez Blueline/Gulfsat: Administration Systeme, Recherche & Developpement +261 33 11 207 36 -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users@... Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users |
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Re: Which VM?
by Stan-18
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On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 08:49:59PM +0300, Rakotomandimby Mihamina wrote:
> 10/31/2009 07:31 PM, stan: > > What's the collective wisdom of the list on this? Which VM should I use? > > Ubuntu's Official choice is KVM: > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM OK, that makes it a canidate. Anyone know if FreeBSD, and OpenBSD work with this? I see from the referenced web page that XP does. -- One of the main causes of the fall of the roman empire was that, lacking zero, they had no way to indicate successful termination of their C programs. -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users@... Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users |
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Re: Which VM?
by Zoolook-3
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On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 3:11 PM, stan <stanb@...> wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 08:49:59PM +0300, Rakotomandimby Mihamina wrote: >> 10/31/2009 07:31 PM, stan: >> > What's the collective wisdom of the list on this? Which VM should I use? >> >> Ubuntu's Official choice is KVM: >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM > > OK, that makes it a canidate. > > Anyone know if FreeBSD, and OpenBSD work with this? I see from > the referenced web page that XP does. I know FBSD does. I haven't tried OBSD but it should work without problems. -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users@... Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users |
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Re: Which VM?
by NoOp-4
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On 10/31/2009 10:49 AM, Rakotomandimby Mihamina wrote:
> 10/31/2009 07:31 PM, stan: >> What's the collective wisdom of the list on this? Which VM should I use? > > Ubuntu's Official choice is KVM: > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM > > You do realize of course that your hardware must be able to support KVM... right? http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Main_Page <quote> KVM (for Kernel-based Virtual Machine) is a full virtualization solution for Linux on x86 hardware containing virtualization extensions (Intel VT or AMD-V). </quote> Don't waste your time if your hardware won't support it: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Installation [How to check if your CPU supports hardware virtualisation] My vote is for VirtualBox (PEUL version). -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users@... Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users |
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Re: Which VM?
by Joep L. Blom
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NoOp wrote:
> On 10/31/2009 10:49 AM, Rakotomandimby Mihamina wrote: >> 10/31/2009 07:31 PM, stan: >>> What's the collective wisdom of the list on this? Which VM should I use? >> Ubuntu's Official choice is KVM: >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM >> >> > > You do realize of course that your hardware must be able to support > KVM... right? > http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Main_Page > <quote> > KVM (for Kernel-based Virtual Machine) is a full virtualization solution > for Linux on x86 hardware containing virtualization extensions (Intel VT > or AMD-V). > </quote> > > Don't waste your time if your hardware won't support it: > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Installation > [How to check if your CPU supports hardware virtualisation] > > My vote is for VirtualBox (PEUL version). > > > OS'es and it works very well and is easy to use. Joep -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users@... Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users |
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Re: Which VM?
by Verde Denim
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On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 7:13 PM, Joep L. Blom <jlblom@...> wrote:
Regards Jack
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Re: Which VM?
by Mihamina Rakotomandimby-6
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10/31/2009 11:04 PM, NoOp:
> Don't waste your time if your hardware won't support it: > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Installation > [How to check if your CPU supports hardware virtualisation] > My vote is for VirtualBox (PEUL version). - OP did not tell what is his CPU - KVM on compliant hardware (most 64bit CPU are) is much faster than VBox. -- Architecte Informatique chez Blueline/Gulfsat: Administration Systeme, Recherche & Developpement +261 33 11 207 36 -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users@... Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users |
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Re: Which VM?
by Rashkae-2
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Rakotomandimby Mihamina wrote:
> 10/31/2009 11:04 PM, NoOp: >> Don't waste your time if your hardware won't support it: >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Installation >> [How to check if your CPU supports hardware virtualisation] >> My vote is for VirtualBox (PEUL version). > > - OP did not tell what is his CPU > - KVM on compliant hardware (most 64bit CPU are) Beware of Intel. I was unpleasantly surprised recently to learn that Intel has chosen to remove the virtualization feature on most of their newer Core 2 Duo models. -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users@... Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users |
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Re: Which VM?
by NoOp-4
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On 11/01/2009 07:56 AM, Verde Denim wrote:
... >> I second with noop and joep. I run virtualbox (PUEL) with Ubuntu, Gentoo, >> XP (64), M$ server 03R2, and BT4. All are running merrily along... If I >> could find a utility to turn a VBox disc into a vmware disc It'd be a >> perfect world so I wouldn't have to create dev and test scenarios twice (one >> for me and one for work)... >> > > Regards > > Jack VBoxManage? Perhaps this will help: <http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/3773/convert-vdi-to-vmdk-virtualbox-hard-disk-conversion-to-vmware-hard-disk-format> and perhaps: doc - 8.7 VBoxManage export? -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users@... Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users |
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Re: Which VM?
by Mihamina Rakotomandimby-6
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11/01/2009 08:55 PM, Rashkae:
>> - OP did not tell what is his CPU >> - KVM on compliant hardware (most 64bit CPU are) > Beware of Intel. I was unpleasantly surprised recently to learn that > Intel has chosen to remove the virtualization feature on most of their > newer Core 2 Duo models. Thanks for the warning. I try to buy AMD CPUs when I can. (My laptop and my workstation are AMD) -- Architecte Informatique chez Blueline/Gulfsat: Administration Systeme, Recherche & Developpement +261 33 11 207 36 -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users@... Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users |
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Re: Which VM?
by Derek Broughton
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NoOp wrote:
> On 11/01/2009 07:56 AM, Verde Denim wrote: > ... >>> I second with noop and joep. I run virtualbox (PUEL) with Ubuntu, >>> Gentoo, XP (64), M$ server 03R2, and BT4. All are running merrily >>> along... If I could find a utility to turn a VBox disc into a vmware >>> disc It'd be a perfect world so I wouldn't have to create dev and test >>> scenarios twice (one for me and one for work)... >>> > > VBoxManage? > Perhaps this will help: > <http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/3773/convert-vdi-to-vmdk- > and perhaps: doc - 8.7 VBoxManage export? For VirtualBox V3 (possibly some of the most recent V2 releases) it's as simple as File | Export Appliance. Of course, that creates a complete "ovf" appliance, but the vmdk file is right there and usable as-is. -- derek -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users@... Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users |
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Re: Which VM?
by Verde Denim
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On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Derek Broughton <derek@...> wrote:
DOH! Thanks for the input. Didn't mean to hijack the thread... Jack
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Re: Which VM?
by NoOp-4
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On 11/02/2009 07:04 AM, Derek Broughton wrote:
> NoOp wrote: ... >> VBoxManage? >> Perhaps this will help: >> <http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/view/3773/convert-vdi-to-vmdk- > virtualbox-hard-disk-conversion-to-vmware-hard-disk-format> >> and perhaps: doc - 8.7 VBoxManage export? > > For VirtualBox V3 (possibly some of the most recent V2 releases) it's as > simple as File | Export Appliance. Of course, that creates a complete "ovf" > appliance, but the vmdk file is right there and usable as-is. Ah! Thanks, I'd not even bothered to look at the GUI :-) -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users@... Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users |
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Re: Which VM?
by Senthil Kumar M-3
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Intel Pentium 4 supports Virtualization?
On Mon, 2009-11-02 at 10:00 +0300, Rakotomandimby Mihamina wrote: > 11/01/2009 08:55 PM, Rashkae: > >> - OP did not tell what is his CPU > >> - KVM on compliant hardware (most 64bit CPU are) > > Beware of Intel. I was unpleasantly surprised recently to learn that > > Intel has chosen to remove the virtualization feature on most of their > > newer Core 2 Duo models. > > Thanks for the warning. > I try to buy AMD CPUs when I can. > (My laptop and my workstation are AMD) > > -- > Architecte Informatique chez Blueline/Gulfsat: > Administration Systeme, Recherche & Developpement > +261 33 11 207 36 > -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users@... Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users |
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Re: Which VM?
by Mihamina Rakotomandimby-6
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11/03/2009 10:34 AM, ms::
> Intel Pentium 4 supports Virtualization? - Please bottom-post - http://processorfinder.intel.com/ to see the answer -- Architecte Informatique chez Blueline/Gulfsat: Administration Systeme, Recherche & Developpement +261 33 11 207 36 -- ubuntu-users mailing list ubuntu-users@... Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users |
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